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Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 01-18-22, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric F
The losing part has gotten harder as I've gotten older. I also don't really want to get back down to "race weight". 180-ish is good for me, at this point in my life.
I hear ya. I haven't quite reached the point where it's a chore, but I'm not going to be afraid to call it good when I do, either.
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Yeah, my wife works mostly in R and is... thoughtful and orderly. I have to hear about others, all the time, that are less so and her struggles to make sense of their messes that don't translate or scale well or whatever the hell.
Well, THERE'S my PROBLEM!
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Only the people who care about going fast.
Only the people who care about going fast UPHILL.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I know that you're strong and that you put in time, but that's actually the reason that the big bump might be worth scrutiny - you don't often see something like that outside of someone that's untrained and when you do, it's not the kind of thing that sneaks up on you. I don't know how/if you plan on actively using those numbers, but just keep it in mind.
I wouldn’t use it for much, I don’t use eftp for training because ERG is merciless. Typically I use what an indoor ramp gives me, which is usually 10-15%ess than intervals.

I’ll validate it with a hill effort in the near future. But think it’s possibly an outlier effort.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Only the people who care about going fast UPHILL.
Accurate.
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
I wouldn’t use it for much, I don’t use eftp for training because ERG is merciless.
Just take it out of ERG and do incline mode, or whatever it's called. I haven't touched ERG in ages (I've kind of turned the Alpe in to my interval training, anyway).
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The thing about it is, it's ONE puzzle a day. That means a single distraction of however long it takes you, and then that's it for the next 24 hours. You can't get sucked in to doing it over and over.
So it’s a tease, in other words.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Only the people who care about going fast UPHILL.
Hell, even on my 30'/mile rides, the weight makes a difference. For that matter, it makes a difference even on the 15'/mile rides in bam's neck of the woods! Now maybe if I lived in FL... but who'd want to do that?
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Just take it out of ERG and do incline mode, or whatever it's called. I haven't touched ERG in ages (I've kind of turned the Alpe in to my interval training, anyway).
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Hell, even on my 30'/mile rides, the weight makes a difference. For that matter, it makes a difference even on the 15'/mile rides in bam's neck of the woods! Now maybe if I lived in FL... but who'd want to do that?
GCN just did a thing on rider weight at constant W/kg. On a climb, equal W/kg had Ollie(65kg) and Alex (80kg) riding side by side. On the flat, equal W/kg had Alex leaving Ollie for dead.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Remembering commands, syntax, arguments, etc. Keeps me young.

At least, that's what I want to believe....
I believe you’re correct.

I’d love to get back into some programming (that’s what we called it back in my day) but I’ve been away too long. Some days I wake up and don’t even remember what day it is.
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The cars don't care.
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So it’s a tease, in other words.
Indeed, a tease without a flirt.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
GCN just did a thing on rider weight at constant W/kg. On a climb, equal W/kg had Ollie(65kg) and Alex (80kg) riding side by side. On the flat, equal W/kg had Alex leaving Ollie for dead.
I haven't seen that one but, on a related note, I surprised when Alex said he was 80kg on a different, recent video. He must be tall or dense, because he looks pretty lanky and I would have guessed he weighed less.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
The cars don't care.
^^^... doesn't get it.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I haven't seen that one but, on a related note, I surprised when Alex said he was 80kg on a different, recent video. He must be tall or dense, because he looks pretty lanky and I would have guessed he weighed less.
I think he's tallish. Perhaps seeing him anywhere near Conor makes him look small.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
GCN just did a thing on rider weight at constant W/kg. On a climb, equal W/kg had Ollie(65kg) and Alex (80kg) riding side by side. On the flat, equal W/kg had Alex leaving Ollie for dead.
This is my experience. I have significant problems hanging with the big men on the flats.
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
I wouldn’t use it for much, I don’t use eftp for training because ERG is merciless. Typically I use what an indoor ramp gives me, which is usually 10-15%ess than intervals.

I’ll validate it with a hill effort in the near future. But think it’s possibly an outlier effort.
Originally Posted by WhyFi
Just take it out of ERG and do incline mode, or whatever it's called. I haven't touched ERG in ages (I've kind of turned the Alpe in to my interval training, anyway).
Babies.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
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Don't make me dig up your Alpe PR.


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Don't make me dig up your Alpe PR.


Its slow, but I never made a serious assault on it.
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I'll probably be upgrading my machine and/or grinder soon, but this certainly makes it easier to be a little more patient on both fronts.
If it can help my Rocky prevent channeling, it's a winner.
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