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Old 04-19-09, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
It doesn't toally look like Bos' fault.
Only if you believe trying to advance up the peleton with several km/hr against the barricades is a smart move, and that an overtaking rider has no obligation to advance safely.

This is not the track. There is no Sprinter's Lane.
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Old 04-19-09, 06:32 PM
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It's unpossible that anyone can look at that and not see that as Bos dragging that guy down.
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Old 04-19-09, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer Ex
Only if you believe trying to advance up the peleton with several km/hr against the barricades is a smart move, and that an overtaking rider has no obligation to advance safely.
it worked for Djamolidine Abdo.....well, it would have. Actually what you see is the red jersey on the right moving over into Impey's path who then pinches what little room Bos had to begin with. The barriers are not straight at all. They weave back and forth. Bos went from having 3 feet to 6 inches in about 0.00531 seconds. He's almost even with Impey and has a hand on his shoulder; then he either brakes or makes contact with a barrier and begins to fall back. Then he definitely hits a barrier and goes down holding onto Impey. What you see isn't Impey getting thrown forward...it's Bos slowing down because his wheel hits the legs of the barrier. I say he got pinched by the barriers and took Impey down with him. Final answer.


Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
I honestly don't think that even Juan Curuchet could have thrown the yellow jersey forward that fast in a regular Madison-style throw, let alone a shoulder push.
That is the key. NOBODY could have thrown a guy like that.

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Bos had his hand on the yellow jersey's shoulder when he stood up to sprint after bumping into the rider to his right.
He could not have generated that fast a movement/fall from the yellow jersey at arms length. Either:
1) Bos moved Impey into the legs of the barriers which caused the fall (Unlikely because he is still to Bos's right when he begins to fall)
2) Impey moved left and/or fell on his own, Bos merely tried to push him away/stay up
3) Bos hit the leg of barrier with his front wheel (he does bump immediately before the incident), then his hand on Impey is his only lifeline, and he tried to stay up

In either 2 or 3, where Bos did not act aggressively, it is still his fault:
Only if you believe trying to advance up the peleton with several km/hr against the barricades is a smart move, and that an overtaking rider has no obligation to advance safely.
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Old 04-19-09, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RichinPeoria
see post #2
Oh. Well if the UCI says something it has to be the gospel truth. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by gsteinb
It's unpossible that anyone can look at that and not see that as Bos dragging that guy down.
I agree. He definitely took him down with him. Why he did it? I dunno. The way the GC leader gets whipped around, it's obvious Theo had a fistful of jersey.
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Old 04-19-09, 07:18 PM
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Is it all Bos' fault? No.
Is he at least halfway responsible for the incident? I guess he is.

Chalk it up as a racing incident. Worse stuff has happened, and riders have been worse at fault.
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Old 04-19-09, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
Chalk it up as a racing incident. Worse stuff has happened, and riders have been worse at fault.
Wow, you must be a seasoned pro to say that... references?
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Old 04-19-09, 07:36 PM
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Old 04-19-09, 07:56 PM
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thats what happens when you put your back on someones hand
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Impey only flies forward relative to Bos. His forward movement not so dramatic if you look at the rest of the field. Looks more like Bos decelerated quickly (as in, he grabbed a bunch of front brake or something) and Impey fell left into a space that no longer contained a person, which would put both riders at fault.
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I thought it looked pretty clear that bos was trying to push impey forward and away from him to give him more room. probably realizing that he was boxed in and unable to contest the sprint anyhow. unfortunately either impey freaked out, or bos hit the rail or something. Impey was looking pretty squirrelly throughout the sprint leadup, no doubt because his jersey might have been on the line.
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Old 04-19-09, 11:01 PM
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Either the Incredible Hulk was in that bike race, or you guys don't understand physics.

No way in hell could he drag him across his own front wheel at 40mph.
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Old 04-19-09, 11:51 PM
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^^ The guy is no ordinary bike weenie...

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Old 04-19-09, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cedricbosch
^^ The guy is no ordinary bike weenie...

Fail. Thats Sir Chris Hoy.
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Old 04-20-09, 12:14 AM
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heh..."thanks bf"

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Originally Posted by Laggard
The commentator is only human. Phil and Paul would have made the same comments.

In any case, Bos needs to be either banned for life or restricted to events where he can't hurt anyone else. Like time trials or track pursuit.
comparing one bad commentator with two bad commentators does not make you right.
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Old 04-20-09, 02:23 AM
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Bos makes a few comments about the crash.
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
Either the Incredible Hulk was in that bike race, or you guys don't understand physics.

No way in hell could he drag him across his own front wheel at 40mph.
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Old 04-20-09, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by botto
So, he basically said he was at fault and yanked the guy down?
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Originally Posted by gsteinb
So, he basically said he was at fault and yanked the guy down?
something to the effect of" i heard from my brother that people think i pulled impey down. that would be a kamikazee move. i'm not crazy, at that speed and position i'd take myself out. no way.

the rest is him saying that his memory of the crash is a little fuzzy, but that hit the foot of a barrier, which caused the crash.

he also hoped for good tv images so he could see what happened, and that a UCI official said that they didn't see anything wrong with the crash.
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Old 04-20-09, 02:37 AM
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hmmm. My understanding is if you take your hands off the bars and touch another rider you're wrong. I recall Hincapie getting DQed in a sprint once. Looking at the video about 47 times, Bos doesn't seem close enough to the barrier to hit any part of it, but the camera angle and all are really poor to look at it in detail. I'd like to hear what Impey has to say.
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Looks to me like he put his arm out to fend off the yellow jersey, clipped the barrier and then hung on for dear life to try and keep himself upright. Total wanka move IMO. Should get a months ban for being a meathead. WTF was he doing trying to move up along those barriers?

BTW, it looked like the Istanbul AA chapter set up the barricades after having stopped at the boozer on the way.
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Old 04-20-09, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by classic1
Looks to me like he put his arm out to fend off the yellow jersey, clipped the barrier and then hung on for dear life to try and keep himself upright. Total wanka move IMO. Should get a months ban for being a meathead. WTF was he doing trying to move up along those barriers?

BTW, it looked like the Istanbul AA chapter set up the barricades after having stopped at the boozer on the way.
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Old 04-20-09, 04:44 AM
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Also, I ROFLMAO at all the crashes. It was like there were a bunch of Colombians leading out clones of Graeme Brown and René Haselbacher, all of them blindfolded, with a $1,000,000 first prize, while re-enacting Death Race 2000.
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