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Old 07-08-23, 03:59 PM
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Looking to changing my cassette

Hi everyone, I recently bought a bike that comes with XPLR SRAM Red 1by and the cassette that came with it does not fulfill my needs. I noticed that SRAM came out with a new cassette and I was wondering if this is a good cassette. Looking for a cassette that enables me to climb and also do sprints.

new cassette: https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/cs-pg-1231-d1

current cassette: https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/cs-xg-1271-d1

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Anyone know if I can use the rainbow chain?
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Looks like you have a mountain bike, so you might do better to post in that forum. Your current cassette has a 10-44 gear range and the new cassette has an 11-44 gear range, so your current cassette is more versatile and has a greater range. The new cassette would not help you.
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Originally Posted by Random11
Looks like you have a mountain bike, so you might do better to post in that forum. Your current cassette has a 10-44 gear range and the new cassette has an 11-44 gear range, so your current cassette is more versatile and has a greater range. The new cassette would not help you.
sorry, forgot to mention the bike. Is the Canyon Grail CF SLX 9 eTAP
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Originally Posted by Geo_Zegarra2016
sorry, forgot to mention the bike. Is the Canyon Grail CF SLX 9 eTAP
From the Canyon website, it appears that the cassette that comes with that bike has a 10-33 range. Both cassettes you linked to in your original post have a 44t largest cog. Those cassettes would help at the low end (riding slower), but I doubt that the derailleur on your current bike would be able to handle the larger gear. But in any case, those cassettes would not help you go faster, which is what your original post appeared to indicate you want. The bike already seems to be geared for fast riding, though, with a 48t chainring and 10t high gear. Few riders would want more than that.
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Climbing and doing sprints you really need two different bikes. Both are already pretty wide ranging cassettes. Your biggest issue for climbing is that you only have a 1x front. But with the 40 tooth ring that comes on it, you should have a lower gear ratio 40F/44R of 0.91 which is much better than many road bikes with a 2x front in a 50/34 crank and only a 32 low cog on the back. So you either are climbing long very steep hills or you just need to give yourself time for your legs to get stronger.

As for sprints are you talking about in soft gravel? However on paved roads, you'll never have a high enough gear ratio on that bike for sprints. At least not for sprints that require a high top end speed. Your 40 tooth ring will put you at a 8 mph disadvantage over those that can push a 53 tooth ring and 11 cog at 120 rpm for a time. Assuming you can do the same cadence with your 40/10 .

Knowing more about the way in which it doesn't suit your needs and what your actual riding terrain and conditions are might help us keep from making generalized statements that might not be anything about what you do and why you want it.
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Climbing and doing sprints you really need two different bikes. Both are already pretty wide ranging cassettes. Your biggest issue for climbing is that you only have a 1x front. But with the 40 tooth ring that comes on it, you should have a lower gear ratio 40F/44R of 0.91 which is much better than many road bikes with a 2x front in a 50/34 crank and only a 32 low cog on the back. So you either are climbing long very steep hills or you just need to give yourself time for your legs to get stronger.

As for sprints are you talking about in soft gravel? However on paved roads, you'll never have a high enough gear ratio on that bike for sprints. At least not for sprints that require a high top end speed. Your 40 tooth ring will put you at a 8 mph disadvantage over those that can push a 53 tooth ring and 11 cog at 120 rpm for a time. Assuming you can do the same cadence with your 40/10 .

Knowing more about the way in which it doesn't suit your needs and what your actual riding terrain and conditions are might help us keep from making generalized statements that might not be anything about what you do and why you want it.
I consider myself a beginners climber. My goal is to become a climbing specialist (my own definition). I have started my cycling journey since December 2020 and 2023 seems to be my breakthrough. I’ve beaten many PR and I am so happy with my progress. I know I have ways to go to reach my goal but I’m truly thankful. Next year, I am planning on doing three Grand Fondo events (New Jersey, Vermont, and Maryland). If time permits, it be nice to do the Asheville event too. The thing is, it seems like I tend to climb way better with my other bike which is the Grizl CF SLX Di2. I don’t know why maybe is the gears? So either I have to convert to 2by on my canyon grail or just use the Grizl to do some tough hill training. I also have the 2018 ultimate CF SLX 8.0. However, I just got the ultimate and still learning how to ride it. The only reason I got the grail was to do training sessions. So able to climb and do sprints on paved and off roads . That is why I want a new cassette for my grail.
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