werksmini

Ive heard that these were just rebadged deep v's? Either way my question is if the stickers come off easily? I just picked up a set but I know that im going to try and take them off.

Anyone have any pictures of them mounted either?

Thanks!

Patriot

I did.

And yes, they come off if you peel them slowly.

Mike_Like_Bike

How do you like them? The wheels...

the beef

I don't think they're rebadged Deep Vs, as far as I know. They're really light: ~1500g per set. I have a pair, and I like them a lot. Oh wait, I'm selling a pair... (see sig)

I can't use them any more because I switched from Campy to Shimano. I honestly prefer the XR-1s a LOT to my my new Shimano-hub Bontrager Race Lites, though.

Strong Bad

These are as good as canned light weight clinchers get (unless you are a light weight and willing to build them yourself).
If you are a clyde, then they are probably too light.
XERO XLR1

Psydotek

They have the same dimensions as Velocity Deep-V rims but they are not the same (i've got the XR1s on my road bike and Deep-Vs on the commuter and fixed gear).

That being said, i really like the Xeros, relatively inexpensive and lightweight for the deep(er) section rim and i've used them for everything from racing, climbing, training, and rec rides. However, if you consider yourself a heavier rider, you'll probably want to look at other options with a higher spoke count.

dahoss2002

I own 2 sets now. One shimano and one Campy.The shimano set is still true after 2000 miles including 2 centuries and 2 metric centuries. The website says, "We offer the finest craftsmanship in our wheels, our process includes : Lacing , tensioning ,dishing, stress-relieving and final truing to as close to perfect as possible.

We only sell wheels that we would put on our own bikes." I do believe this because mine have been trouble free so far and I still weigh above 200 and was about 210 for most of the miles. I just recently bought a Campy compatible set for my new bike build heres a pic of them .

steveCT

I put just over 2,000 miles on my XR-1's this year. The wheels are great, very light and rolls nicely. My friend checked the wheels about 1,200 miles in and found no issues with trueness or tension. I hit my fair share of potholes and what not. Like the others have said, they are light and cheap. I weight 175 lb.

Steve

werksmini

Thanks guys. For those with success did you have them tensioned or tension them yourselves before you started riding?

Hoss, please adjust those bars

steveCT

I tensioned the spokes after 200 miles of riding. I think the reason is to let the spokes "settled"

Steve

Patriot

Best thing I found helps, is when you get a new set, place a super tiny drop of oil on each nipple where it penetrates the rim. (DO NOT PUT OIL ON THE SPOKE THREADS). This allows it to settle easily into place when riding the first time, and helps minimize that ever so annoying pinging sound heard when they haven't been tension beforehand.

The Xero hub bearings are known for being a bit stiff compared to high end wheels. The don't roll as freely out of the box. However, after riding several hundred miles, mine are worn in quite well, and roll much more freely now. Not as smooth or freely as my Rolf Elans.

But then, for $900, the Rolf's better roll like an over unity machine, or I would beat someone to death for my money back.

My Xero's were obviously not tensioned, and pinged now and then for the first 100mi, but have since settled they are still true after 2000mi. Not bad for a $230 wheelset. I like them so much, I bought another set for my wifes bike. They are quite the slick looking wheel for the money too. The new decals are much nicer than the older ones.

operator

Pinging is not a reseult of "not tensioned". Not lubing the spoke thread is also a 10000% bad idea. The pinging you hear comes from spoke wind DURING the tensioning process. All it means is that it wasn't relieved, either because it was machine built or because it wasn't done properly by a person.

A properly built wheel should not significantly lose tension or trueness after riding.

Patriot

^^^^ Exactly. I should have said they weren't "relieved after tensioning". Is that better? A tiny drop of oil on the nipple allows for it to "unrotate" or "untwist" when you ride it without all the noise. That's all it does. Just helps aleviate the noise. It has no other effect. I only mentioned doing it if the noise bothers some people. I have definitely found it to help.

As I said, DO NOT PUT OIL ON THE SPOKE THREADS. They are already tensioned and set with spoke prep. Oiling them is pointless.

operator

How do you know this?

Patriot

^^^ I asked Xero wheels from their website when first researching the wheels two years ago. Using spoke prep on spoke threads is now pretty much the standard in the industry for any wheels with less than 28 spokes to help minimize loss of high tension on low spoke count wheels.


Of course, they could have lied. Have you taken apart a set of Xero wheels to see if they used spoke prep on the threads? I haven't, so I'll be gullible enough to believe it when they tell me.

operator

Yep, I was just curious. I don't have any experience either way to tell if they are b.s'ing or not.

Patriot

Granted my response was sarcastic to say the least. That said, since they have stayed very true for over 2000mi now (about 0.5mm off now), I would be arrogant enough to make an educated guess that they did in fact use spoke prep.

EdZ

I have about 10K miles on my set. I never had to true them so far. The bearings in the hubs do suck pretty bad however, so I only train on them.

dahoss2002

I rode mine out of the box and they are still true. Is it the angle of my bars or the height? I ride in the drops alot and that angle feels best to me. I will lower the stem height as my gut shrinks and allows me to..LOL....

MasterOMayhem

whats a good price on these?

Pharmr

do you think 185lbs is to heavy for these wheels??

Patriot

^^^ No. I weigh 175lbs, and they have plenty of room to spare. I've read on here guy s who weigh over 200lbs and have no problems.

dahoss2002

No way!!!!!!!!!!!

TCR

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