NaOH

Does anyone that has a small bike (below 50cm) run their bike like this? Notice the handlebars and stem.

ruskko

you know its a girl who rides that right?

Pinkbullet3

https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/...edlands-photos

muzpuf

WOW who needs brakes you can just reach over and grab the tires

MegaTom

Wouldn't it make more sense to ride a 650c equipped bike?

ruskko

shes a girl !girls tend to be smaller and designed differently

dayday82

sweet. I would rock that.

MegaTom

Me too ! But I would have to weld two of them together and join a tall bike jousting team.

NaOH

Yep, it intrigued me though because I ride a bike similar in size... =O

Zei

This is hilarious.

dayday82

the description wasn't there before

dayday82

I ride a 48 cervelo... but that looks even smaller than mine.

a1penguin

That looks like it has a very large toe overlap.

fordmanvt

I just saw this ad today, a 44cm bike with 700c wheels?

https://burlington.craigslist.org/bik/2919374685.html

carpediemracing 

There are a couple reasons not to go to 650c.

For a team rider, the biggest one is that the 650s won't interchange with 700c wheels. You don't have spares - wheels, tires, cassettes, chainrings (because smaller wheels require "bigger" gears, whether larger chainrings or smaller cogs or both - some very small wheeled bikes come stock with a 9T cog to get the gearing high enough, others use internal hub gears for the same effect).

I believe that there is a rule prohibiting 650s from UCI mass start races? Or at least you need two of the same wheel size, so no mixing one and the other. Not sure on this.

Those are kind of the real reasons.

Finally, because most racing is done at higher than 5 mph speeds, overlap becomes less an issue (where the foot can hit the front wheel). As anyone that rides a shorter-length bike can attest, once you've ridden an overlap bike, it's not a big deal.

I should point out that I haven't had overlap thoughts since I went to a longer frame (custom), but that I rode and raced bikes that have had significant overlap for a long time.

As far as bar height goes, you do what works. Although the frame isn't orange anymore, and it has shorter chainstays, the front end of the bike hasn't changed.



In action, same geometry, different frame, from the frame maker's site. You can see the bar height relative to the tire. The next day I rode about 6+ hours on the exact same set up, climbing for about 2.5-3 hours. It's a very comfortable set up.



I use, at times, mass start legal aero bars. I tried to put the Scott Rakes on but my thumb gets jammed between the bar and the tire, i.e. my thumb gets stuck between the tire and the bar. I have to use Cane Creek Speed bars to get clearance (the bottom bit flares out).

merlinextraligh

No. You couldn't get a wheel from a team mate. You couldn't get a wheel from neutral support. It would slow down getting a wheel from your team car, because they'd have to find your wheel. And it would add cost to the team because the team would have to maintain multiple sets of 650 wheels just for one rider.

merlinextraligh

You can still use 650's; but UCI rules require both wheels have to be the same size.

And I should have to the end of the thread before I bothered posting.

Carloswithac

It must suck to be that short.

dayday82

Actually it doesn't. We're more aero, lighter, and people hate drafting behind us.

Beau210

I have a 48 cm Orbea and no I don't have my bike with that much drop.

adriano 

edit:

size is 50 x 50.

rdtompki

Another vote for diversity training.

CaptainHaddock

Do you like to talk around your foot, or is it that you like the taste of shoe leather?

CaptainHaddock

That's a great looking frame!

grolby

That would be big deal if toe overlap were a significant design problem for a road bicycle. But it's not.

Unfortunately, many bike designers TREAT toe overlap as a big problem, and that screws us short riders over with bikes that handle like crap. But there are also lots of designers out there who are smarter than that.