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Old 07-12-13, 11:21 AM
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Ritchey stem - what were they thinking?



How do you mount the handlebar onto this?
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wut?
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Not sure where you're going with this.

Is it going to be a zip tie joke?
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As most bars are now oversized at the clamp area, you take off the face plate, insert the bar at a narrow point nearer to the bends and slide the wide part of the bar into the clamp, then reattach and tighten face plate.

https://ritcheylogic.com/media/File/0..._10_29_web.pdf

It appears they were thinking of getting 260 degrees of wrap around on the stem. Maybe they were thinking of your safety. Maybe they were thinking of kittens and puppies riding unicorns over a sparkly rainbow.
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Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.

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You can't easily mount a lot of the handlebars onto this stem because the front plate is not half-circle; so the opening for the bar to go into is much smaller than the standard 31.8mm. I know some people have to take their tape and shifters off to slide the bar into the stem.
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I'm no genius, but it looks like one just unscrews some bolts.
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Originally Posted by dalava
You can't easily mount a lot of the handlebars onto this stem because the front plate is not half-circle; so the opening for the bar to go into is much smaller than the standard 31.8mm. I know some people have to take their tape and shifters off to slide the bar into the stem.
It's nowhere near as bad as an old single-bolt quill stem....
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Originally Posted by jsharr
As most bars are now oversized at the clamp area, you take off the face plate, insert the bar at a narrow point nearer to the bends and slide the wide part of the bar into the clamp, then reattach and tighten face plate.

https://ritcheylogic.com/media/File/0..._10_29_web.pdf
Why fix a problem that didn't exist? Is there some technical advantage in making the clamping this shape vs two half circles? We all have changed stems without having to take off bar tapes and shifters.
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Originally Posted by mvnsnd
I'm no genius, but it looks like one just unscrews some bolts.
not quite.
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That stem has been out for over a year now. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how to use it.
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Originally Posted by dalava
Why fix a problem that didn't exist? Is there some technical advantage in making the clamping this shape vs two half circles? We all have changed stems without having to take off bar tapes and shifters.
To them, it did exist: This revolutionary patented design starts with a bar clamp that wraps a full 260 degrees around the handlebar to distribute clamping stress more evenly through the handlebar, faceplate, hardware and stem body. The steer tube clamp uses three bolts and a curved slot to reduce clamp stress on the steer tube
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Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
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Originally Posted by jsharr
To them, it did exist: This revolutionary patented design starts with a bar clamp that wraps a full 260 degrees around the handlebar to distribute clamping stress more evenly through the handlebar, faceplate, hardware and stem body. The steer tube clamp uses three bolts and a curved slot to reduce clamp stress on the steer tube
Well, I am sure it's a problem for them so they can put some marketing spin on the solution.
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I'm confused as to why this is confusing...
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Originally Posted by colorider
Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
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Stem porn:

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Stem porn:

Exactly. What other stems require you to have a naked bar to mount?
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Exactly. What other stems require you to have a naked bar to mount?
Almost every quill stem ever made? Not that big of an issue once installed. And you would only have to unwrap part of the tops on one side to get them off in must instances.
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I have a few of them, and its no big deal. How often to you completely wrap your bars before installing on your bike? I never have...
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Seems like it would scratch up the handlebars when you slide it in or it could be problem for people that have 90 things mounted to their handlebars.
Either way it looks like a PITA
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Originally Posted by jsharr
Almost every quill stem ever made? Not that big of an issue once installed. And you would only have to unwrap part of the tops on one side to get them off in must instances.

Uh..that's why we moved away from the quill stem, much to the dismay of Grant Peterson. This is de-evolution, a step back to when it was more complicated then it needed to be.
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Uh..that's why we moved away from the quill stem, much to the dismay of Grant Peterson. This is de-evolution, a step back to when it was more complicated then it needed to be.
Of my three road bikes, two have quill stems and one has threadless. There is much to be said for the suppleness of a vintage steel frame. I ride my 1980s Falcon of England more than I ride my 2005 Trek 1200 or my 1983 Cannondale ST500.

I love threadless and the ease that they offer in changing out stems, but I do not see this system as a huge hindrance. I bet with most bars, you can put them in this stem wrapped, or as noted, by unwrapping a small portion of one side of the bars.

I can see the advantage of having more supports and having a clamp that "clinches" a bit more than the traditional threadless stem does.

Am I going to rush out and buy one, no. Would I be upset if one came on my next bike, no.
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Not gonna lie, I always thought this song was a Love & Rockets original....

Now that I know better, I'm not sure which one I like more.

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Not gonna lie, I always thought this song was a Love & Rockets original....

Now that I know better, I'm not sure which one I like more.

My vote: Love and Rockets
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I first heard the song by Love and Rockets and had to have the album. Bought the import album of Seventh Dream of Teenage Heaven from Bills Records and Tapes in Dallas and still have it today. Love my old vinyl (much like I love my old bikes). Then I discovered that L&R version was a cover and I too am not sure which one I like more.
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Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
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My bars aren't generally wrapped all the way to the stem, and I've always had more than enough space to install the bars into the C260 stems without ever touching my bar tape. I have a couple of these.

The stems are very light, and I suppose a rare once in a lifetime faceplate bolt failure won't make you instantly face plant.
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