For the love of English 3 speeds...
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I think some people (ahem, me) go through an "adjustment period" in which they (ahem, I) add rather more than enough and then find it the next morning in a pool all over the rim and tire.
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Found these old SA wingnuts in my stash of parts today, and thought they'd look good on the Hobbs of Barbican >
Found some winged SA hub nuts by zombikombi1959, on Flickr
Found some winged SA hub nuts by zombikombi1959, on Flickr
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arrival at work by zombikombi1959, on Flickr
1934 Raleigh Sports Model by zombikombi1959, on Flickr
1934 K series SA hub by zombikombi1959, on Flickr
Got the 1934 Raleigh Sports Model up and running last night, and rode it into work today for a shake down run, armed with a bag of spanners for the 4 mile commute. Didn't need them though, bike road great. Didn't even need to adjust the old K type hub!
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Very cool Mike! Love the bars and quadrant shifter....love the entire bike, great patina!! Here's its younger cousin by some 27 years. I Still need to find a nice set of Raleigh fenders to replace the Walds.
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Hedge Fund (find):
Out for a midweek ride on the old roadster, stopped at a chicken farm, farmer says "That's an old bike, I've got one just like it been laying in the hedge for last three years, do you want it?"
Me (expecting a 30" BSA Double top-tube at the very least) braving third degree stinging nettles jumps into lush undergrowth to pull out a.........
1959 Raleigh. If it had a chaincase I'd say was a Superbe Dawn Tourist!?
Out for a midweek ride on the old roadster, stopped at a chicken farm, farmer says "That's an old bike, I've got one just like it been laying in the hedge for last three years, do you want it?"
Me (expecting a 30" BSA Double top-tube at the very least) braving third degree stinging nettles jumps into lush undergrowth to pull out a.........
1959 Raleigh. If it had a chaincase I'd say was a Superbe Dawn Tourist!?
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Very cool, wish our hedge rows yielded bicycles! In the States the story would have ended with a Huffy I'm affraid
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Seems we should plant more hedge rows if that's where you find ancient 3 speeds
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Look at the size of that tail light!
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Here's the Grail; on eBay right now!:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1940-Gents-R...item2c66f26eb6
https://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ted/?start=all
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1940-Gents-R...item2c66f26eb6
https://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ted/?start=all
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Here's the Grail; on eBay right now!:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1940-Gents-R...item2c66f26eb6
https://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ted/?start=all
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1940-Gents-R...item2c66f26eb6
https://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ted/?start=all
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4500.00 is a pretty steep price for some old three speed... But what a beautiful specimen.
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I remember the D's, had a bullet lamp that took 2 and produce a useless glow for an evening.
" I was having a bit of fun with the latern battery "
" I was having a bit of fun with the latern battery "
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Hi folks, I have a question.
Unfortunately, I'm downsizing apartments next month which means I have to sell off most of my bike collection since I'll no longer have a garage .
I own a black 23" Raleigh Sports from 1970 and a black 21" Rudge Sports from the same year. I can keep only one of them (and plan on swapping out the best parts from each since they are of the same vintage). I'm just having a lot of trouble deciding which one to let go. On the one hand, I've heard that 23" frames are rarer than 21," but on the other hand I haven't seen many Rudges around either (and I really love its chainring). Both frames are in very good condition and both ride well for me (though I'd probably say that I prefer larger frame of the Raleigh...it feels like I'm riding the SUV of bicycles.)
Anyway, is there any difference in value/collectibility between the two? Given that they are the same year and the same color, they are essentially identical except for the size difference and the particularities of each branding.
Thoughts?
Unfortunately, I'm downsizing apartments next month which means I have to sell off most of my bike collection since I'll no longer have a garage .
I own a black 23" Raleigh Sports from 1970 and a black 21" Rudge Sports from the same year. I can keep only one of them (and plan on swapping out the best parts from each since they are of the same vintage). I'm just having a lot of trouble deciding which one to let go. On the one hand, I've heard that 23" frames are rarer than 21," but on the other hand I haven't seen many Rudges around either (and I really love its chainring). Both frames are in very good condition and both ride well for me (though I'd probably say that I prefer larger frame of the Raleigh...it feels like I'm riding the SUV of bicycles.)
Anyway, is there any difference in value/collectibility between the two? Given that they are the same year and the same color, they are essentially identical except for the size difference and the particularities of each branding.
Thoughts?
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Brynley, I would choose by size first and brand next. And decide by how it rides, not by market value. You're going to ride it, right?
With that said, I have an affection for the Rudge brand. I always have.
With that said, I have an affection for the Rudge brand. I always have.
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Thanks noglider, that sounds like good advice. I'll take each of them for a spin tomorrow. I definitely do plan on keeping one of them for the purpose of riding it.
Also, one more question. On one of the bikes, the crankset is a bit loose and wobbles slightly from side to side if pressure is put on one of the pedals, which results in the chain rubbing against the chainguard. Is this something that I could likely fix easily? Or would I need to take off the cranks (and those pesky cotter pins) in order to get at whatever mechanism needs to be adjusted? I've been slowly learning more about bike maintenance this year, but I've not yet messed around in a bottom bracket.
Also, one more question. On one of the bikes, the crankset is a bit loose and wobbles slightly from side to side if pressure is put on one of the pedals, which results in the chain rubbing against the chainguard. Is this something that I could likely fix easily? Or would I need to take off the cranks (and those pesky cotter pins) in order to get at whatever mechanism needs to be adjusted? I've been slowly learning more about bike maintenance this year, but I've not yet messed around in a bottom bracket.
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would I need to take off the cranks (and those pesky cotter pins) in order to get at whatever mechanism needs to be adjusted?
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I'm having a great time reading backwards through this thread, thanks to all who are sharing their knowledge, tips and stories!
Until recently I didn't add up the facts of my British cycle tendencies even though I had a Rudge as a kid, lusted after a Ralegh Pro as a teen in the early 1970s, ended up buying a Mercian Pro frameset new in '88 and have been tidying up an all-original Moulton Stowaway that belonged to my Uncle - he passed away over 25 years ago and my aunt gave it to me as I always admired it.
Recently I got it in my head that an old Sports would be a great around-town ride, and after a week of CL activity on Long Island and the western suburbs of Boston the fleet has landed. It started with a 1966 Sports and a 1972 BSA for my son, followed quickly by a 1972 Sports (Malaysian build, looks like it has less than 20 miles on it) for my wife and a 1969 Philips for my stepson. Beyond cleaning nothing serious is wrong with these bikes mechanically. New tires/tubes/rim tape is all they needed to be rideable, although some bits will be no doubt be upgraded. The B72 on mine was dessicated and torn. It became flexible after a generous Proofide application, then I stitched the tear and laced the sides but I'm not sure it'll be usable. So maybe a few saddles are next.
Here's the husband and wife rides:
1966 Sports
1972 Sports
I don't have shots of the BSA or Philips, yet. But I will...cheers!
Until recently I didn't add up the facts of my British cycle tendencies even though I had a Rudge as a kid, lusted after a Ralegh Pro as a teen in the early 1970s, ended up buying a Mercian Pro frameset new in '88 and have been tidying up an all-original Moulton Stowaway that belonged to my Uncle - he passed away over 25 years ago and my aunt gave it to me as I always admired it.
Recently I got it in my head that an old Sports would be a great around-town ride, and after a week of CL activity on Long Island and the western suburbs of Boston the fleet has landed. It started with a 1966 Sports and a 1972 BSA for my son, followed quickly by a 1972 Sports (Malaysian build, looks like it has less than 20 miles on it) for my wife and a 1969 Philips for my stepson. Beyond cleaning nothing serious is wrong with these bikes mechanically. New tires/tubes/rim tape is all they needed to be rideable, although some bits will be no doubt be upgraded. The B72 on mine was dessicated and torn. It became flexible after a generous Proofide application, then I stitched the tear and laced the sides but I'm not sure it'll be usable. So maybe a few saddles are next.
Here's the husband and wife rides:
1966 Sports
1972 Sports
I don't have shots of the BSA or Philips, yet. But I will...cheers!
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Thanks to photogravity for the nice rear fender. My daughter-in-law took delivery of her Hercules yesterday:
Laure is French, so I felt obligated to apologize that it wasn't a Peugeot. She (of course) named it "Air-Kyuhl".
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Laure is French, so I felt obligated to apologize that it wasn't a Peugeot. She (of course) named it "Air-Kyuhl".
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IMO, these old 3-speeds certainly are the definitive all-around town bikes.
- And it looks like your family will be an all-Brit 3-speed family: Raleigh, BSA, Phillips!
Why, the Queen might even knight you if she knew!
(Just kidding about the knighting part).
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BTW, from the list of bikes you presently own, it appears that you are the perfect person to ask to post a succinct overview of the pros and cons of say 3-speed hubs vs. 8-speed [IGH] hubs... [your 72 Peugeot]
Would you do that for me and for the other cyber-neighbors gathered at this "back 40 fence"? LOL
From here at least that would be much-appreciated. Tx