Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Advancements in Handlebar Wrapping

Search
Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Advancements in Handlebar Wrapping

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-11-17, 08:21 PM
  #1  
oldschool56
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 87

Bikes: 2016 Trek 1.2

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Advancements in Handlebar Wrapping

The last time I wrapped handlebars was over 35 years ago. Back then as I remember there were basically three choices, cloth, plastic or leather. Boy, have things changed. After reading several threads about gel pads, today I installed Specialized Bar Phat Gel Pads on my 1.2 Trek and re-wrapped with the existing cork tape. The cork is very malleable making re-use no problem. The existing creases made getting the tape started at the bar ends a cinch and my hands will greatly appreciate the additional cushioning provided by the gel. Instead of using the gel pads on the drops, I installed them on top of the top bar pads for added thickness. The tackiness of the pads allow them to stick to each other and to the bars, preventing slippage during wrapping. I slightly adjusted the cables wrapped under the tape upward, increasing the top width of the bar just enough to make a difference but not interfering with cable length/clearance during steering. The initial feel and fit is exceptional. This coming week I'll be testing it out on a 50+ mile route. We'll see.
oldschool56 is offline  
Old 03-11-17, 09:02 PM
  #2  
Doge
Senior Member
 
Doge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Southern California, USA
Posts: 10,475

Bikes: 1979 Raleigh Team 753

Mentioned: 153 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3375 Post(s)
Liked 371 Times in 253 Posts
You can get real good cushioning with carbon bars and thin tape.
Doge is offline  
Old 03-11-17, 09:11 PM
  #3  
rpenmanparker 
Senior Member
 
rpenmanparker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 28,682

Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build

Mentioned: 109 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6556 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 58 Times in 36 Posts
Yeah, I have no use for thick or specially padded handlebar tape. Give me thin and taut.
__________________
Robert

Originally Posted by LAJ
No matter where I go, here I am...
rpenmanparker is offline  
Old 03-11-17, 10:02 PM
  #4  
oldschool56
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 87

Bikes: 2016 Trek 1.2

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Doge
You can get real good cushioning with carbon bars and thin tape.
It's a matter of preference (and available funds). I prefer thicker bars. I'd rather pay $23.00 for the gel inserts first. If they don't function as I hope, I can then try something else a bit more costly.
oldschool56 is offline  
Old 03-11-17, 10:13 PM
  #5  
Doge
Senior Member
 
Doge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Southern California, USA
Posts: 10,475

Bikes: 1979 Raleigh Team 753

Mentioned: 153 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3375 Post(s)
Liked 371 Times in 253 Posts
Originally Posted by oldschool56
It's a matter of preference (and available funds). I prefer thicker bars. I'd rather pay $23.00 for the gel inserts first. If they don't function as I hope, I can then try something else a bit more costly.
Not directed at you, FYI on our experience.
I did thick bars and gel when my kid did Paris Roubaix. He ended up with a bunch of blisters on his hands. The padding (gel) was actually like one of those stress balls and allowed movement/figure friction and fatigued his hands/forearms - and blisters. Later events he went to thin tape and had no issues.
Doge is offline  
Old 03-11-17, 10:24 PM
  #6  
rpenmanparker 
Senior Member
 
rpenmanparker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 28,682

Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build

Mentioned: 109 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6556 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 58 Times in 36 Posts
Originally Posted by Doge
Not directed at you, FYI on our experience.
I did thick bars and gel when my kid did Paris Roubaix. He ended up with a bunch of blisters on his hands. The padding (gel) was actually like one of those stress balls and allowed movement/figure friction and fatigued his hands/forearms - and blisters. Later events he went to thin tape and had no issues.
I "grew up" with thin tape and thin gloves to make a reasonably padded combination, but not too thick. To me gloves and tape are like saddles as far as padding is concerned. The notion that more padding is better for either tends to be readily disproved by real riding experience. Thick tape like thick saddle padding is for the uninitiated.
__________________
Robert

Originally Posted by LAJ
No matter where I go, here I am...
rpenmanparker is offline  
Old 03-11-17, 10:33 PM
  #7  
Doge
Senior Member
 
Doge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Southern California, USA
Posts: 10,475

Bikes: 1979 Raleigh Team 753

Mentioned: 153 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3375 Post(s)
Liked 371 Times in 253 Posts
Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
I "grew up" with thin tape and thin gloves to make a reasonably padded combination, but not too thick. To me gloves and tape are like saddles as far as padding is concerned. The notion that more padding is better for either tends to be readily disproved by real riding experience. Thick tape like thick saddle padding is for the uninitiated.
(We are agreeing again)
You likely didn't grow up with modern carbon fiber bars and seat posts. They are different. So different they are a choice for the type of ride, as are wheels.
Doge is offline  
Old 03-11-17, 10:39 PM
  #8  
rpenmanparker 
Senior Member
 
rpenmanparker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 28,682

Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build

Mentioned: 109 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6556 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 58 Times in 36 Posts
Originally Posted by Doge
(We are agreeing again)
You likely didn't grow up with modern carbon fiber bars and seat posts. They are different. So different they are a choice for the type of ride, as are wheels.
Sure. I just like the feel of a firm bar under my hands.
__________________
Robert

Originally Posted by LAJ
No matter where I go, here I am...
rpenmanparker is offline  
Old 03-12-17, 04:57 PM
  #9  
kbarch
Senior Member
 
kbarch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 4,286
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1096 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
With bar tape, firmness vs. cushioning hasn't been an issue for me, but I did use extra thick tape, and two layers of it, to get the bars on my FG the right size. I was getting cramps from the way I was grasping the track bars when just riding around. Now that's no longer a problem, and it feels just as good when riding properly in the drops.
Saddles are a whole different kettle of fish.
kbarch is offline  
Old 03-12-17, 05:38 PM
  #10  
Silvercivic27
Senior Member
 
Silvercivic27's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 2,435

Bikes: Colnago, Cervelo, Scott

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 191 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Doge
Not directed at you, FYI on our experience.
I did thick bars and gel when my kid did Paris Roubaix. He ended up with a bunch of blisters on his hands. The padding (gel) was actually like one of those stress balls and allowed movement/figure friction and fatigued his hands/forearms - and blisters. Later events he went to thin tape and had no issues.
He did Paris-Roubaix again and had no issues with thin tape?
Silvercivic27 is offline  
Old 03-12-17, 06:54 PM
  #11  
Doge
Senior Member
 
Doge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Southern California, USA
Posts: 10,475

Bikes: 1979 Raleigh Team 753

Mentioned: 153 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3375 Post(s)
Liked 371 Times in 253 Posts
Originally Posted by Silvercivic27
He did Paris-Roubaix again and had no issues with thin tape?
No, he did other Flanders/Belgium cobbled races with no issue with thin tape.

It was a learning experience.
Doge is offline  
Old 03-12-17, 06:56 PM
  #12  
jwill911
Riding is my addiction
 
jwill911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Alameda, CA
Posts: 183

Bikes: 2017 Orbea Orca,'06 Orbea Opal, 2019 Trek Checkpoint SL6

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Different strokes for different folks. I wrap my bars first with cloth tape then wrap with Fizik soft touch tape. The tape remains in place without slipping or shifting. Not a lot of soft padding but just makes for a slightly heftier feel. I like the better grip of the soft touch, sort of a fine suede feel.

Just my .02
John
jwill911 is offline  
Old 03-12-17, 09:29 PM
  #13  
grolby
Senior Member
 
grolby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BOSTON BABY
Posts: 9,788
Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 288 Post(s)
Liked 86 Times in 60 Posts
Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Sure. I just like the feel of a firm bar under my hands.
That's what she said.

Seriously, though, I agree. My preferred tapes are either Arundel Gecko or what used to be called Fizik Microtex. The 1.8 mm Lizard Skins tape will do in a pinch. The biggest improvement I've found in bar comfort comes from using a modern bar with an ovalized top section. An oblong shape is much more ergonomic than a round one.
grolby is offline  
Old 03-13-17, 07:55 PM
  #14  
jamesdak 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Utah
Posts: 8,684

Bikes: Paletti,Pinarello Monviso,Duell Vienna,Giordana XL Super,Lemond Maillot Juane.& custom,PDG Paramount,Fuji Opus III,Davidson Impulse,Pashley Guv'nor,Evans,Fishlips,Y-Foil,Softride, Tetra Pro, CAAD8 Optimo,

Mentioned: 156 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2326 Post(s)
Liked 5,005 Times in 1,783 Posts
Originally Posted by Doge
No, he did other Flanders/Belgium cobbled races with no issue with thin tape.

It was a learning experience.
Interesting and not what I would have expected from my own experience riding, limited as it is. My favorite has turned out to be a thicker synthetic cork tape with bar gel underneath. Although this is on the thinner vintage bars. The roads I ride are terrible and that give me the best comfort. Of course I do ride over the rough stuff with a very light grip allowing the bars to sorta dance in my hands. Probably not possible over long stretches of cobblestone.

Of course tire size/pressure and the right fork seem to make more of a difference to me on the rough stuff then bar tape.

Almost makes me what to try something superthin on one bike for the heck of it. Almost....
__________________
Steel is real...and comfy.
jamesdak is offline  
Old 03-13-17, 08:08 PM
  #15  
Dave Cutter
Senior Member
 
Dave Cutter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: D'uh... I am a Cutter
Posts: 6,139

Bikes: '17 Access Old Turnpike Gravel bike, '14 Trek 1.1, '13 Cannondale CAAD 10, '98 CAD 2, R300

Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1571 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 12 Times in 9 Posts
I buy dirt-cheap cork tape from China (direct). I pay like... $2.50 or $3. I sometimes (depending on the bars) like a little extra cushion... to get more width (arthritic hands). So I take a strip or two of the old tape and put it (flat) under the new wrapped tape.

I got my wrapping training watching YouTube videos.... and lots of practice. I am still not as good as I'd like to be.
Dave Cutter is offline  
Old 03-13-17, 08:22 PM
  #16  
PepeM
Senior Member
 
PepeM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 6,861
Mentioned: 180 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2739 Post(s)
Liked 119 Times in 59 Posts
I choose bartape based solely on looks.
PepeM is offline  
Old 03-13-17, 08:33 PM
  #17  
FBOATSB
Senior Member
 
FBOATSB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Central Indiana
Posts: 2,159
Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 913 Post(s)
Liked 515 Times in 344 Posts
Aluminum bars, one layer of black Newbaums, two coats of shellac. No gloves.
FBOATSB is offline  
Old 03-13-17, 08:33 PM
  #18  
f4rrest
Farmer tan
 
f4rrest's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Burbank, CA
Posts: 7,986

Bikes: Allez, SuperSix Evo

Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2870 Post(s)
Liked 28 Times in 23 Posts
Originally Posted by PepeM
I choose bartape based solely on looks.
As long as we're confessing...

Wrapping the bars terrifies me.
f4rrest is offline  
Old 03-13-17, 08:40 PM
  #19  
zymphad
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,637

Bikes: Super Cheap gc3 approved Bike

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 572 Post(s)
Liked 52 Times in 30 Posts
Originally Posted by f4rrest
As long as we're confessing...

Wrapping the bars terrifies me.
Why? It's so easy... Easiest part of putting a bike together.
zymphad is offline  
Old 03-13-17, 08:40 PM
  #20  
Doge
Senior Member
 
Doge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Southern California, USA
Posts: 10,475

Bikes: 1979 Raleigh Team 753

Mentioned: 153 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3375 Post(s)
Liked 371 Times in 253 Posts
Originally Posted by jamesdak
...
Almost makes me what to try something superthin on one bike for the heck of it. Almost....
Just don't do one without the other. It is the system that matters.
Do carbon bars/thin and reasonable/no gloves and bend your elbows - a lot.
Doge is offline  
Old 03-13-17, 08:47 PM
  #21  
f4rrest
Farmer tan
 
f4rrest's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Burbank, CA
Posts: 7,986

Bikes: Allez, SuperSix Evo

Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2870 Post(s)
Liked 28 Times in 23 Posts
Originally Posted by zymphad
Why? It's so easy... Easiest part of putting a bike together.
With new tape there are no wear lines, threads or finite registration surfaces involved, which leaves success open to interpretation.

Literally everything else I've done.
f4rrest is offline  
Old 03-13-17, 08:48 PM
  #22  
San Pedro
Senior Member
 
San Pedro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Kota, Aichi, Japan
Posts: 1,277

Bikes: 2011 Giant Seek R3, 2015 Specialized Allez Elite, 2017 Giant TCR Advanced 2

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 344 Post(s)
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by f4rrest
As long as we're confessing...

Wrapping the bars terrifies me.
Seems like something I would mess up too.
San Pedro is offline  
Old 03-13-17, 08:50 PM
  #23  
f4rrest
Farmer tan
 
f4rrest's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Burbank, CA
Posts: 7,986

Bikes: Allez, SuperSix Evo

Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2870 Post(s)
Liked 28 Times in 23 Posts
Originally Posted by San Pedro
Seems like something I would mess up too.
I'll change your hub bearings if you like...
f4rrest is offline  
Old 03-13-17, 08:53 PM
  #24  
jamesdak 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Utah
Posts: 8,684

Bikes: Paletti,Pinarello Monviso,Duell Vienna,Giordana XL Super,Lemond Maillot Juane.& custom,PDG Paramount,Fuji Opus III,Davidson Impulse,Pashley Guv'nor,Evans,Fishlips,Y-Foil,Softride, Tetra Pro, CAAD8 Optimo,

Mentioned: 156 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2326 Post(s)
Liked 5,005 Times in 1,783 Posts
Originally Posted by Doge
Just don't do one without the other. It is the system that matters.
Do carbon bars/thin and reasonable/no gloves and bend your elbows - a lot.
Carbon bars??!!

If I put carbon bars on any of my bikes the disturbance in the force would most likely shift the earth off it's rotational axis thus ending life as we know it!



Seriously though, the thought of trusting carbon bars is something this old fool just isn't ready for. Maybe one day....
__________________
Steel is real...and comfy.
jamesdak is offline  
Old 03-13-17, 09:20 PM
  #25  
TMonk
Not actually Tmonk
 
TMonk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 14,140

Bikes: road, track, mtb

Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2640 Post(s)
Liked 3,153 Times in 1,660 Posts
I use carbon bars on race rigs and have a policy of using them for maybe 2 or 3 seasons or a crash, whatever happens first. Kinda expensive if you think about it.

In general I agree with @jamesdak and don't trust carbon parts as much. My training bike is devoid of carbon outside of the frameset.
__________________
"Your beauty is an aeroplane;
so high, my heart cannot bear the strain." -A.C. Jobim, Triste
TMonk is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.