Did you know chocolate is good for you?
11-04-23, 06:59 PM
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My chocolate keeps me in shape...
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I used to eat Lindt 95%, but I switched to my wife's brand, Ghirardelli 92%, after reading the respective Cadmium assays.
If it's not over 90%, it's not real chocolate.
If it's not over 90%, it's not real chocolate.
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11-04-23, 09:36 PM
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Ghirardelli has one of the lowest levels of heavy metals according to CR.
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11-05-23, 05:21 AM
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I love chocolate and eat a little daily. Unfortunately I prefer milk chocolate so probably not much/any health benefit
11-05-23, 06:48 AM
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I figure that anything I eat on a daily basis should be reasonably healthy and chocolate is on my daily list.
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11-05-23, 08:06 AM
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The way CR reported it, one would think that high lead and cadmium come from one brand and not another. But the source isn't the manufacturing process - it's that cocoa plants leach heavy metals from the soil from which they are grown. Assuming that a particular "brand" sources cocoa beans from an array of places, the "bad" brands likely had recently purchased beans from places with more metals in the soil. It doesn't mean that that brand is always high in metals, or that the "good" ones (low lead, low cadmium in the CR tests) stay "good".
so it's hard to know which brand is "better". It's also hard to know whether the levels of lead and cadmium outweigh the benefits of dark chocolate. For older people, the risks are probably less than for children or for women of reproductive age..
so it's hard to know which brand is "better". It's also hard to know whether the levels of lead and cadmium outweigh the benefits of dark chocolate. For older people, the risks are probably less than for children or for women of reproductive age..
11-05-23, 08:18 AM
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11-05-23, 08:33 AM
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I have tried and liked quite a few of the products on this list below, but I doubt most of them are available in NA. I generally stay well clear of the traditional junk “chocolate” from Mars, Cadbury etc. But I do still enjoy the odd Snickers bar as a treat.
https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/review/t...e-tried-tested
https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/review/t...e-tried-tested
11-05-23, 09:42 AM
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11-05-23, 09:44 AM
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I have tried and liked quite a few of the products on this list below, but I doubt most of them are available in NA. I generally stay well clear of the traditional junk “chocolate” from Mars, Cadbury etc. But I do still enjoy the odd Snickers bar as a treat.
https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/review/t...e-tried-tested
https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/review/t...e-tried-tested
11-05-23, 12:10 PM
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Coffee, chocolate ... always a win in marketing ;-)
No need really for these "miracles", simply Think chocolate, say cheese and go (bananas)!
Of course, nothing wrong with doing a little experiment every now and then:
No need really for these "miracles", simply Think chocolate, say cheese and go (bananas)!
Of course, nothing wrong with doing a little experiment every now and then:
11-05-23, 01:49 PM
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I think of Lindt as mass market too. I don’t think any of their products made this list. Regarding Hersheys etc I guess chocolate containing minimal amounts of actual cocoa avoids the heavy metal issue.
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chockaholic?
not so good if you have acid reflex or GERD.
11-06-23, 02:29 PM
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The amount of heavy metals depends on their concentration in the soil the beans are grown. The majority of chocolate, which I dearly love, is grown in those conditions.
The title of the thread may need to be rewritten: Did you know that chocolate is not actually good for you? It was thought that drinking red wine was good for you too (antioxidants) but that was disproven along with all alcohol consumption. I hate it when all the ‘good’ stuff is bad for you.
(I still have left over Snickers and Reese’s Peanut Butter cups I am slowly polishing off from Halloween and several bottles of red wine which I am now very slowly drinking.)
The title of the thread may need to be rewritten: Did you know that chocolate is not actually good for you? It was thought that drinking red wine was good for you too (antioxidants) but that was disproven along with all alcohol consumption. I hate it when all the ‘good’ stuff is bad for you.
(I still have left over Snickers and Reese’s Peanut Butter cups I am slowly polishing off from Halloween and several bottles of red wine which I am now very slowly drinking.)
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11-06-23, 03:30 PM
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The amount of heavy metals depends on their concentration in the soil the beans are grown. The majority of chocolate, which I dearly love, is grown in those conditions.
The title of the thread may need to be rewritten: Did you know that chocolate is not actually good for you? It was thought that drinking red wine was good for you too (antioxidants) but that was disproven along with all alcohol consumption. I hate it when all the ‘good’ stuff is bad for you.
(I still have left over Snickers and Reese’s Peanut Butter cups I am slowly polishing off from Halloween and several bottles of red wine which I am now very slowly drinking.)
The title of the thread may need to be rewritten: Did you know that chocolate is not actually good for you? It was thought that drinking red wine was good for you too (antioxidants) but that was disproven along with all alcohol consumption. I hate it when all the ‘good’ stuff is bad for you.
(I still have left over Snickers and Reese’s Peanut Butter cups I am slowly polishing off from Halloween and several bottles of red wine which I am now very slowly drinking.)
Regarding red wine and heavy metals:
"Yes, there can be heavy metals in red wine. Heavy metals are naturally occurring elements that can be toxic to humans in high doses. Some common heavy metals found in red wine include:
- Arsenic
- Cadmium
- Lead
- Copper
- Iron
- Manganese
- Nickel
- Zinc
11-06-23, 03:45 PM
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The issue with chocolate and heavy metals seems to be a combination of the composition of the soil and the propensity of the cocoa plant to concentrate those metals. That may be similar for red wine, though I know less about it.
I don't think we should get too worked up about these issues of contamination, though. There is no such thing as an environment (or a diet) wholly free of (heavy metals/radiation/biotoxins). (As you all surely know, bananas are radioactive). It's better to find the chocolates with low Pb and Cd (though as I noted above, I'm not sure that the CR report is the best guide for this), but unless you are eating many bars/day, I doubt that the consequences would be measurable.
I don't think we should get too worked up about these issues of contamination, though. There is no such thing as an environment (or a diet) wholly free of (heavy metals/radiation/biotoxins). (As you all surely know, bananas are radioactive). It's better to find the chocolates with low Pb and Cd (though as I noted above, I'm not sure that the CR report is the best guide for this), but unless you are eating many bars/day, I doubt that the consequences would be measurable.
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I remember when the mainstream media picked up on the fact that red wine has traces of reservatrol which had proven to be effective in mouse longevity studies. Except they missed that the equivalent effective dose in humans would require drinking several hundred bottles of wine!
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11-06-23, 08:06 PM
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My guess was that the change in attitude was in 1990's, just in case I asked google:
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Muffins became popular as a health food in the United States in the 1970s and 1980s.
...Muffins were marketed as a healthy breakfast food for all ages. They were often advertised as being low in fat and calories and high in fiber. Muffins were also seen as a good way to get children to eat their fruits and vegetables, as they could be made with a variety of fillings, such as blueberries, bananas, and carrots.
The popularity of muffins as a health food began to decline in the late 1980s and early 1990s. This was due to a number of factors ..."
About the same time, 1993, there was Seinfeld episode about "non-fat yogurt" that tasted to good to be true.
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Muffins became popular as a health food in the United States in the 1970s and 1980s.
...Muffins were marketed as a healthy breakfast food for all ages. They were often advertised as being low in fat and calories and high in fiber. Muffins were also seen as a good way to get children to eat their fruits and vegetables, as they could be made with a variety of fillings, such as blueberries, bananas, and carrots.
The popularity of muffins as a health food began to decline in the late 1980s and early 1990s. This was due to a number of factors ..."
About the same time, 1993, there was Seinfeld episode about "non-fat yogurt" that tasted to good to be true.
11-06-23, 08:13 PM
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What scientists say is bad now, they will claim is good in 10-20 years. It happens in every aspect of life: food, climate, politics, etc.
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However, as late as 1990's the tobacco industry was in denial:
"In 1994, seven CEOs of major tobacco companies testified before the House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Health and the Environment. They were all asked whether or not they believed that nicotine was addictive, and all seven of them said no.
One of the CEOs, James W. Johnston of R.J. Reynolds, even went so far as to say that cigarettes and nicotine "clearly do not meet the classic definitions of addiction." He also said that he did not believe that smoking caused cancer or other diseases."
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I remember when the mainstream media picked up on the fact that red wine has traces of reservatrol which had proven to be effective in mouse longevity studies. Except they missed that the equivalent effective dose in humans would require drinking several hundred bottles of wine!
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My guess was that the change in attitude was in 1990's, just in case I asked google:
"
Muffins became popular as a health food in the United States in the 1970s and 1980s.
...Muffins were marketed as a healthy breakfast food for all ages. They were often advertised as being low in fat and calories and high in fiber. Muffins were also seen as a good way to get children to eat their fruits and vegetables, as they could be made with a variety of fillings, such as blueberries, bananas, and carrots.
The popularity of muffins as a health food began to decline in the late 1980s and early 1990s. This was due to a number of factors ..."
About the same time, 1993, there was Seinfeld episode about "non-fat yogurt" that tasted to good to be true.
"
Muffins became popular as a health food in the United States in the 1970s and 1980s.
...Muffins were marketed as a healthy breakfast food for all ages. They were often advertised as being low in fat and calories and high in fiber. Muffins were also seen as a good way to get children to eat their fruits and vegetables, as they could be made with a variety of fillings, such as blueberries, bananas, and carrots.
The popularity of muffins as a health food began to decline in the late 1980s and early 1990s. This was due to a number of factors ..."
About the same time, 1993, there was Seinfeld episode about "non-fat yogurt" that tasted to good to be true.
Then there are the chemicals in Red Vines. Red Dye #2?
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