Bike facilities to encourage commuting... ideas?
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Shower facilities...give me a break....
Try slowing down on the ride in (it's NOT a training ride) and utilizing a little talcum powder when you get there. You could also leave some spare cloths at the office...
Try slowing down on the ride in (it's NOT a training ride) and utilizing a little talcum powder when you get there. You could also leave some spare cloths at the office...
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Galen,
How slow does one need to ride with full intense sun at 7am and 95F so as not to sweat? I remember ~10yrs ago the low temp didn't drop below 100F one night.
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How slow does one need to ride with full intense sun at 7am and 95F so as not to sweat? I remember ~10yrs ago the low temp didn't drop below 100F one night.
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It gets hot here too with humidity above 95%....
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Originally Posted by galen_52657
It gets hot here too with humidity above 95%....
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Originally Posted by galen_52657
Shower facilities...give me a break....
Try slowing down on the ride in (it's NOT a training ride) and utilizing a little talcum powder when you get there. You could also leave some spare cloths at the office...
Try slowing down on the ride in (it's NOT a training ride) and utilizing a little talcum powder when you get there. You could also leave some spare cloths at the office...
Water and resources can be saved by taking quick rinse off showers or "Navy showers;" this involves a quick wet down, shutting off the water, soaping up, then turning on the water and rinsing.
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Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff
Oh dear god no...
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You have to coast a lot....
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Originally Posted by rando
one more vote for showers and lockers. that would be useful to me.
I have both, and if I didn't, I wouldn't bike commute.
(well, I don't have a locker, but I have a place to secure/store my bike -- my office -- which is the function of a bike locker)
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Originally Posted by galen_52657
Shower facilities...give me a break....
Try slowing down on the ride in (it's NOT a training ride) and utilizing a little talcum powder when you get there. You could also leave some spare cloths at the office...
Try slowing down on the ride in (it's NOT a training ride) and utilizing a little talcum powder when you get there. You could also leave some spare cloths at the office...
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I'd rather have free doughnuts and a ride led by the mayor every month, versus showers so some of us can wet down after a once-a-week bicycle commute.
I ride every day for at least a half hour, in the clothes I work in, mostly, and don't shower even though one is available. i've been cycle commuting like that since the 1980's. ride, stop, cool down. some hot days I bring a change of shirt. cotton smells a lot less than synthetics, i think thats a mistake a lot of people make, wearing synthetics instead of wool and cotton for their commute.
When I'm doing a two hour hammer-time workout before work, i change clothes but don't shower. I find showers are so not necessary after a commute if you ride a lot, ironically.
SO, a ride led by the mayor every month and some free doughnuts, versus the fight so some 'riders' can shower a once, a couple of days a week.
Bike infrastructure, lots of places to lock up, signage and public service announcements. targeted enforcement to encourage lawful operation of motor vehicles.
I ride every day for at least a half hour, in the clothes I work in, mostly, and don't shower even though one is available. i've been cycle commuting like that since the 1980's. ride, stop, cool down. some hot days I bring a change of shirt. cotton smells a lot less than synthetics, i think thats a mistake a lot of people make, wearing synthetics instead of wool and cotton for their commute.
When I'm doing a two hour hammer-time workout before work, i change clothes but don't shower. I find showers are so not necessary after a commute if you ride a lot, ironically.
SO, a ride led by the mayor every month and some free doughnuts, versus the fight so some 'riders' can shower a once, a couple of days a week.
Bike infrastructure, lots of places to lock up, signage and public service announcements. targeted enforcement to encourage lawful operation of motor vehicles.
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Originally Posted by sbhikes
I try to avoid the showers because I just don't feel comfortable getting naked around coworkers. So I just try to ride slow enough to not get dripping with sweat and wear my street clothes. Fortunately it's almost always cold outside when I ride.
If it's hot or my clothes don't lend well to riding a bike, I'll bring my street clothes and try to hide my cycling clothes in my cube, hopefully I can get them to dry out. Wet cycling clothes at the end of the day suck.
I find I get smelly from stress more than from exercise. And I kill the germs under my arms with alcohol before I use deodrant to keep the bacteria down.
So for me, the showers are a wash (ha ha) but I do appreciate the big handicapped stall in the restroom for changing.
If it's hot or my clothes don't lend well to riding a bike, I'll bring my street clothes and try to hide my cycling clothes in my cube, hopefully I can get them to dry out. Wet cycling clothes at the end of the day suck.
I find I get smelly from stress more than from exercise. And I kill the germs under my arms with alcohol before I use deodrant to keep the bacteria down.
So for me, the showers are a wash (ha ha) but I do appreciate the big handicapped stall in the restroom for changing.
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thank you for summing it up so well.
as far as the wet clothes at the end of the day -- they suck worse at the beginning of the day, but i deal w/ it when i have to.
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Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff
Yea... well, for some of us, smelling nice and fresh is a job requirement. Myself, I don't need to be all that groomed, but I do need to look professional (I am an engineer). I am too green yet to get to be that person in the Hawaiian shirt and sandels and be respected for my engineering skills alone. I'm working on it though.
{god forbid some sensitive nose be offended by another human body -- oh, no! we must have our people odor-free!}
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Originally Posted by sauerwald
Bike lockers are nice, but if my city were to do two things that would make my life as a commuter easier it would be:
1) Strict enforcement of traffic laws. Wouldn't have to cost anything either as I'll bet any costs that they incur could be covered by the tickets that they write.
2) Better road maintenence: Clear the debris from the sides of the roads, fill potholes, make trafic light sensors sensitive enough to sense my bike etc.
Before you start trying to do something new, do what you are supposedly already doing!
1) Strict enforcement of traffic laws. Wouldn't have to cost anything either as I'll bet any costs that they incur could be covered by the tickets that they write.
2) Better road maintenence: Clear the debris from the sides of the roads, fill potholes, make trafic light sensors sensitive enough to sense my bike etc.
Before you start trying to do something new, do what you are supposedly already doing!
my town would be that much better for cycling if the public works department just got off their asses!
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Originally Posted by sbhikes
I try to avoid the showers because I just don't feel comfortable getting naked around coworkers. So I just try to ride slow enough to not get dripping with sweat and wear my street clothes. Fortunately it's almost always cold outside when I ride..
The desire for showers obviously is partly dependent on where one lives and local climate.
They were essential for me when I had a weekly dr. appt. I rode to every Wed. at lunch in 115F weather. Not much time to ride slow and no way to stay sweat and red free after. The shower is as much to cool down body temp as to wash. In mid summer 95F morning after 5min cold shower, 15min changing and walking across park lot I am still beet red and mildly sweaty at desk. It takes me 90min to cool down after work at home in the summer without a shower. I don't think may appreciate what its like to ride for 9mi in 118F (shade temp) with full sun on pavement around hot cars - one can do it faster at 30min or slow at 60min. One may not survise 60min in this type of full sun while riding a bike slow. Thats going home of course, but is also what is needed for me to run errands during the day or go to the other office site which can happen last minute need.
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Some of these rants are absurd!
I just dont' see whats wrong with expecting to shower at work after riding.
For the last year I was living/working in Sydney Australia.
Cycling 10kms in the morning to work in the City - work in finance where you are required to wear a suit and shave and smell reasonably nice.
1. Ride so you don't work up a sweat?
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in 30C heat at 7-8am in the summer trying to get to work in a reasonable time (10kms in <30mins) you WILL Sweat.
2. Waste of water?
I didn't shower at home before Cycling to work so i'm using the same amount of water.
For the last year I was living/working in Sydney Australia.
Cycling 10kms in the morning to work in the City - work in finance where you are required to wear a suit and shave and smell reasonably nice.
1. Ride so you don't work up a sweat?
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in 30C heat at 7-8am in the summer trying to get to work in a reasonable time (10kms in <30mins) you WILL Sweat.
2. Waste of water?
I didn't shower at home before Cycling to work so i'm using the same amount of water.
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The best facility I can thing of to increase bike commuting would be a mandatory car crusher. All cars drive to it, and are immediately crushed. Bike commuting would increase 1000-fold.
Seriously though, around here (northern Ky./Cincy) something as simple as more bike racks would help alot.
Seriously though, around here (northern Ky./Cincy) something as simple as more bike racks would help alot.
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Uh... Boston, I think tearing down the whole city and starting over might be a good start.
Filling pot holes. Putting the damn sewer grates back the right way. Ticketing bad drivers. Bike lanes that aren't in the door zone. Bike lanes at all. More bike racks. Some of the more inclusive facilities mentioned above sound awesome. Luckily my employer (and many others in the area) supply bike "cages" areas where bikes can be locked under cover and in a relatively secure area (employee ID card scanner to enter). There are a few bike paths in the area that allow easier commutes, some more planning and modifications could be done to make things much, much better.
Filling pot holes. Putting the damn sewer grates back the right way. Ticketing bad drivers. Bike lanes that aren't in the door zone. Bike lanes at all. More bike racks. Some of the more inclusive facilities mentioned above sound awesome. Luckily my employer (and many others in the area) supply bike "cages" areas where bikes can be locked under cover and in a relatively secure area (employee ID card scanner to enter). There are a few bike paths in the area that allow easier commutes, some more planning and modifications could be done to make things much, much better.
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Wow. This thread is, like, 8 months old.
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DART here in Dallas has a limited number of bike lockers at train stations.
To me, the #1 item is just having decent routes. I can get around in my neighborhood just fine. But to cross under a freeway requires that I be on one of the main roads with heavy traffic , which all have curbs and no shoulders. Bike lanes, shoulders, or bike routes seperate from roads would all be great. They don't have to be high dollar (contrary to what the City of Dallas seems to think), just a way to get from one point to another without getting run over.
To me, the #1 item is just having decent routes. I can get around in my neighborhood just fine. But to cross under a freeway requires that I be on one of the main roads with heavy traffic , which all have curbs and no shoulders. Bike lanes, shoulders, or bike routes seperate from roads would all be great. They don't have to be high dollar (contrary to what the City of Dallas seems to think), just a way to get from one point to another without getting run over.