What is a hybrid a hybrid of?
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Well, here's the thing. The term "happy medium" is, in itself, a nebulous one. When I bought my 2014 7.6 FX as NOS way back in 2016 (and my second, barely used 7.6 FX in late 2018,) I did so on the premise (my own, that is) that they were the closest thing to a flat-bar road bike I could get my hands on at the time. I wanted a road bike; I just didn't want the drop bars. I didn't care at all whether they had any MTB DNA left in them; the direct-pull brakes, 135mm rear hub spacing, and wide (for the time) range cassette notwithstanding. I wouldn't have cared if they called it a flat-bar road bike, a hybrid, or an MTB with road wheels - I still would've bought it because it ticked all the boxes for me. So even though the model skewed more heavily towards the road side of hybrid, it was - and still is - my happy medium. Someone else's happy medium might be more like a Trek DS type of thing; it just seems that "gravel bike" is a lot of people's happy medium, probably because the marketing spares a lot of people the trouble of actually thinking through where on the spectrum - real or imagined - their happy medium lies.
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Would it still be a "crossover SUV" if it had only front wheel drive and rode on low-profile, all-season tires like plenty "lifestyle" crossovers sold today do? That's a lot of semantics to unpack, none of which make any sense outside of the marketing copy.
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I would've loved me a dual sport type of thing. I would've added a good suspension seat post to make it perfect. But when I went to the local Trek dealer with the intention of buying one, they said I probably might reconsider if I actually sat on one. Being just 5'3"/160cm, I quickly realized that there was no way I could deal with the extremely long reach, even on the smallest-size frame! So that was that. Why Trek designed the DS like that, with a longer reach than most of their mountain bikes, is beyond me.
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Mountain bikes were hybrids of BMX cruisers and touring bikes, right?
No cross pollinization from mountain bikes on this one but it ticks pretty much all the boxes
No cross pollinization from mountain bikes on this one but it ticks pretty much all the boxes
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But from what I've seen in recent years, the manufacturers/designers have made significant improvements on the concept, (and many of the varied sub-genres), so I've since become a fan, and own a couple myself. In fact, earlier this year I scored a deal on a minty-nice, 9 speed Giant (flat bar road bike), that has become my #1 ride for months now.
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I would've loved me a dual sport type of thing. I would've added a good suspension seat post to make it perfect. But when I went to the local Trek dealer with the intention of buying one, they said I probably might reconsider if I actually sat on one. Being just 5'3"/160cm, I quickly realized that there was no way I could deal with the extremely long reach, even on the smallest-size frame! So that was that. Why Trek designed the DS like that, with a longer reach than most of their mountain bikes, is beyond me.
I like one of the common Euro terms for these: 'cross bike' ('cross' as in cross-terrain, not cyclocross). Anyway ... I am sorely tempted by the bike linked below, especially given a recent price reduction that makes it almost affordable in $Cdn (after GST, and our bloody 13% import duty on complete bikes).
Hmmmm ... perfect for a beginner like me, who knows nothing about bikes and doesn't know any better (I've learnt this about myself while reading through this thread).
https://www.canyon.com/en-ca/hybrid-...rahmenfarbe=BK
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I share this minority (here on teh Biek Formz) taste for dual-sport types of things (stop laughing, you in the back).
I like one of the common Euro terms for these: 'cross bike' ('cross' as in cross-terrain, not cyclocross). Anyway ... I am sorely tempted by the bike linked below, especially given a recent price reduction that makes it almost affordable in $Cdn (after GST, and our bloody 13% import duty on complete bikes).
Hmmmm ... perfect for a beginner like me, who knows nothing about bikes and doesn't know any better (I've learnt this about myself while reading through this thread).
https://www.canyon.com/en-ca/hybrid-...rahmenfarbe=BK
I like one of the common Euro terms for these: 'cross bike' ('cross' as in cross-terrain, not cyclocross). Anyway ... I am sorely tempted by the bike linked below, especially given a recent price reduction that makes it almost affordable in $Cdn (after GST, and our bloody 13% import duty on complete bikes).
Hmmmm ... perfect for a beginner like me, who knows nothing about bikes and doesn't know any better (I've learnt this about myself while reading through this thread).
https://www.canyon.com/en-ca/hybrid-...rahmenfarbe=BK
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At the end of the day, wasn't a hybrid from its inception just a modernized cruiser bike? Basically an updated Schwinn Suburban with more gears and a flatbar handlebar?
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Well, technically, he did not crash his Tesla. He was just out minding his own business, playing a video game. It was the Tesla that went and crashed itself for no good reason
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In my recollection, the early hybrids sat pretty squarely between road bikes and MTBs. It was an all-around bike for the masses of recreational/occasional cyclists who weren't interested in going as fast as possible on the road, or riding extreme conditions in the dirt. The hybrid was a mediocre bicycle for mediocre riders.
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It all depends on who you're trying to sell it to.
In my recollection, the early hybrids sat pretty squarely between road bikes and MTBs. It was an all-around bike for the masses of recreational/occasional cyclists who weren't interested in going as fast as possible on the road, or riding extreme conditions in the dirt. The hybrid was a mediocre bicycle for mediocre riders.
In my recollection, the early hybrids sat pretty squarely between road bikes and MTBs. It was an all-around bike for the masses of recreational/occasional cyclists who weren't interested in going as fast as possible on the road, or riding extreme conditions in the dirt. The hybrid was a mediocre bicycle for mediocre riders.
Who you callin' mediocre?
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Agreed on all counts. The shop where I occasionally work sells a ton of hybrids, mostly to moms and dads who want to ride with their kids or put a child seat on them, and also a fair number to those who want to give commuting a shot.
They're sort of the mini-van of bikes: unglamorous but useful.
They're sort of the mini-van of bikes: unglamorous but useful.
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Originally Posted by Eric F;[url=tel:22723734
22723734]The hybrid was a mediocre bicycle for mediocre riders.
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That’s valid.
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The real death of the hybrid bike was the hybrid car. Suddenly the name meant something else entirely to more people. The very bike style that beginners and commuters would use, had a name that made as much sense as clipping into clipless pedals.
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It all depends on who you're trying to sell it to.
In my recollection, the early hybrids sat pretty squarely between road bikes and MTBs. It was an all-around bike for the masses of recreational/occasional cyclists who weren't interested in going as fast as possible on the road, or riding extreme conditions in the dirt. The hybrid was a mediocre bicycle for mediocre riders.
In my recollection, the early hybrids sat pretty squarely between road bikes and MTBs. It was an all-around bike for the masses of recreational/occasional cyclists who weren't interested in going as fast as possible on the road, or riding extreme conditions in the dirt. The hybrid was a mediocre bicycle for mediocre riders.
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