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I do.
Zone 2 for 2 hours is an easy ride for me. I would barely breaking a sweat or even breathing hard.
A long distance ride more than 100 miles could also be easy if the elevation is low.
I just did a 19 mile mountain bike race over the weekend. Average I was in zone 4 for the 2 hours it took me to complete the race.
Zone 2 for 2 hours is an easy ride for me. I would barely breaking a sweat or even breathing hard.
A long distance ride more than 100 miles could also be easy if the elevation is low.
I just did a 19 mile mountain bike race over the weekend. Average I was in zone 4 for the 2 hours it took me to complete the race.
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Dude...what are you smoking?
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Again, Heart Rate Zone 4 is *not* the same as Power Zone 4. GhostRider is and has been talking exclusively about Power.
When a cyclist is talking about climbing, they'll commonly cite elevation gain; this is why Koyote is calling BS. I assume that you're citing the length of a climb and with no indication of gradient... that's a big noop.
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My apologies. I thought GhostRider was talking about heart rate zones. My fault for misunderstanding what he was referring to. I was referring to my heart rate average being in Zone 4 for the race I participated in.
I have no interest in power, wattage or owning a power meter.
I have no interest in power, wattage or owning a power meter.
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As WhyFi has already explained, cyclists universally measure climbing in terms of elevation change; that's also how Strava, ridewithgps, and every other mapping site and every GPS cycling computer measure climbing. But apparently you've never figured that out.
In a couple recent threads, you've tried to impress us with your vast cycling experience. Perhaps you should just be quiet on that topic.
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You said that.
As WhyFi has already explained, cyclists universally measure climbing in terms of elevation change; that's also how Strava, ridewithgps, and every other mapping site and every GPS cycling computer measure climbing.
As WhyFi has already explained, cyclists universally measure climbing in terms of elevation change; that's also how Strava, ridewithgps, and every other mapping site and every GPS cycling computer measure climbing.
I never said anything about doing 13,200 ft of climbing. So for clarification...I participated in a ~19 mile race and each lap had about 2.5 miles of climbing and my average HR was in zone 4 for the entire race.
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2.5 miles = 13,200 feet.
Cyclists measure climbing as elevation change. Elevation change means vertical change.
You are claiming to have climbed 13,200 feet in each lap of a 19 mile race. You are claiming this NOT because you actually climbed that much (because that is utterly inconceivable), but because you don't understand how "climbing" is measured.
If you want to know how much climbing you actually did on each lap, go into your Strava file from the ride, look in the upper right corner at the "Elevation" number, and divide by the number of laps.That quotient will be the amount of climbing you did in each lap.
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I NEVER claimed to have climbed 13,200 feet in each lap of a 19 mile race. Please show where I said that. You keep throwing out a number I never said. And I know how climbing and strava works so no need for you to explain.
So let me clarify this further since you are having trouble understanding. Each lap on the loop (approximately 6.63 mile loop) had a section that was 2-1/2 miles of climbing. Do you get that?! There was a ~2-1/2 mile section on the 6.63 mile loop that was all climbing. Understand now? The elevation change over the 2-1/2 miles section (all switchbacks, not straight up) is approximately 520 ft.
So let me clarify this further since you are having trouble understanding. Each lap on the loop (approximately 6.63 mile loop) had a section that was 2-1/2 miles of climbing. Do you get that?! There was a ~2-1/2 mile section on the 6.63 mile loop that was all climbing. Understand now? The elevation change over the 2-1/2 miles section (all switchbacks, not straight up) is approximately 520 ft.
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I'm going to explain this as if you are four years old:
2.5 miles = 13,200 feet.
Cyclists measure climbing as elevation change. Elevation change means vertical change.
You are claiming to have climbed 13,200 feet in each lap of a 19 mile race. You are claiming this NOT because you actually climbed that much (because that is utterly inconceivable), but because you don't understand how "climbing" is measured.
If you want to know how much climbing you actually did on each lap, go into your Strava file from the ride, look in the upper right corner at the "Elevation" number, and divide by the number of laps.That quotient will be the amount of climbing you did in each lap.
2.5 miles = 13,200 feet.
Cyclists measure climbing as elevation change. Elevation change means vertical change.
You are claiming to have climbed 13,200 feet in each lap of a 19 mile race. You are claiming this NOT because you actually climbed that much (because that is utterly inconceivable), but because you don't understand how "climbing" is measured.
If you want to know how much climbing you actually did on each lap, go into your Strava file from the ride, look in the upper right corner at the "Elevation" number, and divide by the number of laps.That quotient will be the amount of climbing you did in each lap.
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I assumed that, but only because I assumed that he didn't know what he was talking about. Otherwise, if any cyclist tells me that they did X units of climbing, I assume that they're talking about elevation gain.
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EDIT: IME, we all talk of distance in miles and climbing in feet.
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You said it right here:
And also right here:
You're both wrong, and you've missed the actual point. prj71 has used the "appeal to authority" fallacy in a few recent threads, including citing his riding stats. And, as I think you understand, in cycling (as in running, mountain climbing, flying, etc), "climbing" is always measured as vertical feet ascended.
And also right here:
You're both wrong, and you've missed the actual point. prj71 has used the "appeal to authority" fallacy in a few recent threads, including citing his riding stats. And, as I think you understand, in cycling (as in running, mountain climbing, flying, etc), "climbing" is always measured as vertical feet ascended.
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The difference is that when someone says "data is...", everyone understands their meaning. But if the poster had claimed that there was 1000 feet of climbing in each lap, most (practically all) cyclists would construe that as 1000 vertical feet. The only reason we knew better is because 2.5 miles was completely unbelievable.
It's only pedantry if it's pointless -- like your data snit.
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Dude, your own quotes of his posts don't convey what you say they do, AND he clarified when you posted your cockamamie interpretation of 2.5 miles of climbing per lap. The polite thing to do, you having been wrong, would be to say, "Oops! Sorry!".
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And it's not that you're being pedantic. It's that you're being WRONG.
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So, if I said, "Old La Honda is a 3 mile climb", you'd think it was 15,000 feet, not 3 miles of distance?
Seriously?
Seriously?
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The difference is that when someone says "data is...", everyone understands their meaning. But if the poster had claimed that there was 1000 feet of climbing in each lap, most (practically all) cyclists would construe that as 1000 vertical feet. The only reason we knew better is because 2.5 miles was completely unbelievable.
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