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Old 03-04-21, 07:29 AM
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LF new silver wheelset for vintage road frame

Everywhere I look there's rimbrake wheelsets with black rims and spokes, but I can't find any silver ones. Nothing fancy, I prefer wider inner width than what was standard back then, and got the spacing for it. Freehub for 10/11s.

EDIT: UK&EU suppliers prefferable

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Originally Posted by BakinaRakija
Everywhere I look there's rimbrake wheelsets with black rims and spokes, but I can't find any silver ones. Nothing fancy, I prefer wider inner width than what was standard back then, and got the spacing for it. Freehub for 10/11s.

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Velomine has several options: https://www.velomine.com/index.php?m...uvs1i47246j9p3
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The OP is in Europe.
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Originally Posted by bikemig
The OP is in Europe.
Edited my post after his reply, it's still helpful for scouting out wheelsets.
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Yep, tough to find other than going custom. I usually just browse the classifieds at the various forums or Ebay. Velomine has been a good source over the years for in the states but has very limited silver Campagnolo selection right now. I have a set coming from Ebay right now that I hope do the trick for me on the Fishlips.

Maybe check the classifieds on Retrobike.
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Pacenti seems to have a UK presence, these look nice! https://pacenticycledesign.co.uk/col...ake-low-flange

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Originally Posted by bikemig
The OP is in Europe.
Velomine ships worldwide.
I've ordered stuff from the UK and elsewhere (Japan, Spain, Holland, Italy), and I'm in the US - international shipping is pretty common now.

The Pacenti's look like a very good option.
OP - If you are willing to build them up (or have them built), your options open considerably.
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Dang didn't know about those Pacenti's. They look nice. Hmmmm.......tempting.
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Originally Posted by canyoneagle
Velomine ships worldwide.
I've ordered stuff from the UK and elsewhere (Japan, Spain, Holland, Italy), and I'm in the US - international shipping is pretty common now.

The Pacenti's look like a very good option.
OP - If you are willing to build them up (or have them built), your options open considerably.
I would be willing to build them myself, but the only rims I found were mavic A319, which I might go for.
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Originally Posted by BakinaRakija
I would be willing to build them myself, but the only rims I found were mavic A319, which I might go for.
Velo Orange specializes in retro-style components (rims, hubs included) an may offer what you are after. https://velo-orange.com/

Ambrosio makes nice rims, and their Beneto may fit the bill. I've built a wheelset with their Excellight (in silver, but probably narrower than you're after) and found them to be very nice quality. https://ambrosiowheels.com/en/rims/classics/benelux/
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https://www.velocityusa.com/product/.../road-wheelset
The A23 come in silver.
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How new and pricey are you willing to go?
https://www.huntbikewheels.cc/products/hunt-sprint-aero-wide-road-wheelset-1497g-31deep-24wide
Hunt Wheels, out of the UK
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0.o This is exactly the type of wheels I would like to fit to the Bottecchia, but unfortunately waaay over budget. I'm gonny try to copy this spoke pattern if I end up building them myself, though. Thank you!
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Try to find a European distributor for Araya.

https://www.araya-usa.com/700crims
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Try to find a European distributor for Araya.

https://www.araya-usa.com/700crims
Thanks for sharing this, great option for a C&V bike. Reasonably priced as well.
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Originally Posted by seypat
Try to find a European distributor for Araya.

https://www.araya-usa.com/700crims
These ar713 look tasty, but I'm afraid 15.4mm internal width is a bit skinny for 28c tires :/
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Originally Posted by BakinaRakija
These ar713 look tasty, but I'm afraid 15.4mm internal width is a bit skinny for 28c tires :/
I have 25s on my set. They really shine in the sun.



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Originally Posted by BakinaRakija
These ar713 look tasty, but I'm afraid 15.4mm internal width is a bit skinny for 28c tires :/
Traditional road rims have around 14mm internal width, and there is zero problem mounting 28mm tires on 14mm rims. I have 3 bikes with 28mm tires on narrow rims. Zero problems. Don't waste money on a new wheelset if all you want to do is to run 28's.
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Originally Posted by seypat
I have 25s on my set. They really shine in the sun.
Man, that's good looking!

Originally Posted by icemilkcoffee
Traditional road rims have around 14mm internal width, and there is zero problem mounting 28mm tires on 14mm rims. I have 3 bikes with 28mm tires on narrow rims. Zero problems. Don't waste money on a new wheelset if all you want to do is to run 28's.
Yeah, I suppose so, It's just that the frame I'm putting these wheels on is an old touring frame with somewhat greater tire clearance and mudguard space, so I'm keen on keeping my options open regarding tire size, But I wouldn't go any higher than 35 (Yeah, I like them supple).
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I joined the forum just yesterday. I may be at a wrong place and asking for a wrong thing but, I'm looking for a pair of 700x32c wheels for my old 10 speed bike from 70's. I browsed thru the internet just to get confused; I can't tell which products are for new bikes or old ones. Can someone tell me some online stores and how I locate suitable products? the rear wheel must accept an old fashioned 5 gear sprocket. Mafac rim brakes used.

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That is a nice looking bike:




If you have a 5sp rear, it is likely that you have 120mm spacing which is an old standard (see here for explanation).

Velomine is a very good option for US customers looking for wheelset for bikes with narrow spacing, but I don’t know if they carry a 120mm OLD wheelset in 700c that ISN’T a track wheelset, which you don’t want. If your hubs are in good condition, it may be better to have your local shop lace new rims on those hubs. From the preliminary pics, I suspect that your bike does have good quality hubs (Campy?) and this would be my recommendation.

If you have 126mm spacing, they have several options, although most are sold out. This Weinmann set looks to be in stock though (link). It is likely a step down in quality from your current wheelset.

One other question: 700x32 refers to the size of the tire, not the wheel. Do you want to increase tire size, or replace your wheelset?

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I joined the forum just yesterday. I may be at a wrong place and asking for a wrong thing but, I'm looking for a pair of 700x32c wheels for my old 10 speed bike from 70's. I browsed thru the internet just to get confused; I can't tell which products are for new bikes or old ones. Can someone tell me some online stores and how I locate suitable products? the rear wheel must accept an old fashioned 5 gear sprocket. Mafac rim brakes used.

Thanks,
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Consider starting a new thread on this bike, I’m sure members here would like to take a gander.

We can help you post pictures until you reach 10 posts.

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Thank much for your tip, CO_Hoya. This time, I’m looking for a new pair of wheels and tires. I didn’t know 700x32c is a tire spec and is not for a rim. I don’t know the size of rims. I did some hub spacing measurements and found they are 97.5mm and 120mm for the front and rear, respectively (between inner walls of forks). I know the frame is of an old French style. The wheels have SUZUE hubs and FIAMME rims and are in a good condition, except they definitely need tuning. What bothers me is the rims are different sizes and current tire sizes are 27”x1-1/4” and 700x32c for the front and rear, respectively. A long time ago, the rear wheel was damaged in a minor collision accident and was replaced by a reputative bike shop. However, they put a smaller rim. I found that quite after the repair was done. So, this time, I’m buying a new pair of wheels accepting 700x32c tires.

Returning to hub spacing, if I buy a new front wheel with 100 mm hub spacing, which is the commonly available size, does it fit on my bike without any damage to the forks? I can take time to look for the right rear wheel meantime. I appreciate any input from you on this point.

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Sorry for the tardy reply.

I suppose the shop thought they were doing you a favor by “upgrading” your rear rim to the more common 700c.

So your dilemma is that you need a new wheelset with 100/120mm spacing, but I don’t know if the 120mm rear spaced for a 5sp freewheel is easily available. It may be possible to size down a new 126mm hub to 120mm but this can be non-trivial; see this discussion for example (link). Putting a 100mm OLD hub in that 97.5mm spaced French fork would be fine.

If you have access to someone who can lace wheels, I’d recommend rebuilding on the existing hubs using either Sun CR-18 rims (cheap, nice enough) or H Plus Sons TB14 (very nice, pricey). I think you’ll want to keep you inside rim width >16mm, trying to keep rim inner width >=1/2x tire width; that’s more my personal rule than something strict. I can lace my own, so I don’t pay labor. Paying a shop may not be cheap, but likely the wheelset will be better than anything machine laced.

Again, I’d strongly recommend that you create a new thread describing your predicament and showing off the bike. You’ll get a lot more eyes than here, tacked on the end of someone else’s thread. I certainly think you should get some advice from others beyond me. And if you provide your location, perhaps someone could point you to a local resource or deal on Craigslist, etc.

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Thank much for your tip, CO_Hoya. This time, I’m looking for a new pair of wheels and tires. I didn’t know 700x32c is a tire spec and is not for a rim. I don’t know the size of rims. I did some hub spacing measurements and found they are 97.5mm and 120mm for the front and rear, respectively (between inner walls of forks). I know the frame is of an old French style. The wheels have SUZUE hubs and FIAMME rims and are in a good condition, except they definitely need tuning. What bothers me is the rims are different sizes and current tire sizes are 27”x1-1/4” and 700x32c for the front and rear, respectively. A long time ago, the rear wheel was damaged in a minor collision accident and was replaced by a reputative bike shop. However, they put a smaller rim. I found that quite after the repair was done. So, this time, I’m buying a new pair of wheels accepting 700x32c tires.

Returning to hub spacing, if I buy a new front wheel with 100 mm hub spacing, which is the commonly available size, does it fit on my bike without any damage to the forks? I can take time to look for the right rear wheel meantime. I appreciate any input from you on this point.

Move55

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I just had set of wheels made up from Campy 100 & 120 (5-sp) hubs laced to H Plus Son TB14 and they turned out beautifully. They stand in nicely for the original tubulars and really are very nice rims.


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I just had set of wheels made up from Campy 100 & 120 (5-sp) hubs laced to H Plus Son TB14 and they turned out beautifully. They stand in nicely for the original tubulars and really are very nice rims
So great of you to post this, I was looking at H Plus Son rims just yesterday, and was making calculations about how much it would cost me. I still think these tb14's are a bit pricy for their conventional shape, but people do praise them. And since I'm inclined to go for at least 32c tires on my touring frame, I'm becoming more and more convinved that I'm gonna go with box section rims. How do they ride?
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