Cheeto

Ok, so the 2004 Race Jamis Komodo frames are like, a killer deal right now... I want to buy one and build up a bike, Most of the parts would just come off my 3900 until I can upgrade better.-This is just so I cna ride. (yes I know not all of the parts will work for it.) I asked my mom if I could go ahead and buy the frame.. she just sighed and was like"I knew you wouldn't be happy with the bike we got you" I tried explaning here that different frames have different things and that I ride a little to hard for the 3900. She just said no.
SO how do I go about getting this support that I need?


I would really like to, in the future do my own build. I'm torn apart from a HArdtail or a Fully lol.

At that frame price, the Komodo is awesome

scelia

A job? Works for me...

Cheeto

Turned in 5 applications. They don't like to hire at 16 here. Ask anyone in my school.

and besides, I dont have a credit card number, my mom does, so I still need her permission

mtnbiker66

I'll cheer you on from here...............Gooooooooooooo Cheeto!!!!!!

Ashen

Earn some money, and spend your cash on one of those Visa cash cards. Then you have a credit card number, and you can still be spending your own money.

Cheeto

I still have to Have her permission to get the frame people... Or else it'd end up outside in the yard/ trash.

scelia

Can you run a lawn mower? Pull weeds? Wash cars? If you show your mom some motivation of your own to earn the money for your expensive hobby she might be inclined to help you...

Ashen

Then what are you asking? Do you think a bunch of perfect strangers know a secret way to convince your mom to let you have a new frame?

scelia

And don't think that needing permission to buy things ends when you "grow up"... I still need my wife's permission for all my toys... And she has just authorized a set of I9 Enduro wheels!

Cheeto

I was trying to gear this to my Age group, as they have probabley had to convince their parents to let them get multiple bikes.

Ashen

Ah. Well I hope you are able to convince her. I agree that earning the money and having it in hand would probably go a long way though.

Terrapin Ben

just keep annoying her. see where that will get you. you can also tell her that you will never realize true happiness without this frame. and that the 3900 is dangerous. i would just start lying untill she can't take it anymore. or untill you get grounded. but seriously, i'd take Ashen's advice. you're old enough to be disobeying your parents. what mama don't know can't hurt her right?

soccerun8728

Sorry, I bought all of my bikes with my money. Plus my parents considered my job to do well in school and try hard at the sports that I did. I was also suppose to help them out around the house whenever they needed me. Though the initiative to earn your own money may change your mother's mind, either that or go ask dad.

Cheeto

Eh, My dad is deployed for a Year. I have minimal contact with him.
I have the money for the frame. I'm awaiting job interviews. I wash the cars, as I drive them and do the trash and dishes. and what ever else.

SHE doesn't see the need for a new bike already lol.
I disobey them all the time. Hell, I did a small bit of Mudding today in my car LOL! came home and washed it.
How would I explain myself when a Bike frae suddently shows on my front door. I still need somewhere to put it

cryptid01

Get a job on a farm.

rankin116

Have the bike shipped to a friend's, paint it EXACTLY the same as the 3900, and she'll never know.

pyroguy_3

Wow your mom runs a tight ship! I do farm work all summer to support my bicycle habit. I earmark all that money for bike stuff and use the other money I make during the year for rent/tuition/booze/ you get the point. Luckily next semester I'll have a $1200 stipend via grad-school. New wheelset here I come! Seriously though, there's definitely no help to be found on BF, as all the possibilities are common sense. Oh yeah, as Gastro said do farmwork. I'm pretty sure there's no age limit, and maybe you can get the farmer to pay you under the table.

mx_599

sswwwwweeeeeeeeet!

mx

Halebopp

I've bought my road bike, both mountain bikes, and my track bike all with my own money. When I was in middle school I did yard work all summer to pay for them. My parents never had a problem with it. Now that I am in college and have "real" jobs I still kind of check in with them before I purchase, but its more for advice on whether its a smart purchace or not (seeing that I need money for school, etc). As bikes, food, and school are the only things I spend money on, they didn't think twice about my "new" (used) hardtail off craigslist.

schnee

1) Find the resale cost of your current frame
2) Do the math as to the difference in cost
3) Provide this info to your mom
4) Ask her what she'd need to see you accomplish to get her permission
5) Do what it is she told you

StephenH

There's probably not a good way, so sometimes you have to deal with it. You'll run into similar things in the workplace as well. What happens is you have an idea how things ought to be done, your boss has an idea how things ought to be, and guess what happens?

One lesson to be learned here: If you want to buy stuff that is stupid and pointless, be sure and do it before you get married. (IE, anything relating to hobbies or guy-stuff).

boyvirgil

clean the house
REEEEEALLY WELL

liv_rong

Damn straight. I already have an expensive hobby, music and reocrding equipment. my girl friend was already pissed about all that spending. Then I ear marked $400 for a bike, then got a job at a bike shop, then spent nealry a grand on a bike, upgrades, shoes and helmet. Needless to say, my girlfriend was not happy. Seeing as we are saving to buy a house and eventually do the marraige thing, spending a grand was not a good idea to her. So I bought her a bike on closeout and told her I was getting it painted pink, then she was a little more happy with it.

my mom never wanted to spend more money on better quality toys, but my dad on the other hand likes good stuff, so he aways pushed the issue through. my mom was always happy though once she realized we were happy and that we had safer things.

Zephyr11

Honestly, I think your mom is just trying to keep you from forming an "easy come, easy go" attitude about money. Forgive me if I'm making assumptions here, as I do more reading on these forums than posting, but it seems like every time you get money, you immediately spend it on upgrading your bike. Now, everyone here thinks that's a great idea! The portion of my salary allocated towards "fun" generally goes towards toys too. Of course, if I called up my mom and told her about my purchases, I'd surely get a "You spend WHAT on a bike?!" Similarly, to your mom, it probably looks like money burns a hole in your pocket...and gets wasted on bike parts. I'm sure she looks at you and sees an indiscriminate shopper who doesn't understand the value of money, and she wants to drill that into you before you leave the nest. Right now, she knows that you have little or no real financial obligations, and she wants to make sure you know how to budget your money before you do get hit with such things.

My advice to you would be to lay out a budget plan, on paper, and present it to her. Write up how you plan on getting income, and how much income you think that will be, whether it's from allowances or whatever jobs you can find. And I don't want to hear that you can't find work...if you really can't find an employer willing to hire you, there are still other options. Freelance...look for your own employment, whether it's mowing lawns, babysitting, walking someone's dog, or just looking around town and seeing who needs help doing what. You'd be surprised. And get creative. I did freelance artwork for years. I know a guy who gave private guitar lessons. I've heard of people going to yard sales and then reselling on eBay for profit. And if worse comes to worse, make your current bike into a fixie and sell it on Craigslist. You'd be surprised what fixies fetch, especially since they're "trendy" now. Once you have your income figured out, plan your budget. Allocating a portion (say 20-30%) towards a college fund will impress your parents. Or maybe do 15% towards college and 10% towards a car/insurance. That savings portion is key in proving that you can handle money. Then allocate another small portion, maybe 20% or so, towards pocket spending money, which would go towards things like going out with your friends. That way you won't have to bug your parents for cash for things like that, which will further show them you can budget your money. Finally, put the remaining chunk towards "big purchases," in this case, obviously the bike. It might sound like a lot of work, but it will prove your responsibility to your mom.

And Stephen, the alternative to buying everything before you get married...is finding a girl who geeks out over bike toys and such just as much as you. I'd love to find a guy who gets super stoked over the crank he just found on eBay...especially if he's willing to pass some of his bike knowledge on to me.

troie

Sounds like you need to do some more research instead jumping the gun on a cheap frame. Just because its on sale doesnt mean you need to buy it. I was in your same exact situation when I bought my 03 HardRock.

Besides, they only have it in 19".