Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

Crank Arm Bolt Torque Setting

Search
Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

Crank Arm Bolt Torque Setting

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-24-24, 10:35 PM
  #1  
muysal
Urban Cyclist
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 18

Bikes: Guerciotti SLX - 84', Tide-Ace 11sp carbon frame & misc. Shimano parts

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Crank Arm Bolt Torque Setting

I couldn't find any documentation on torque specs for vintage Shimano from the 80's. Do you tighten the crank arm bolt by feel or a specific value?
muysal is offline  
Old 03-26-24, 01:42 PM
  #2  
cb400bill
Forum Moderator
 
cb400bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,650

Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista

Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3091 Post(s)
Liked 6,601 Times in 3,785 Posts
Post moved from Sales thread to its own thread in Mechanics.
__________________












cb400bill is offline  
Old 03-26-24, 03:25 PM
  #3  
Andrew R Stewart 
Senior Member
 
Andrew R Stewart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 18,094

Bikes: Stewart S&S coupled sport tourer, Stewart Sunday light, Stewart Commuting, Stewart Touring, Co Motion Tandem, Stewart 3-Spd, Stewart Track, Fuji Finest, Mongoose Tomac ATB, GT Bravado ATB, JCP Folder, Stewart 650B ATB

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4210 Post(s)
Liked 3,875 Times in 2,315 Posts
That era usually had crank arm retaining bolts torqued to around 30ft/lb. Did you check out the Park torque spec chart? Andy
__________________
AndrewRStewart
Andrew R Stewart is offline  
Old 03-26-24, 03:31 PM
  #4  
FBinNY 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Posts: 38,725

Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter

Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5792 Post(s)
Liked 2,581 Times in 1,431 Posts
Back when those cranks were made, nobody spoke torque spec.

Do it the old fashioned way, tightening until the torque ramps up toward the wall.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site

An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.

Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.

“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN

WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FBinNY is offline  
Likes For FBinNY:
Old 03-26-24, 03:50 PM
  #5  
Bill Kapaun
Really Old Senior Member
 
Bill Kapaun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Mid Willamette Valley, Orygun
Posts: 13,875

Bikes: 87 RockHopper,2008 Specialized Globe. Both upgraded to 9 speeds. 2019 Giant Explore E+3

Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1795 Post(s)
Liked 1,271 Times in 877 Posts
IF you have a torque wrench, 30-35 Ft-Lb.
Else, good & tight.

BTW, the first time I torqued one, it was more force than I expected. Possibly from a more awkward position?
Bill Kapaun is offline  
Old 03-26-24, 06:57 PM
  #6  
dedhed
SE Wis
 
dedhed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 10,516

Bikes: '68 Raleigh Sprite, '02 Raleigh C500, '84 Raleigh Gran Prix, '91 Trek 400, 2013 Novara Randonee, 1990 Trek 970

Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2747 Post(s)
Liked 3,401 Times in 2,058 Posts
By feel. Check tightness again after first ride
dedhed is offline  
Old 03-26-24, 07:39 PM
  #7  
FBinNY 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Posts: 38,725

Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter

Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5792 Post(s)
Liked 2,581 Times in 1,431 Posts
One guide to proper torque is the length of the tool used.

BITD cranks were tightened with the "peanut butter" wrench. This was about 7" long, just clearing the pedal. Tighten with something shy of the max force you can muster.

Last edited by FBinNY; 03-26-24 at 08:22 PM.
FBinNY is offline  
Old 03-27-24, 07:55 AM
  #8  
Iride01 
I'm good to go!
 
Iride01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 14,992

Bikes: Tarmac Disc Comp Di2 - 2020

Mentioned: 51 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6196 Post(s)
Liked 4,810 Times in 3,318 Posts
You couldn't find any documentation? You must not have gone to Shimano's Technical Document Site.

They still have the old SI's that were used back then. All you need to know is the part number. Which you can use the cranks PN which is around the hole for the pedal on the inboard side.

Here is the SI for a early 80's Deore crank FC-M730... https://si.shimano.com/en/pdfs/si/T-...000-00-ENG.pdf

I usually go by feel for all the bolts and nuts on my bike. Very occasionally, I'll double check myself with a torque wrench to see if I'm in the ball park.

Last edited by Iride01; 03-27-24 at 08:01 AM.
Iride01 is offline  
Old 03-27-24, 09:40 AM
  #9  
mpetry912 
aged to perfection
 
mpetry912's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: PacNW
Posts: 1,817

Bikes: Dinucci Allez 2.0, Richard Sachs, Alex Singer, Serotta, Masi GC, Raleigh Pro Mk.1, Hetchins, etc

Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 839 Post(s)
Liked 1,258 Times in 663 Posts
I recommend 260 - 300 in lb.

Less for classic campagnolo. Even less for Stronglight.

/markp
mpetry912 is offline  
Old 03-28-24, 05:41 AM
  #10  
sd5782 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Toledo Ohio
Posts: 1,496

Bikes: 1964 Huffy Sportsman, 1972 Fuji Newest, 1973 Schwinn Super Sport (3), 1982 Trek 412, 1983 Trek 700, 1989 Miyata 1000LT, 1991 Bianchi Boardwalk, plus others

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 583 Post(s)
Liked 699 Times in 394 Posts
Originally Posted by mpetry912
I recommend 260 - 300 in lb.

Less for classic campagnolo. Even less for Stronglight.

/markp
I’m with Mark here or even slightly less. I’ve not done loads, but when my beam type torque wrench starts getting to 250 inch/lbs it just seems tight. Things almost feel like the aluminum is going to split going more. I used to just torque pretty darn tight with a 1/2” socket wrench. Putting on the torque wrench was a surprise as I needed a lot more to even get to 250. It scares me going higher, but I am not a strong rider. I do recheck just once with the ratchet after a couple rides.
sd5782 is offline  
Likes For sd5782:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.