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Amazon's return department (Amazon Warehouse Deals) has this Schwinn for around $1100. Is this a pretty good deal?

Link:
https://amzn.to/45tdKYR

Maelochs

For the rpice it looks quite good .... I would pay quite a bit for an old 5800 rim brake gruppo .... I am a little concerned about tire clearance .... looks like 25s is all it will take, and I am assuming those are older, narrower wheels, seeing as all the parts are older .... but if the bike is under 19 pounds and under $1200 it seems like a good deal. For smooth pavement I;'d say yes it is a good deal. The group set and wheels alone are worth a good bit, and the frame is not porky ... if the listed weights are accurate.

Make sure the frame fits you ....

Iride01 

In some areas, bike shops don't work on bikes that they are not a authorized dealer for. So if you aren't able to DIY for yourself, you might ask at the local bikes shops and be sure they'll be there for you with that bike. Schwinn isn't the Schwinn that was famous and revered many years ago in the previous century. But the bike is likely decent enough to get some experience with. If cycling turns out to be your thing, then IMO, no bike should be your forever bike. Wear them out and get another!

BlazingPedals

I think $1200 is about the going price for them anyway. It's not a bad price. But as it's been pointed out, there's no support, and the fact that it says "Schwinn" doesn't mean it's in any way associated with the old company of the same name.

alcjphil

Not a good deal. The Schwinn name on the bike means less than nothing and hasn't for at least 30 years. At less than half the asking price, Pass

veganbikes

The components on it are entry level which is not a bad thing if defined correctly 105 is a solid groupset that is quite reliable but the bike as a whole isn't particularly worth that much being a Schwinn. It is not terrible price wise considering these days a bike like that would be a bit more expensive but again zero support for it and you are buying essentially second hand product if the frame is damaged or there are others issues at all you are out on your own. From what I have been reading people have had issues and have had to return bikes and get new ones and deal with various issues and while it is all anecdotal evidence it is worthwhile noting people are saying this stuff so you can make a more informed decision.

tFUnK

Regardless of brand, a full carbon, full 105 rim brake bike for under $1200 sounds like a decent deal to me. It'll be no worse than any other entry-mid level carbon bike with a similar parts spec at that price point, and maybe among the better bikes you can get at that price point, period.

Russ Roth

Seriously? Since when is 105 an entry level road bike? Maybe entry level for racing purposes but not entry level for in general. Shimano's road line consists of Tourney, Claris, Sora and Tiagra all below 105 while only Ultegra and DA are above it, not exactly entry. Its amazon warehouse, not craigslist, if the frame shows up cracked then you bring it to the nearest amazon drop off location. And if you've looked at bikes these days, they're going for a lot more, for example, trek thinks their aluminum frame, 11sp 105 equipped bike should be worth 2300.00 https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/b...olorCode=black Note, they claim a 105 equipped bike is race ready, so I'm guessing they'll argue with you that it isn't entry level as well.

OP, the biggest issue is that unless you're skilled in building bikes, you'll have to pay a shop to build it, as we're entering the off season that should be easy to find but expect to pay about a 100.00 for the assembly. As to the condition of the bike, that's a gamble. Personally I like amazon warehouse deals but its been a mixed bag. Some of the stuff was there because the packaging was more damaged than Amazon wants to ship out as new, the item inside was pristine. Others were clearly sent back and with parts missing, which wasted an hour of my time to return but Kohls gives coupons for doing returns through them and getting 5.00 off a pack of socks I needed seemed reasonable. As to quality, this is not the same schwinn company that many remember, that can be both good and bad. Schwinn is now part of the Pacific group along with GT, Dyno, Cannondale and Litespeed. With Schwinn they are making two lines, the better of the two is as well made as any of the other brands and I'd guess this is part of that line. It'll lack the pedigree of the originals but will still be a nice bike. The cheaper line, from my direct experience with them really suck, but so too do most of the crap 70s and 80s schwinns that people seem to fawn over.

Jughed

Shimano 105 - $550
Shimano wheelset - $175
Tires - $50
Bars, seatpost, misc finishing kit - $200
Assembly, shipping, retail markup...

Even with bulk discounts on all the above products, for that bike to be sold at any profit level - I'm guessing Schwinn paid about $50 for that frame and fork from China. Max $50.

Big ole nope for me. Still recovering, 18 months later, from cheap a China CF product failure.

tinkerbike

As linked, this offer is for a USED bike from Amazon's return department. There's only one available. That's a hard pass...

XxHaimBondxX

I bought my Roubaix for $300 on FB, 50 mile - mint condition. Keep an eye for deals and something better will come up, unless you have an urgent need for bike.

With tax this Schwinn is almost $1,300.

JaseVermin

looks good to me

urbanknight

I dunno, the description says "looks and functions as new", and you could always return it if it doesn't match that description.

OP: (edited to remove "invalid" comparison). That's a good groupset with a decent frame and wheelset, at a price you'll only see on bikes with much more mileage on them.

Maelochs

As menti0ned above this is apparently the latest generation of "Schwinn" bicycles built by the brand's latest owner .... so no comparisons to earlier models produced by different manufacturers are valid.

Also, this is not apparently a "used" bike but a bike which was knocked around during shipping and returned. if after careful inspection it turned out that the bike was fine while the box was not ... that is what is called "a Deal," folks and they can be good things. Maybe none of you shop "scratch and dent" sales, or by refurbished floor models ... I have been doing it successfully for decades. Nothing is guaranteed, of course ... ever. You could get a brand new custom-built frame and have it fail fatally on the first ride, through some total freak of nature, or buy a bike which which came in a box made mostly of tape, which lasted decades.

This bike, to me, is on par with Bikes Direct bikes .... three-year-old tech, solid, not spectacular, at a fair price ... and how many of us really Need "spectacular"? And a brand-new 8000-grouop set with rim brakes?

Almost every bike I have ever bought needed some changes ... a stem or bars and usually a saddle better suited to my anatomy .... so if this bike coast someone else $100 to assemble (not me, but some folks) then that is a small premium which I would expect to possibly have to pay anyway. Shoot, why not throw in the cost of cages and pedals and a seat bag and tools and tubes?

A sub 19-pound bike with an 8000 group set for about $1200 ..... If you Know bikes and are willing to spend a lot of time and money waiting for the right deal, driving there, and finding out the seller mis-described the bike or whatever ... . you Can find amazing used bikes for good prices ... depending on your area. I am sure in some regions the used market is pretty sparse. And if you don't know bikes in general you could end up paying a lot more for the wrong bike .... whereas here a newer rider can get a bike form a major corporation (which means parts availability at least) with a very good group set and very little worry.

I don't see people flooding the thread with their "perfect deals" which match this one .......

Koyote

I didn't notice this. Where did you see it in the listing?

Maelochs

Yeah. I don't see it either. Thanks for pointing out my error.

I probably leapt to a wrong conclusion after reading about a couple being sent back due to mishandling during shipping but this bike definitely says "used-very good condition."

"First of all make sure you inspect the shipping box and bike itself diligently. I had to send back the first 2 I got for various reasons that made them unacceptable and they were all likely due to the shipping and the terrible boxes they come in (bent dropouts on carbon fork, faulty shifter, etc)." I figured this was the same bike, refurbished, but there is no evidence to support that.

I was wrong. Thanks for catching that.

mstateglfr 

Components are entry level? Its a full R7000 105 group, even crank. The aluminum cockpit and wheels are both no different in quality than what you would recently find on rim brake bikes up to about $2500 price range.

In what world is this a bike with entry level components.

SoSmellyAir

My only caveat is that there are no photos showing how the rear derailleur shift cable is routed around the bottom bracket. The cable is (a) internal through the downtube but (b) external to the rear chain stay. How it transitions from (a) to (b) would be important to me.

veganbikes

I do not consider bottom end components to be "entry level" These are good components to start with they are reliable, not super expensive and will last a while.

veganbikes

I am aware of Shimano's line up Tourney and Claris are junk Sora is mediocre and Tiagra has improved but 105 is actually a good solid entry level groupset. I don't consider the bottom end to be entry level. Entry level should be good reliable components that function well not just the cheap junk that is at the bottom end.

Yes a Trek is expensive you pay good money for it to say Trek on it. Typically a rim brake road bike is around $1500 though that varies especially these days with so much going towards discs and in some cases it is downgraded to Tiagra.

mstateglfr 

It's unfortunate that you view Sora and Tiagra to be bottom end and not even worthy of being considered entry level.
Both are extremely reliable and popular for those who are looking for a bike thst is closer to the entry level price point.

We all have emotion based biases about something though.

Maelochs

No you are not "aware" of those things. You imagine those things.

Claris (modern Claris) is a solid 8-speed group set which has benefited from all of Shimano's experience. Sora is even better. Claris is indeed "entry-level" if one is entering the world of reliable long-lasting road bikes.

The fact that you think "entry-level" means "halfway up the hierarchy" shows that either you don't understand what "entry-level" means.

mstateglfr 

One of my kids has a Claris drivetrain road bike and it's been flawless for 4 years now. She even rode it in an ironman last year when she was 18. Definitely the only person that I saw with a Claris bike!

I tore it down this past winter and fully cleaned it before replacing the chain, cassette, and cables/housing.
It was dead simple to set back up and set the the shifting. It had over 5000mi on it in the first 3 years of use and shifting was perfect that whole time.
The group is heavy and since there is a lot of steel, it gets some superficial rust specks. That's the downside. Otherwise, incredible value for the cost so far.

urbanknight

It sounds like we have different definitions of "entry level". I believe entry level is supposed to be less expensive equipment so the person doesn't fret about the investment needed to try something out that they may or may not like.

Iride01 

My kids had Walmart and Target BSO's growing up. The group sets were Shimano, and likely the cheapest possible Shimano. I never had any issue with them that bending the hanger or adjusting the DR wouldn't fix. Oh, and spraying lots of lube in the FW's since they left them out in the yard in the rain instead of putting them back where they belonged. This idea that a inexpensive groups are junk is getting old and tiresome. IMO, probably people think this because they used those groups BITD when they were still little kids that abused bicycles and weren't good at DIY yet.