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Best of the worst: Xenon or Sora?

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Old 08-18-06, 12:25 PM
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Best of the worst: Xenon or Sora?

A friend is about to build a bicycle on a low budget and asked me about it. I'd say Xenon. And you?
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Ultegra...that is, if you want to be able to find parts and/or get service at most shops.
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Even 105 is out of the question.
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Originally Posted by SSP
Ultegra...that is, if you want to be able to find parts and/or get service at most shops.
....except for that modest difference in price, between $280 for a Xenon/Mirage group and $650 for Ultegra. Except for that.
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Xenon is 9 speed, Sora is 8 speed, if that makes a difference.
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Originally Posted by Reynolds
Even 105 is out of the question.
On that limited of a budget, your friend would probably do better buying a used bike.
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Originally Posted by Reynolds
Even 105 is out of the question.
You mean, budgetwise?
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You should be able to find a used 105 9-spd on ebay for a budget price.
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Xenon, because not being able to shift from the drops sucks.
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What about Tiagra? Still too much?
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Does the Tiagra rear derailler have the range necessary for a used 105 shifter?
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Xenon, hands down. It's actually some seriously good stuff - easy to service, very cheap (I think a pair of Xenon brifters runs somewhere around $50 for the two on Probikekit). It does feel a little plastic-y, and you'll always get that Campagnolo kind of 'clank' when you shift as opposed to the itty bitty clicks of a Shimano drivetrain, but for being able to trim the FD, shift from the drops, etc, Xenon is miles ahead of Sora.

(I've had experience with both.)
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Xenon/Mirage is without a doubt the highest quality and most underated entrance level components out there. However, in all honesty, if your friend was willing to fork out les than $100 more, he could get a full 10s Veloce group from www.11speed.com

I have 10s Veloce on my commuter, and it is sooooooo worth it. It is a beautiful silver components system, yet incredibly reliable for the money. One of the best bang for your buck 10s groups on the market.
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Originally Posted by Reynolds
Even 105 is out of the question.

Are you guys serious? I'm new to road cycling stuff, but i thought 105 was very decent?
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Originally Posted by worker4youth
Xenon is 9 speed, Sora is 8 speed, if that makes a difference.
shimano rep told me sora goes 9 speed for '07 today
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Originally Posted by Patriot
Xenon/Mirage is without a doubt the highest quality and most underated entrance level components out there. However, in all honesty, if your friend was willing to fork out les than $100 more, he could get a full 10s Veloce group from www.11speed.com

I have 10s Veloce on my commuter, and it is sooooooo worth it. It is a beautiful silver components system, yet incredibly reliable for the money. One of the best bang for your buck 10s groups on the market.
+1. I chose Veloce for my last build. It is my second Veloce driven bike. I have most of the other Campy groups as well on other bikes and Veloce feels and works the same. Pretty hard to beat Veloce and it isn't very expensive but is rugged and reliable. I think it is the best value available in a road group.
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Thanks guys- Xenon wins. And the finish is better than the Sora's.
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Originally Posted by robo
Are you guys serious? I'm new to road cycling stuff, but i thought 105 was very decent?
105 is better than Sora - he meant that the price is too high.
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Where can you get a Xenon group online?
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www.probikekit.com

www.11speed.com
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Originally Posted by SSP
Ultegra...that is, if you want to be able to find parts and/or get service at most shops.
Why do people do this when the OP specifically asked about Xenon or Sora. If the OP had been considering Ultegra I am sure he would have said so
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I'd go for the shimano.The Campy Mirage I tried out was well rough
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Why do people do this when the OP specifically asked about Xenon or Sora. If the OP had been considering Ultegra I am sure he would have said so
Yeah, really.
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Ultegra...that is, if you want to be able to find parts and/or get service at most shops.
And the elitists move out of the woodwork. Your statement isn't even remotely true. Trolling?
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