t2p

and the bike between ‘more than’‘ and ‘less than’ ?

Sentinel1

Pedals tend to average 350 grams a pair. Or about 0.8LBS. I once had a budget folder and each pedal weighed an amazing 1.2lbs. So that was the easiest upgrade to knock 1.8lbs of weight off the bike.

Eric F 

Some folks just enjoy the experience of riding a lightweight machine.

Also, top-level pro bikes aren't all bumping against the UCI weight limit. Testing is proving that aero is more important than light weight. Obviously, there's a tipping point where weight starts to become a hinderance, but within the framework high-end road bikes, being lightest isn't always fastest.

indyfabz

Only serviceable one is a Bike Friday NWT. I haven't ridden it in years. It's now serves as my backup, ride-around-town bike. Not having a top tube is really annoying, but I bought it way back in the mid-2000s when I was forced to work a few days/week in another state. The idea was that if the weather turned bad I could toss it in the trunk of a co-worker and at least get a ride to the train station to get back across the river. Have no idea what it weighs.

VegasJen

Exactly as I ride it, including my toolkit, 20.1 pounds. 2015 Shiv

Sentinel1

I'm not saying a light bike isn't good. But there's a point where it can go too far. My lightest bike is a Tern verge X10. Weighs 21lbs with pedals on. And it's plenty light enough for me. Especially with supreme components like Kinetix pro X wheels and American classic hubs which are second to none. Wheels spin forever.

But I will give you an example where I think its taken too far. There's a channel on YouTube called BFT (Brompton family time) Now I love the channel. But this guy pays $5000 for a Tline Brompton. Expensive enough. And it weighs like 17.5lbs. Which is plenty light. Well he spent another $4,500 enough to nearly buy another one. Just to knock the weight down to 15.5lbs. That to me was an insane waste of money. The bike was already ultra light. Especially by Brompton standards.

smd4

So what’s the problem? Who are you to judge what’s “plenty light?” He had the money and spent the money as he saw fit.

Eric F 

A bit over a year ago, I bought a my first gravel bike for $1200 (used). It was built with 11-speed Ultegra, and some other decent parts. Overall, it was a pretty good deal. Pretty quickly, I started swapping parts, including spending more money for new wheels than I spent on the entire bike to start with. My swapping got to the point where the only original thing was the frame...then I bought a new frame. I could build my original bike back to how it was when I first bought it. Was it a waste of money? Maybe. Or, maybe not. Sure, it would have been cheaper just to build up my current bike to start with. However, I didn't know what I didn't know. Some of my swapping was weight related, some of it was performance related, some of it was I-want-that related. Without a starting point, I had no frame of reference to determine my own preferences for a gravel bike. Part of my enjoyment of bicycles is working on them, and fine-tuning the build to suit my personal preferences. I don't generally build my bikes to be as absolutely light as possible, but the weight of the parts I buy is always part of the decision, because I enjoy the feeling of a light bicycle. At the end of it, I don't care about anyone else's opinion on how I spent my money, because it's my money to do with as I see fit.

mstateglfr 

Sentinel1

I'm giving my opinion that's all. I was on another thread where people were going in on me for spending £2,400 on a bike. While not realising others spend more than that just on upgrades.

rdf37

We all have our own opinions on weight and our own reasons for concern or no concern. There is not a right or wrong. There are pros and cons to each side and to judge others on their opinion is just plain wrong. While weight can be very important on the competition side of things, many of us are not racing pro or even racing period anymore so even though we may like light, it is not as important as just riding the bike and enjoying it. Ride and enjoy! Ride light and enjoy! Ride heavy and enjoy! Ride old and enjoy! Ride young and enjoy! Ride race and enjoy! Ride relax and enjoy! Just ride!
rdf37

Maelochs

You Only spent £2,400???!!! What's wrong with you??

Maelochs

Of course, 2400 pounds is a little heavy for a bike ......

rdf37

And there we o!!! This is the exact kind of humor that makes me love this forum so much.....As a past die hard cyclist that is now older and broken, I learned the hard way how much "specifics" can take away the thrill of riding! As the old proverb goes.....""Bike riding is to serious to take serious" Gotta love it! Gotta be passionate about it....but most of all...well, you know the rest
rdf37

Eric F 

Wait...what?? Bike riding is supposed to be enjoyable??? No one told me this. I thought bike riding was about seeing who can suffer the most.

Barry2 

You are correct... Cycling is about suffering.
I purchased a light bike and made my wallet suffer !

Barry

wayold

My endurance road bike weighed an acceptable, but not particularly light, 19 lb. when I bought it. This was in minimum rideable condition (i.e. with pedals, but without accessories). $500 later with a cheap set of Carbon wheels it weighed 18 lbs, but the actual weight at which I ride it (including, pump, computer, lights, radar, saddle bag with tube and tools) is 20.2 lb. Kinda makes being a weight weenie seem a bit pointless.

That said, my new gravel bike weighed an even 22 lbs when I bought it, and $2K later it weighs a bit under 18 (and will undoubtedly weigh over 20 again when I lard it up with all the accessories for gravel riding). Some folks just don't ever learn.

Sentinel1

It is until you understand its my only transport. I don't own a car. And rarely use public transport. So over the years the X11 paid for itself many times over. So I wanted one of the best. A quality super efficient bike. And got one.

Mojo31

2020 Domane SL5 (with lots of upgrades) size 56 - 20.4 pounds.

2023 Emonda SL6 (with some upgrades) - 18.8 pounds.

Both are 12-speed Di2.

Those are as ridden weights with saddle bags, computers, etc.

Eric F 

I think you missed the joke.

Fredo76

After a 22 1/2 pound first build with my old racing wheels and no extras, Fredo currently weighs 26.6 pounds geezerized and ready to roll, with my old training wheels with 28mm clinchers and a somewhat redundant toolkit with CO2 and a pump, sealant and a spare tube, a multi tool plus a couple wrenches, valve core tool, a 5.5 mm or 7/32" allen key for my oddball seat bolt. Plus three bottle cages, a speedometer and a rear light. The extras add up.

Blue Bella was 24 lbs with no extras and will probably gain a couple with.

With a 53" wheelbase, my brother's Clem Smith Jr weighed about 28 lbs with a kickstand and a rack and an empty bag. Stuff in the bag, including a lock, adds 2 or 3 more pounds, depending. His new CK wheels and 48mm Barlow Pass tires are heavier and slower than the 35mm Terra Speeds it had before, but are plusher, no doubt.

A lot of respondents are obviously proud of their un-laden bicycle's low weight, but did not answer the OP's question, which was about the weight with the extras as ridden, except for water in the bottles.

The Jamis Citizen 1 is 32 lbs with rack, kickstand, and empty bag, and (red) Bella about 27 lbs with the same. Pumps, tools and spares add a couple more, depending.

Sentinel1

Oh someone made a funny. Excuse me while I do my Eddie Murphy laughing fit impression from the Nutty Professor.

NVFlinch 

Serotta Legend, 17lbs 9 oz. with saddle and pedals. BUT, the Brooks saddle is going on today, so that will add 11 lbs or so

Maelochs

See, in the United kingdom, they weigh their money ... and calculate by pounds ... see ... and in the Ununited Kingdom of States, we weigh everything else and sell it by the pound ... much as Genesis suggested (Wait, I thought they were an English group ... shouldn't they be part of the United Kingdom?)- (I need to see if Genesis was right-hand drive, I guess ... .))

Maelochs

When people tell me about their "15.8 lb." or whatever bike ... I know it would weigh one or two pounds more if I rode it because I bring tools, tubes, a phone or computer (phone lately) plus at least one head- and tail light. Still waiting on someone to volunteer to shadow me in a support vehicle at my call and at no charge.