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I ran into another board member at Ttown this weekend and asked if he knew Queerpunk. I know he's been there while I was officiating during the UCI races, but I've never met him in person... that is unless I didn't realize it was him.
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I stop racing on the track (or riding completely for a while) and you guys give up on my thread.
Shame. I don't see any race reports in the track area at all, at least on the first page. These were my favorites to read, and great places to learn stuff.
Shame. I don't see any race reports in the track area at all, at least on the first page. These were my favorites to read, and great places to learn stuff.
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Perhaps everyone is just too busy doing actual racing? It has been pretty quiet on here of late. For myself, I've been doing TT's and TS's almost exclusively for a few years now, and those do not make riveting reads, generally.
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Hey, I did my first Keirin last weekend. Although nothing to report but that them dang young fella's from Atlanta are quick!
Shoutout to @topflightpro riding behind me yelling at what I'm doing wrong giving advice.
Shoutout to @topflightpro riding behind me
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Wow, the concrete has weathered..interestingly at Rock Hill. Is it just the photo?
When I was there when it opened and for a year or two after it looked super uniform.
Is it just visual or is it actually bumpy like it looks?
When I was there when it opened and for a year or two after it looked super uniform.
Is it just visual or is it actually bumpy like it looks?
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Not as bad as it looks, but the track is definitely not as smooth as it used to be. Coming out of t1/2 I feel a lot more bounce/shudder than I did a few years ago.
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That's a shame. I figured it would stay smoother longer than that. It was beautiful when it opened.
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Who is going to the Fred C. Rehberger Memorial Northwest Track Cycling Championships, Freds Race ?
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Results for the 2019 Pan Am Games Track events can be found here:
https://www.lima2019.pe/en/results
Click on the event to show results.
https://www.lima2019.pe/en/results
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Ok, I just posted about how track time trials are too boring to write about, but I just had a pretty big breakthrough, and being nearly 51 I thought it might be encouraging for older riders to see this.
On Saturday I did a 11.382 200 tt, and my previous best was 11.65. That ride was nearly 10 years ago, and for the past several years I've never gone below 11.7. I was shocked and amazed! Sadly I didn't qualify as they were only taking the top 8 and this was an elite race (fastest time 10.4, slowest qualifier 11.0).
Then yesterday I did a 1:09.6 kilo. With a sub-par 500 time (36.2) and having lost my mind and driven over 4-5 sponges, I now feel a 1:08 is not out of the question. At 50 years old. This is my third 1:09, and my best is a 1:09.2, but that was at Colorado Springs, a super high altitude and fast track (Carleton was there). So this was my best ever kilo outside of the CS ride.
So take heart, old people of track cycling! You CAN get faster, even though biology says you are on the downward spiral. Get it!
On Saturday I did a 11.382 200 tt, and my previous best was 11.65. That ride was nearly 10 years ago, and for the past several years I've never gone below 11.7. I was shocked and amazed! Sadly I didn't qualify as they were only taking the top 8 and this was an elite race (fastest time 10.4, slowest qualifier 11.0).
Then yesterday I did a 1:09.6 kilo. With a sub-par 500 time (36.2) and having lost my mind and driven over 4-5 sponges, I now feel a 1:08 is not out of the question. At 50 years old. This is my third 1:09, and my best is a 1:09.2, but that was at Colorado Springs, a super high altitude and fast track (Carleton was there). So this was my best ever kilo outside of the CS ride.
So take heart, old people of track cycling! You CAN get faster, even though biology says you are on the downward spiral. Get it!
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Ok, I just posted about how track time trials are too boring to write about, but I just had a pretty big breakthrough, and being nearly 51 I thought it might be encouraging for older riders to see this.
On Saturday I did a 11.382 200 tt, and my previous best was 11.65. That ride was nearly 10 years ago, and for the past several years I've never gone below 11.7. I was shocked and amazed! Sadly I didn't qualify as they were only taking the top 8 and this was an elite race (fastest time 10.4, slowest qualifier 11.0).
Then yesterday I did a 1:09.6 kilo. With a sub-par 500 time (36.2) and having lost my mind and driven over 4-5 sponges, I now feel a 1:08 is not out of the question. At 50 years old. This is my third 1:09, and my best is a 1:09.2, but that was at Colorado Springs, a super high altitude and fast track (Carleton was there). So this was my best ever kilo outside of the CS ride.
So take heart, old people of track cycling! You CAN get faster, even though biology says you are on the downward spiral. Get it!
On Saturday I did a 11.382 200 tt, and my previous best was 11.65. That ride was nearly 10 years ago, and for the past several years I've never gone below 11.7. I was shocked and amazed! Sadly I didn't qualify as they were only taking the top 8 and this was an elite race (fastest time 10.4, slowest qualifier 11.0).
Then yesterday I did a 1:09.6 kilo. With a sub-par 500 time (36.2) and having lost my mind and driven over 4-5 sponges, I now feel a 1:08 is not out of the question. At 50 years old. This is my third 1:09, and my best is a 1:09.2, but that was at Colorado Springs, a super high altitude and fast track (Carleton was there). So this was my best ever kilo outside of the CS ride.
So take heart, old people of track cycling! You CAN get faster, even though biology says you are on the downward spiral. Get it!
250m track? Any "different from regular" setup, like big gears, etc.? Are you at top point of training session this year?
I have powermeter data from 2006 to now 2019, training and racing - reliable Powertaps data - and going from 44 to 61 years old didn't take any watt from me, instead of it, changing to train less volume, more variable and more HIT gave me better numbers in some time durations on the last years - of course, "horizontally" I'm going faster than my old - when we were young - adversaries.
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Over the last three years or so I've belatedly embraced the concept of bigger gears and I think it's now paying off. My previous PRs for both 200 and kilo were on a 94" gear (49/14), very old-school. The 200 I just did was on 106" (51/13) and the kilo on 104" (50/13). I realize even these are not huge by contemporary standards and I'm willing to keep experimenting, though I think I'm close to the tipping point with the kilo gear as far as difficulty starting vs. improved efficiency in the last lap.
Also I have to say the general concepts I learned as part of Lee Povey's Performance Cycle coaching team, as well as training with his riders (namely Ethan and Ken), taught me a lot about what kind of training efforts to prioritize and how to sequence them around the limitations of daily life.
So I guess the take-aways for me are: Training knowledge (and especially tailoring training to real-life to avoid burn-out) + perseverance with moving to bigger gears = some pretty nice improvements.
Now if they would only let me race in their masters nationals here I'd be in business!
Edit: Sorry, I forgot: it's an outdoor 333 track, but with proper banking (~35˚) and very smooth. It's also at a little bit of altitude, and I've found my times to be the same at the 250 at Izu, which I would equivalent to Carson. Japanese tracks are fantastic.
Edit #2 : I've also been riding a new frame this year, which is 2cm longer, and I've been making a conscious effort to improve my position aerodynamically (this was also a biggie stressed by Lee). Could be a factor.
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You're the second person I know to post comments about the ability to improve as we age. It's giving me a lot of hope, though I doubt I'll ever beat Ethan or Ken.
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Results for the 2019 Pan Am Games Track events can be found here:
https://www.lima2019.pe/en/results
Click on the event to show results.
https://www.lima2019.pe/en/results
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Men's Omnium - Gold - Dan Holloway
Women's Team Pursuit - Gold
Men's Team Pursuit - Gold
Women's Omnium - Gold- Jenifer Valente
Women's Madison - Gold
Men's Madison - Silver
I think these results qualify some riders for next years Olympic Games.
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Rode my 2nd track race of the year, the NC/SC Regional Championships. It was an omnium for me, not a format that I really like, but it allowed me some track time before nationals. They did a really good job of promoting the finals -- they had spectators, a beer tent, food truck -- I really recommend it and it was promoted by Michael Barman who helps run the Dicklane races. Good cash primes for all categories! If it hadn't clashed with Atlanta's Velodrome Cup (a really great event) it could have been even better. There was even a good sized women's field for Rock Hill (5 or 6), juniors, and a good showing of masters and 3/4 racers -- with riders traveling from at least Georgia, Tennessee, and Virginia.
The racing, itself, was pretty challenging for me. Having gone down twice in the past month (resulting road rash, a minor separated shoulder, and soft tissue damage to the hand and wrist), riding the track bike was really no fun. My current position is extremely nose heavy and requires a lot of upper body strength -- consequently it hurt to even warm up so I spent most of the time sitting if I wasn't racing.
Scratch: (52x16) The racing at Rock Hill has gotten faster this year, thank primarily to a critical mass of "fast" riders who have started to come out and with an injection of some good collegiate riders. In the Scratch, Clayton Travis, who rides for VT and Kreitler, kept the pace high by taking some enormous yanks at the front. When the speed dropped below 48, a collegiate rider from Lees McRae spun off the front in an 88 gear -- serious leg speed! 4 to go, 2 riders rocket off the front. 2 to go everything is fracturing. I surge up to them with 1.5 to go. But when I try to launch, my hand wasn't having it and I hop the front wheel. So I rode it in behind a wall of riders for a disappointing 4th.
Elimination: (50x16) This event is challenging for me even on the best of days and my preferred tactic is riding point or 2nd wheel. Today they actually started us on the whistle from the fence and I had to play the devil -- which is a bad play for me. Made no tactical mistakes, but just got tired from the repeated sprints and ended up 4th.
Points Race: (51x16) Clayton Travis put on a show and rolled away from us near the end. He doesn't have the huge top end, but really good pursuit style speed and a huge engine. We were single file going 48-49, and he pretty much lapped us. I was pretty much on the limit right away -- all the racing in a funky upright position had cracked me -- and I could tell going for any points would pretty much be the end of my race. So I saved it for double points final, and slogged a really slow sit down sprint which I somehow held off. Ending up another 4th.
So ultimately, ended up scraping together a 3rd in the state championships after removing the real winner, Clayton Travis, who was out of state. So I give this restaurant 2 out of 5 stars!
Other notes: the life span of a rear Vittoria Pista Speed for me is apparently 2 races at ADT, 3 races at T-Town, and 3 race days at Rock Hill. At my weight (56) and being nose heavy I thought it would last a little longer, but now I'm guessing that I'm probably minutely spinning / sliding the rear a little more than most riders.
The racing, itself, was pretty challenging for me. Having gone down twice in the past month (resulting road rash, a minor separated shoulder, and soft tissue damage to the hand and wrist), riding the track bike was really no fun. My current position is extremely nose heavy and requires a lot of upper body strength -- consequently it hurt to even warm up so I spent most of the time sitting if I wasn't racing.
Scratch: (52x16) The racing at Rock Hill has gotten faster this year, thank primarily to a critical mass of "fast" riders who have started to come out and with an injection of some good collegiate riders. In the Scratch, Clayton Travis, who rides for VT and Kreitler, kept the pace high by taking some enormous yanks at the front. When the speed dropped below 48, a collegiate rider from Lees McRae spun off the front in an 88 gear -- serious leg speed! 4 to go, 2 riders rocket off the front. 2 to go everything is fracturing. I surge up to them with 1.5 to go. But when I try to launch, my hand wasn't having it and I hop the front wheel. So I rode it in behind a wall of riders for a disappointing 4th.
Elimination: (50x16) This event is challenging for me even on the best of days and my preferred tactic is riding point or 2nd wheel. Today they actually started us on the whistle from the fence and I had to play the devil -- which is a bad play for me. Made no tactical mistakes, but just got tired from the repeated sprints and ended up 4th.
Points Race: (51x16) Clayton Travis put on a show and rolled away from us near the end. He doesn't have the huge top end, but really good pursuit style speed and a huge engine. We were single file going 48-49, and he pretty much lapped us. I was pretty much on the limit right away -- all the racing in a funky upright position had cracked me -- and I could tell going for any points would pretty much be the end of my race. So I saved it for double points final, and slogged a really slow sit down sprint which I somehow held off. Ending up another 4th.
So ultimately, ended up scraping together a 3rd in the state championships after removing the real winner, Clayton Travis, who was out of state. So I give this restaurant 2 out of 5 stars!
Other notes: the life span of a rear Vittoria Pista Speed for me is apparently 2 races at ADT, 3 races at T-Town, and 3 race days at Rock Hill. At my weight (56) and being nose heavy I thought it would last a little longer, but now I'm guessing that I'm probably minutely spinning / sliding the rear a little more than most riders.
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^ Wait, do we know each other irl @tobukog and I just didn't realize it?
Also "raced" The RH series this weekend.
10" into the scratch (turn1) a fellow clipped a pedal, taking down a few of us. Chopped up my ear and banged up my shoulder (no doctor visit yet... hoping it's not too bad) took a little time to collect myself / bandage up / make sure the bike was sound... back in the win&out... took it pretty easy towards the back as I wasn't 100% sure of my shoulder, took a long flyer/solo tt for 4th. Still a bit of sketchy riding happening (3/4 race) in the points race... put a big effort in for the prime, then sat up and pulled out.
Saturday couldn't get into aero position for the timed events. Arm held out ok for regular drops though. Did a (mediocre - didn't really want to push my luck) flying 200 and sat out the match sprints since it would have meant some of us had to do a 3 man. (odd number)
Afterwards myself and @topflightpro were going to do a match for fun... he rolled his tire in t3 and unfortunately broke his clavicle (and maybe more?) - keep him in your thoughts :/
Not a great weekend unfortunately
Also "raced" The RH series this weekend.
10" into the scratch (turn1) a fellow clipped a pedal, taking down a few of us. Chopped up my ear and banged up my shoulder (no doctor visit yet... hoping it's not too bad) took a little time to collect myself / bandage up / make sure the bike was sound... back in the win&out... took it pretty easy towards the back as I wasn't 100% sure of my shoulder, took a long flyer/solo tt for 4th. Still a bit of sketchy riding happening (3/4 race) in the points race... put a big effort in for the prime, then sat up and pulled out.
Saturday couldn't get into aero position for the timed events. Arm held out ok for regular drops though. Did a (mediocre - didn't really want to push my luck) flying 200 and sat out the match sprints since it would have meant some of us had to do a 3 man. (odd number)
Afterwards myself and @topflightpro were going to do a match for fun... he rolled his tire in t3 and unfortunately broke his clavicle (and maybe more?) - keep him in your thoughts :/
Not a great weekend unfortunately