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Old 06-12-13, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
I'm not at liberty to expose the whole industry's dirty little secrets. I was simply stating my opinion based on what I know and have seen.
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
I'm not at liberty to expose the whole industry's dirty little secrets. I was simply stating my opinion based on what I know and have seen.
If I remember correctly, it was something about a cute kitten or bunny being killed for every time a someone buys a VISP. Kitten or bunny being based on the industry's discretion.
I'm not at the liberty to expose the dirty little secret of how that is chosen though.
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I'd rather ride a VISP

edit: okay who played with my sig
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I also saw these in person at the chrome party in LA for the marathon crash. they look pretty good actually
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i don't like cats. maybe i'll buy a visp and hope they choose kitten.
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
I know a little bit about where/how those frames are made and personally, I wouldn't ride one if it was free.

Fun fact: the "smooth welds" don't look like that in real life.
I saw this and thought it was relevant here.

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Old 06-18-13, 05:11 PM
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Order one and see if you get those nice welds.
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Originally Posted by JeremyLC
I saw this and thought it was relevant here.

The accent over the o in Aventón makes it so classy.
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
Order one and see if you get those nice welds.
Even if the welds are truly nice, the non-butted tubing and steel steerer are still going to make it a boat anchor. Like my VISP is 2.4 pounds heavier than my Leader 721, and the Leader frame is not particularly light either.
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Sorry for the off-topic question.. But what's wrong with the Specialized Langster Pro?
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Sorry for the off-topic question.. But what's wrong with the Specialized Langster Pro?
Wonky geometry and a proprietary seat post.

Just preferences.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
Even if the welds are truly nice, the non-butted tubing and steel steerer are still going to make it a boat anchor. Like my VISP is 2.4 pounds heavier than my Leader 721, and the Leader frame is not particularly light either.
30 seconds in they claim it is double butted, as does the Aventon website. I'm curious how good these actually are, but not $349 worth of curious.


They give the weights as 3.75lbs for the frame and 1.2lbs for the fork, also.
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Originally Posted by JeremyLC
30 seconds in they claim it is double butted, as does the Aventon website. I'm curious how good these actually are, but not $349 worth of curious.


They give the weights as 3.75lbs for the frame and 1.2lbs for the fork, also.
I knew that fork was a boat anchor.

With a quality full carbon fork, that could be a near 2000g frameset.
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I don't know that I'd call a 540g fork a "boat anchor".
Also, that leader full carbon fork is advertised at .4lbs.......which is 181g....
it's lighter than an s-works fork? And a ritchey wcs fork?
Hard to believe that fork weighs less than a set of wcs superlogic or enve drop bars.....!!
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Originally Posted by johnnytheboy
I don't know that I'd call a 540g fork a "boat anchor".
Also, that leader full carbon fork is advertised at .4lbs.......which is 181g....
it's lighter than an s-works fork? And a ritchey wcs fork?
Hard to believe that fork weighs less than a set of wcs superlogic or enve drop bars.....!!
I have the Leader i806TR full carbon fork and yes Mildred it really is that light.
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Originally Posted by johnnytheboy
I don't know that I'd call a 540g fork a "boat anchor".
Also, that leader full carbon fork is advertised at .4lbs.......which is 181g....
it's lighter than an s-works fork? And a ritchey wcs fork?
Hard to believe that fork weighs less than a set of wcs superlogic or enve drop bars.....!!
It can't. That's has to be a typo. That would make it the lightest fork on the market, and a bargain at 350.

But yeah, when nice carbon forks run ~320g, 540g is a boat anchor.

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^hence my skepticism.
I hate that some people are so jaded that a ~500g fork is considered "heavy".
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Originally Posted by johnnytheboy
^hence my skepticism.
I hate that some people are so jaded that a ~500g fork is considered "heavy".
Jaded sure is a funny word for it. The fact that 500g is heavy for a road fork isn't my decision.
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It's not so much that 500g is heavy for a road fork, as it is that 320g is light for a road fork.
i'd just about guarantee that there's more forks on the market they weigh more than 500g than there are that weigh less than that.
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Originally Posted by johnnytheboy
It's not so much that 500g is heavy for a road fork, as it is that 320g is light for a road fork.
i'd just about guarantee that there's more forks on the market they weigh more than 500g than there are that weigh less than that.
I would also guarantee that more crap is sold than good stuff.
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Originally Posted by Nagrom_
It can't. That's has to be a typo.
You calling me a liar. I have one dude, you don't. I weighed it on a very accurate scale. It's really that light. Get over it.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
You calling me a liar. I have one dude, you don't. I weighed it on a very accurate scale. It's really that light. Get over it.
I would love to see a picture of it on the scale. I just can't believe it's that light.
And if it is, I'll get one for all my track bikes that it fits on.

There are literally thousand dollar boutique road forks that are nearly a hundred grams heavier.
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Originally Posted by Nagrom_
I would also guarantee that more crap is sold than good stuff.
Wow.

You heard it here first, guys!
Not only is your 500g+ fork heavy, ​but its crap too!

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