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Old 10-04-07, 06:49 PM
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Motorpacing

Anyone have someone motorpace them? Just got my dad to pace me today for 7 miles @ ~28-30mph.
When we were done, I decided to ride another 10 miles and do a few climbs, I felt really good, nice and warmed up, better than I've ever felt in a training ride.

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Yeah, I've motorpaced a couple of times and it's ******** hard, but also exhilirating. I think it would be perfect to find someone to motorpace you at 30mph for 30 minutes once a week.
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Do it on the track
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The first time I've ever gotten a cramp in my side since I was a fat-kid was tonight. That was tough.
Holding a draft for a minute or two at 40mph is easier since you're just on self destruct, but when you're holding 30 (I just checked, we were at 35mph, the speed limit, for a while too) for miles, it does hurt.

My breathing was suffering more than my legs, they weren't even burning.
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At speed of 10 mph, a rider is using 30% of his effort to overcome wind resistance.
The best draft I've gotten was behind a landscaping trailer with a mesh metal ramp that was folded up.. you could see through the ramp for upcoming traffic pattern and travel at speeds beyond your capability.. the vacuum effect actually suck you forward towards the vehicle.

If you really want to minimize aerodynamic drag while riding, try a recumbent (with or without fairing).
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I probably should have had my dad drive my moms brick-wall-shaped Jeep instead of my speedwagon, since I think it's a little bit more streamlined than the Jeep.
Complete with the Quickstep decal, The Speedwagon Baby-Slayer

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Yeah you need to be going faster than 30 to get a good motor pacing session in, especially behind a car.

I've done 40 behind a car for a while, not so bad. 30-35 behind a dude sitting very upright on a motorscooter. It's the little accelerations and rises in the road that really get you, though. Stuff you would barely notice clipping along in a 20 minute interval suddenly becomes the thing that could make or break you, as you can come dangerously close to slipping out of the draft.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
Anyone have someone motorpace them? Just got my dad to pace me today for 7 miles @ ~28-30mph.
When we were done, I decided to ride another 10 miles and do a few climbs, I felt really good, nice and warmed up, better than I've ever felt in a training ride.

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hmm... well I've drafted busses and dumptrucks if that counts for anything. busses area alright, the dump truck had a load on it though, stunk pretty bad.

I guess I did have a guy "pace" me once, but he was bringing riders up from behind, I sat in for a couple minutes then got bored and went around him and pulled for a bit (the little corolla needed the help).

It would be fun for a warm-up though. I see it now:

me: "honey, wanna go for a ride?"
wife: "sure!"
me: "get in the car and hold it at 40"
**slap**
me: "ow! what was that for?"
wife: "if you don't know i'm not gonna tell you."
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been discussed on here lots.
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You've actually gotten that Isuzu Rodeo up to 28 mph?

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Best done behind a motorcycle. Will make you much faster. Very fun on the track! Has been the topic of a few good threads here.
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Some of the best times I've ever had on the bike were behind a motor at high speeds. Then attacking and passing them. Then getting back on the wheel when it comes around you at a steady speed.

there is no better way to prepare for the speed and pain of racing than to motorpace.

Better yet, put two riders behind the bike, and be the second one in line. OUCH.

But you need a driver you trust thoroughly.
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Believe it or not, the best pacer around here is my 59 year old mother. She's done it for so long, she has hand signals, speeds up going into big corners (and then waits on the other side) and has figured out how to accelerate with us behind the SUV.
I'm trying to talk het into riding the scooter, but she said she's more comfortable pacing us behind my truck...
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Yes.

It's pretty fun putting black stripes on their rear bumper with your front tire. You can make patterns and stuff. We had a guy on the team with a white work van that took pretty nicely to the stripes

These days, I just snag onto loaded big trucks. It's not nearly as long as I'd like, but it's really challenging, and usually I get popped off as they near cruising speed, but it's good for some fun.

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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
Yeah you need to be going faster than 30 to get a good motor pacing session in, especially behind a car.

I've done 40 behind a car for a while, not so bad. 30-35 behind a dude sitting very upright on a motorscooter. It's the little accelerations and rises in the road that really get you, though. Stuff you would barely notice clipping along in a 20 minute interval suddenly becomes the thing that could make or break you, as you can come dangerously close to slipping out of the draft.
Yeah, I probably should have gone faster, but it was my dads first time pacing me, and I didn't get more than 4-5 feet away from the bumper, where the prime draft is. Plus, it was getting dark anyways, and it was 17 miles back home, so I said thanks and let him go.
I do want to integrate this into my training, because my legs felt great going home.

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You've actually gotten that Isuzu Rodeo up to 28 mph?
I've gotten it to 108mph before it flattened out, and it's a Honda! I don't want no Chevrolet nameplate being tacked onto my car!
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these are my favorite things to motorpace off of.



while they usually have a speed limit of 45 km/h, they generally go faster. the height is near perfect drafting, but leaving you with full visibility.
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Better yet, put two riders behind the bike, and be the second one in line. OUCH.
Or be the 20th, then the 19th, 18th , 17th, 16th, 15th as the riders in front of you "pop" and you have to sprint like a madman to cover the gaps. The end of a line this long will really yo-yo in speed even on a flat straight course. You just have to hope that when you latch back on the line isn't accelerating again otherwise your sprint just got a bit longer than planned for.
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I have a 300+ lb 6'3" brother in law with a Vento scooter. If i could pull him away from WOW for a hour or so on Sundays, i could get into this motorpacing.
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Originally Posted by FatguyRacer
I have a 300+ lb 6'3" brother in law with a Vento scooter. If i could pull him away from WOW for a hour or so on Sundays, i could get into this motorpacing.
have you ever smelled a career WOW player? You sure you wanna draft back there?
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
have you ever smelled a career WOW player? You sure you wanna draft back there?
Smell one? Hells bells mang, he's been living at my house for the last year since my Mother in Law passed from cancer. The least he can do for all the meals and clean clothes is motorpace me once a week!

Actually, he's OK and he'd probably do it if i ask him.
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I motorpace on my way to work.
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Yea. I made my brother get on his motorcycle and motorpace for me. I even made him hand me a water bottle so I could feel cool.

I have only done it a couple of times but it takes some practice getting the driver to be familiar with speeds, accelerations, turns, ect.
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Originally Posted by mollusk
Or be the 20th, then the 19th, 18th , 17th, 16th, 15th as the riders in front of you "pop" and you have to sprint like a madman to cover the gaps. The end of a line this long will really yo-yo in speed even on a flat straight course. You just have to hope that when you latch back on the line isn't accelerating again otherwise your sprint just got a bit longer than planned for.
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
Yes.

It's pretty fun putting black stripes on their rear bumper with your front tire. You can make patterns and stuff.

Like zees?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-U9FsTooV4
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