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Old 08-22-20, 10:07 AM
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Suntour Superbe bottom bracket components, soon to be installed in a Fuji Opus III. The caged bearings will be replaced with loose bearings.
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Suntour Superbe bottom bracket components, soon to be installed in a Fuji Opus III. The caged bearings will be replaced with loose bearings.
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Beat the ebay parts sellers this week by picking these up for $30 for the pair.


And it's going on this once I find an appropriate 36 spoke back rim...




Technically the OEM crank isn't Superbe Pro but the Sakae Aerox is a good looker, and it's original, so I'll keep it. Might keep an eye out for Superbe Pro calipers, but the 105 SLRs (matched to original Diacompe Aero GC levers) are really good period appropriate brakes.
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I know the hubs are Suntour but don’t know the model. I do know the brakes are Superbe. I bought them new at least 40 years ago.


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Originally Posted by sheddle
Technically the OEM crank isn't Superbe Pro but the Sakae Aerox is a good looker, and it's original, so I'll keep it. Might keep an eye out for Superbe Pro calipers, but the 105 SLRs (matched to original Diacompe Aero GC levers) are really good period appropriate brakes.
Superbe Pro "hidden spring" calipers are, IMHO, the best road bike brake ever made.

But the 105 SLR single pivots are right up there. Especially with 600 tri-color SLR levers... it don't get much better. (The 105 SLR levers do not suck. But the 600s are mo betta.)

I've never tried SLR levers with Superbe Pro calipers. If the lever and caliper springs balance out like I hope they would, it'd be nirvana with awesome sauce and a side order of amazing.
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Superbe Pro "hidden spring" calipers are, IMHO, the best road bike brake ever made.

But the 105 SLR single pivots are right up there. Especially with 600 tri-color SLR levers... it don't get much better. (The 105 SLR levers do not suck. But the 600s are mo betta.)

I've never tried SLR levers with Superbe Pro calipers. If the lever and caliper springs balance out like I hope they would, it'd be nirvana with awesome sauce and a side order of amazing.
I don't know if any of the DiaCompe BRS levers would play well with the internal spring brakes- I assume it's all the same system- which I assume is not far off from SLR.

I have a bike with a 6400 series single pivot (back) and dual pivot (front) brakes with 6400 series levers- that's a nice braking bike.
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Superbe model 4000, short reach, recessed mount. Disassembled for cleaning. Brake pads to be replaced with new Kool-Stops.

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Superbe model 4000, short reach, recessed mount. Disassembled for cleaning. Brake pads to be replaced with new Kool-Stops.

Aren't these just rebranded Suntour, or vice versa?

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Beat the ebay parts sellers this week by picking these up for $30 for the pair.

Hey, that's my pic! And they were $35!

Nice meetin' ya. And good luck with the wheelbuild.
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The Royal Gran Compes you show are later than the 1st-gen Spb Pro. There's a fair amount of parts interchangeability, but the arm profiles are different----look at the extra rearward arm projection on the Gran Compe, overhanging the the spring. And the shoe holders are very different, and not interchangeable.

I could very likely be wrong, but I don't think there were any, at least not many, Yoshigai-made Suntour-branded brake calipers that were identical to Yoshigai/Dia-Compe calipers. Lots of similarities, but never (at least seldom?) simply rebranded calipers. Especially at the higher end.

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Aren't these just rebranded Suntour, or vice versa?
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Single-pivot sidepull high-water mark IMHO:

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'70s goodness....

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Shoulda been Toshi straps!

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Flyin' the flag.....

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Nagasawa Special Road with a somewhat mixed-era Suntour build; photo by Ken Toda:

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Well, it's either this or work on mounting some Honjo fenders...

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OK, more coffee and fenders after this last one...

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OK, really, back to the fenders after this one....my favorite rear derailleur evah.

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@hazetguy asked for the instructions for the Pedal Bearing Tool and I emailed this pic to him but decided to post them here also for anyone who might be interested.
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thumpism Could you repost or replace with higher resolutio pic? I can't read the text with that small a pic.
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Originally Posted by pcb
Shoulda been Toshi straps!
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Nagasawa Special Road with a somewhat mixed-era Suntour build; photo by Ken Toda:
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Well, it's either this or work on mounting some Honjo fenders...
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OK, more coffee and fenders after this last one...
WINNER! As always great photo's
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Gee, thanks Ben!

For the record, it's almost 4mos later now, and though I made some progress on those Honjos, they're not quite finished yet...

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All Superbe Gilmour...except the Gran Compe brake calipers - to be replaced with Superbes soon.







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