100 ft per mile a "good" climb?
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alright, ill have to re-do my ride and figure the exact numbers out. but there are dips in the climb...maybe a spot or two of about 2 tenths of a mile where it goes downward...I usually stand up and hammer the entire length, with specific points where i stop and catch my breath. My HRM said i sustained 190, and stayed in the upper 170's for the entire trip. I def. didnt do it @ 30mph tho...i think i kept it at 15-16, which impressed myself...idk about you pro's out there on bikeforums.com
if you can tell from a map what the grade is its in quincy/braintree, ma...the road is called chickatawbut (spelling?)
if you can tell from a map what the grade is its in quincy/braintree, ma...the road is called chickatawbut (spelling?)
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Here's your climb:
https://toporoute.com/cgi-bin/bicycle...EYMWDVYBUBQHWM
As a comparison, here's a local climb I do sometimes. Keep in mind that I am not a climber.
https://toporoute.com/cgi-bin/bicycle...EYMWDVYBUBQHWM
As a comparison, here's a local climb I do sometimes. Keep in mind that I am not a climber.
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I am saying a ride that has no grades exceeding 5% is what I regard as a "flat" ride.
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Very few rides will average 5%, unless they end on top of something.
What goes up, must come down.
5% as the average for the climbing portion of a ride isn't tough at all though. I am not just saying this as a Coloradan. I grew up riding in the NE.
What goes up, must come down.
5% as the average for the climbing portion of a ride isn't tough at all though. I am not just saying this as a Coloradan. I grew up riding in the NE.
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Here's your climb:
https://toporoute.com/cgi-bin/bicycle...EYMWDVYBUBQHWM
As a comparison, here's a local climb I do sometimes. Keep in mind that I am not a climber.
https://toporoute.com/cgi-bin/bicycle...EYMWDVYBUBQHWM
As a comparison, here's a local climb I do sometimes. Keep in mind that I am not a climber.
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There is a guy I ride with that goes up that with a 63T (custom)/21 while I am getting ball-busted on my 39/25.
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However, the poster was talking rides that never exceed 5%. I think most regular cyclists that a ride that never exceeds 5% is very flat. I once did rode the Katy Trail in Missouri (200 miles from Kansas City to St. Louis) and that ride claims to have a maximum grade of 5%. That was the flattest 200 miles that I have ever done, and probably the flattest ride that I will ever do. The steepest part of the ride was on a bridge that went over one of the rivers. I did the whole ride in my big chainring.
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5% average grade for an entire ride is 260 feet per mile. Most people consider 100 feet per mile (average over a long ride) to be a hilly ride, so 200+ is very unusual.
However, the poster was talking rides that never exceed 5%. I think most regular cyclists that a ride that never exceeds 5% is very flat. I once did rode the Katy Trail in Missouri (200 miles from Kansas City to St. Louis) and that ride claims to have a maximum grade of 5%. That was the flattest 200 miles that I have ever done, and probably the flattest ride that I will ever do. The steepest part of the ride was on a bridge that went over one of the rivers. I did the whole ride in my big chainring.
However, the poster was talking rides that never exceed 5%. I think most regular cyclists that a ride that never exceeds 5% is very flat. I once did rode the Katy Trail in Missouri (200 miles from Kansas City to St. Louis) and that ride claims to have a maximum grade of 5%. That was the flattest 200 miles that I have ever done, and probably the flattest ride that I will ever do. The steepest part of the ride was on a bridge that went over one of the rivers. I did the whole ride in my big chainring.
It might be interesting if someone could post some good photographs of short climbs and see how many people can correctly judge the grade from the photo.
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Yeah, I just checked the numbers. I am training for the Devil Moutain Double.... only 87.4'/mile. Pfft... What am I worried about?
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I think it would be interesting to test cyclists' ability to estimate a percentage grade (by sight or effort needed to climb it, I guess). Many people have an awful time estimating distances and heights by sight. When two people on this forum talk about 5% grades, I don't think we can be certain they're talking about exactly the same thing. One or both might be way off.
It might be interesting if someone could post some good photographs of short climbs and see how many people can correctly judge the grade from the photo.
It might be interesting if someone could post some good photographs of short climbs and see how many people can correctly judge the grade from the photo.
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It shouldn't be too hard. But looking at the top of the hill you have to estimate the distance from the base of the hill to the top, then estimate its height. Not everyone is good at making these kinds of estimates by sight. Some people are terrible.
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Here is a fun one: Length 5.94 miles Max 7693 ft Min 5413 ft Mean grade 7.3%
https://toporoute.com/cgi-bin/bicycle...YPNGKTNSGEVDTW
https://toporoute.com/cgi-bin/bicycle...YPNGKTNSGEVDTW
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Maximum grade is also problematic. My rides often list 27-30%, but when you look at the data, you see that is just the curve in a switchback and it is very short (still out of the saddle stuff though). I load my Garmin data into Ascent and it shows me my average climbing grade, or the calculation of grade averaged for any time I am going up...
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This one's fun, too. So Cal riders will recognize this one instantly.
Average grade 5%, 8 miles of ascending, 2 miles of descending along the way. The skinny climbers think it's "easy", but the rest of us consider it moderately hard. It's all relative...
Latigo Cyn.
Average grade 5%, 8 miles of ascending, 2 miles of descending along the way. The skinny climbers think it's "easy", but the rest of us consider it moderately hard. It's all relative...
Latigo Cyn.
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you ride this road but don't know how to spell it?
https://www.mountainzone.com/mountain...sp?fid=7524056
There's your hill.
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haha YES! thats it, chickatawbut...care about the spelling...so yea, looking at that...its a "good" sized hill to train on right? i dont know any other hillier areas around me
https://www.mountainzone.com/mountain...sp?fid=7524056
There's your hill.
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haha YES! thats it, chickatawbut...care about the spelling...so yea, looking at that...its a "good" sized hill to train on right? i dont know any other hillier areas around me
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Here's your climb:
https://toporoute.com/cgi-bin/bicycle...EYMWDVYBUBQHWM
As a comparison, here's a local climb I do sometimes. Keep in mind that I am not a climber.
https://toporoute.com/cgi-bin/bicycle...EYMWDVYBUBQHWM
As a comparison, here's a local climb I do sometimes. Keep in mind that I am not a climber.
wow thats a pretty sick website...ill check that next time i think something is a "good" hill, and then match it up with your graph
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100 ft per mile over longer rides is plenty for me. Though it always depends on how steep that actual climb ends up being.