soccerun8728

Another thing that could of raised the price is the supply chain of carbon fiber. With Boeing and Airbus both building their new airplanes and a lot of them are carbon fiber that usually cuts down on the amount of material. Last I knew most of the Boeing 787 'Dreamliner' is mostly carbon fiber, including the main cabin. I believe the Airbus also uses a lot of carbon fiber for its new A380. I know by watching prices of carbon fiber that just the cost of the matt went up about 200%. That is my take on it.

Fox Farm

So, they raised prices 5%?

stevesurf

I think prices will keep increasing as long as the market will bear it - if you went to Interbike this year you saw countless iterations of high performance road wheetsets from Fulcrum and Mavic to Zipp and Time. There is evidently such a demand, although like you I found the price increases this year were really significant. That's why I opted for last year's Ksyrium ES's (also some good recommendations from you and other BFers)

I think the other impact is the devaluation of the dollar as many wheelsets are made in France and other overseas locations. Manufacturers may have taken the hit last year, but then had to have an "Exchange Rate" price increase.

I'm just really happy with closeouts...

ElJamoquio

No, they lowered the minimum math scores by 5%.

MikeLD

Can't explain the Zipps ... they're made in the US ... but all the stuff made in Europe is more expensive in the US becasue the US dollar is significantly weaker. 7 or 8 years ago it took less than 90 cents to buy a Euro ... today it takes $1.40.

sfrider 

The explanation is Zipp is marketed using a value pricing model, not commodity cost pricing. Rising prices reduces competitive pressure on them, allowing them to raise prices as well. In fact, because they've built a brand around a price premium (whether justified or not doesn't matter), they're almost required to raise prices as well or erode the brand.

I'd look for Zipp to come out with a budget product line or brand to exploit the cost advantage. Positioned at 90% of the regular Zipp value at 35% lower MSRP, or some such. Then push these in volume they can't do with their current products without destroying the existing brand. Maybe under the SRAM name and channels.

haimtoeg

Did he send any baskets to his equally loyal customers?

ElJamoquio

My prediction: Michael Rasmussen will be kicked out of the TdF while in the Yellow Jersey.

cslone

And some guy named Lance will win 5.......no.........7 tours.

Coyote2

Something was lost in translation, but I think I understand your point. That also reminds me that the aerospace industry is using increasingly huge amounts of CF - each new Airbus A380 uses a huge amount. This naturally raises CF prices for all users.

'nother

Could have something to do with people posting "I've been told in no uncertain terms to avoid anything less than the top-end of any product line" on BikeForums. At least, that's what I've been told. In no uncertain terms.

jaxgtr

You know when my wife bought a new purse recently, I asked her how much it cost, as I new "fine quality leather goods" are expensive. She told me that was not important because she wanted the purse and it would go with several outfits. Obviously forgetting that I balance the check book, I about fell out of my chair when I saw the cost.

Going by the 40% savings price Pcad paid, I think Pcad got the better deal.

elgalad

Stop bloody whining, for christ's sake.

U.S. MSRP = Australian wholesale.

Shove that in your overpriced pipe and smoke it.

Psimet2001 

Carbon prices are a nice excuse that Zipp/Sram can use, but as others have mentioned the price is what it is because the market can bear it.

....that and negative drag costs a lot.

cslone

Yeah, it reads weird. There are guys in Indy that specialize in Carbon Fiber parts for race cars. Zipp is competing with the race car companies for these specialists' time and work, so the price goes up.

spry

Not to worry my ocp friend of the Empire state.High zoot will still be affordable.
Just like bikes,the Chinese will sell those rims for peanuts here with major name brands slapped on them.
How will you snub these new aero-snobs when the "made in china" label is on the inside of the rim?

pedalmyass

When my wife found out that I was trying to win a pair of 404's on ebay the other day, she placed our bathroom scale next to our computer and placed a note on it that said " the cost is $0.00 for the extra 10lbs that you can lose, this will also allow you to be faster than any 1200gram wheel set ever will".
God I love her.

Az B

I think I do too.

Do she have a sister?

Az

Edonis13

but pcad, they have the word "zipp" on them. that alone easily makes them worth over 5 times as much as the wheels BD is gonna sell.

Looneytuna

I waited and waited till this past summer and paid $1650 and was told that the price was $300 higher then a year ago... Zipp has raised prices by $550 is 2 years... and will probably continue this way as long as there are customers paying the price...

jkizzle

what about a daughter?

patentcad

Never.

kevyn

SWAG = Souvenirs, Wearables and Gifts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swag_%28disambiguation%29

Several times now I've seen the term "schwag" used on this forum as it is being used in this thread.

Schwag or swag is free stuff given away as marketing promotions, not expensive goods of questionable real value.


-kevin

Az B

What can I say? I'm old. When I see a good looking young girl, the first thing that pops into my mind is "I'll bet her mom is hot".

Someday you'll think that's funny.

Az

HAMMER MAN

I was told basically it is across the whole spectrum of cycling,do to transportation cost, fuel cost and higher on going labor