Reminisce about your prison days at 30mph on the new Specialized Shiv.
06-29-09, 09:30 AM
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Reminisce about your prison days at 30mph on the new Specialized Shiv.
Really, who names these things?
Anyway, apparently they'll be for sale in limited numbers in 2010...
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/articl...aix-shiv-22207
Anyway, apparently they'll be for sale in limited numbers in 2010...
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/articl...aix-shiv-22207
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06-29-09, 09:46 AM
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Technically, isn't everything that's for sale available in limited numbers? Is that just business-speak for "we know we'll only sell about 17 of these"?.
06-29-09, 09:48 AM
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Specialized bicycles are too much $$$ for what they really are.....they even make Treks sound price reasonable.
06-29-09, 09:49 AM
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No, it's business-speak for "we won't make as many of these as we know people will want, and we will charge even more for them". I guarantee they will be highly in-demand, backordered out the wazoo, and you will have to know somebody to get one.
06-29-09, 10:16 AM
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06-29-09, 10:36 AM
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looks like it would break upon impact as well as a shiv.
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They should have...then Cancellara's first win on it could be called The Specshank Redemption.
LOL
Actually, no?
Actually, no?
06-29-09, 10:41 AM
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06-29-09, 10:42 AM
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Let's do a few quick comparisions:
* Look 595: $4000 (R&A)
* Cervelo R3-SL: $3900
* Pinarello Prince: $5500 (R&A)
* Trek Madone 6.9 Pro Frameset $3500 (Helen's cycles, but hard to find Trek framesets in general).
I'm not even sure what other frames would compare... but $2900 is not the expensive option on the list.
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Too bad it won't be used in any more pro tours.
Lots of 3-1 ratio violations there.
Lots of 3-1 ratio violations there.
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Someone 'splain' to me how the 3T Ventus aero bar is deemed non compliant by the UCI but the front end of this bike is...
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Actually it's part of the handlebar/stem,
https://www.velonews.com/photo/91774
Which would be outside the UCI rules
https://www.velonews.com/article/88266
1.3.024
Any device, added or blended into the structure, that is destined to decrease, or which has the effect of decreasing, resistance to air penetration or artificially to accelerate propulsion, such as a protective screen, fuselage form of fairing or the like, shall be prohibited.
A protective screen shall be defined as a fixed component that serves as a windscreen or windbreak designed to protect another fixed element of the bicycle in order to reduce its wind resistance.
A fuselage form shall be defined as an extension or streamlining of a section. This shall be tolerated as long as the ratio between the length L and the diameter D does not exceed 3.
A fairing shall be defined as the use or adaptation of a component of the bicycle in such a fashion that it encloses a moving part of the bicycle such as the wheels or the chainset. Therefore it should be possible to pass a rigid card (like a credit card) between the fixed structure and the moving part.
They banned the Ventus aerobar because they deemed it to be an air foil as it was too thin. Yet the this 'nosecone' is more of a fairing than the Ventus is a foil.
https://www.velonews.com/photo/91774
Which would be outside the UCI rules
https://www.velonews.com/article/88266
1.3.024
Any device, added or blended into the structure, that is destined to decrease, or which has the effect of decreasing, resistance to air penetration or artificially to accelerate propulsion, such as a protective screen, fuselage form of fairing or the like, shall be prohibited.
A protective screen shall be defined as a fixed component that serves as a windscreen or windbreak designed to protect another fixed element of the bicycle in order to reduce its wind resistance.
A fuselage form shall be defined as an extension or streamlining of a section. This shall be tolerated as long as the ratio between the length L and the diameter D does not exceed 3.
A fairing shall be defined as the use or adaptation of a component of the bicycle in such a fashion that it encloses a moving part of the bicycle such as the wheels or the chainset. Therefore it should be possible to pass a rigid card (like a credit card) between the fixed structure and the moving part.
They banned the Ventus aerobar because they deemed it to be an air foil as it was too thin. Yet the this 'nosecone' is more of a fairing than the Ventus is a foil.