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Old 10-14-13, 05:53 PM
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Forget the [gussied up RockShox Mag 21] fork, how about those cantis!

I would imagine you got a great price on that, nice work.

Sell me those cantis
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^ sweet cantis!
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Old 10-14-13, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dgodave
I just want to throw my NEW mtb into the mix just to show how some bikes have recently stepped backwards, technology wise.
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This amazing bike is not at all far removed from my very first mtb back in 1983. Swap out the disc brakes and indexed shifting, and this exact bike could have been built back then. The innovations here are of design (really big wheels and tires, frame geometry) and not of tech/engineering.
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I wish they'd produce these in a standard 26 inch bike, so I can prod my way through rock gardens easier than on my 2.1 inch tired bike. 29ers are a little too "big handling" for my tastes. I think things are starting to come full circle in the sense that those who have been there and done that are a little wary of $$$ suspension rebuilds on a recurring basis.

That said, that Moots is a pure time capsule.
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Old 10-15-13, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by frantik
^ sweet cantis!
Are those Grafton's ? I have a similar set on an early 90's MArin
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Originally Posted by Chrome Molly
I wish they'd produce these in a standard 26 inch bike, so I can prod my way through rock gardens easier than on my 2.1 inch tired bike. 29ers are a little too "big handling" for my tastes. I think things are starting to come full circle in the sense that those who have been there and done that are a little wary of $$$ suspension rebuilds on a recurring basis.

That said, that Moots is a pure time capsule.
Rims on Pugsleys are 559mm, just like 26" MTB rims. If you want super fat tires with a similar total circumference to your 26x2.1" you'd probably have to go with 3.8" tires on 24" (507mm) rims, or something like that
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Old 10-15-13, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DMC707
Are those Grafton's ? I have a similar set on an early 90's MArin
Nope.

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Old 10-15-13, 12:26 PM
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If you want a Surly mtb with some vintage flare, try a LHT with a mountain-flavor build. If 80s mtbs weren't so plentiful, i'd want to build a fake-retro mtb out of a trucker, just for kicks.
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Old 10-15-13, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrome Molly
I wish they'd produce these in a standard 26 inch bike, so I can prod my way through rock gardens easier than on my 2.1 inch tired bike. 29ers are a little too "big handling" for my tastes. I think things are starting to come full circle in the sense that those who have been there and done that are a little wary of $$$ suspension rebuilds on a recurring basis.

That said, that Moots is a pure time capsule.
For me, the 29" wheels are really important for mitigating the lack of active suspension. And of course, the fat tires too.
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I love the simplicity and I love the way it rides. Its kind of heavy, tho. But I dont care. My racing days are long gone.
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Old 10-15-13, 01:26 PM
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My Moulden was built in this shop with it's orange sister...

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Old 10-15-13, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Aemmer
A beautiful bike yes, but don't think I would agree with you about it being the same as what was available in 1983. Sure Cunningham had already introuduced the sloping top tube but looking at the wheel clearance between that tire and the bent seat tube, the 29" wheels, The tires with real tread etc. that bike has come a long ways from what was offered in 83.

Who made a mass produced seat post that would have been long enough for that frame in 83? Compact crank, 9 (or 10) speed rear cassette etc....


A few of mine from 83/84. Rest assured they have totally different geometry and ride characteristics than what your modern Surley has:
Aemus, judging from your pics I am assuming you are Ductape over at point83. I lurk/occasionally ride with point83, go by "tex."


Awesome rides! When you mention ride characteristics, what are the differences that you notice between something like your Moots and a modern 26" hardtail? Geometry is something that has piqued my interest for a while, but haven't quite wrapped my brain around and am curious how those slack angles affect the ride.
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Old 10-15-13, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dgodave
I just want to throw my NEW mtb into the mix just to show how some bikes have recently stepped backwards, technology wise.
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This amazing bike is not at all far removed from my very first mtb back in 1983. Swap out the disc brakes and indexed shifting, and this exact bike could have been built back then. The innovations here are of design (really big wheels and tires, frame geometry) and not of tech/engineering.
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compact geometry, 29+ tires, threadless 1-1/8" oversided bars, eternal bearing bb, hollow forged cranks, light mechanical disc brakes. indexed shifting... Yeah I'd say a few things have changed, but regardless. How do you like the Krampus and what type of riding do you do on it mostly?
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Originally Posted by DMC707
Are those Grafton's ? I have a similar set on an early 90's MArin
Marin had there own very nice canti's in the early 90's.
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Old 10-15-13, 05:37 PM
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1989 Specialized Stumpjumper Comp with all XT.. even XT pedals snagged off CL.. guy said he had people blowing up his phone but luckily I had emailed him a few hours he had posted. I was trying NOT to buy new bikes but I couldn't say no to this

















paint is deeeeeep purple with some flake in it
if anybody is interested in this frame, it's available for a short time.. otherwise i'm gonna build it up and put it back on CL
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Old 10-15-13, 06:38 PM
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Did not want this good bike to go by uncomplimented. I have the same frame set hanging in my garage. I used it a lot a few years ago, but now it has been sitting while I decide what to do with it. Cool, and very unusual old frame.

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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Rims on Pugsleys are 559mm, just like 26" MTB rims. If you want super fat tires with a similar total circumference to your 26x2.1" you'd probably have to go with 3.8" tires on 24" (507mm) rims, or something like that
I'd even be happy with 2.5-2.8's in something other than a 1200g 26 inch freeride/DH tire. Somebody ought to make a wider or deeper xc tire for rigid bikes that still get taken off road in anger.
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BMX Twins:

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Bike polo bike complete.. for now. Need to try out the gearing and once I settle on something I'll remove the rest of the cassette. until then i can change speeds by adjusting the limit screw, though the chainline is pretty bad on the small/small setting.

22x15.. BEAST GEARING

I think it's the same frame as my "Response Elite"- it has the same decals. It's a super light frame- True Temper double butted Cromoly? With the fork compressed like that, it looks like it has a totally horizontal top tube.
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Old 10-15-13, 10:42 PM
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yeah it's the TT-Lite frame.. very nice.. almost feel bad using it for bike polo but it needs a fair amount of work to make into a rider (at least new fork, new BB, new chainrings), so it's been hanging on my wall for almost a year. at least now it will be used. and yeah i compressed the fork all the way and held it with zip ties to stop any unexpected compression while playing, and to also increase the effective head tube angle for sharper turns. I'm considering putting a smaller tire on the front to increase the HT angle even more

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Amp Dagger: I have over 150 vintage mountain bikes. 75 vintage road bikes. 50 vintage BMX bikes...sorry for posting so much of my junk
Thanks for sharing, that is crazy. What do you do with all of them?
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Originally Posted by WheelTired
Amp Dagger: I have over 150 vintage mountain bikes. 75 vintage road bikes. 50 vintage BMX bikes...sorry for posting so much of my junk





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WheelTired, show them! that's why the thread and forum exist. I'd love to see more of them.
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Old 10-16-13, 05:27 PM
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dang 150 vintage mtbs!? I feel better about myself already
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Haven't posted in a while, but finishing this one made me smile, so....

Seriously vintage.

S&S Bigfoot:

















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That S&S is stupidly hott. I'm jealous.
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That cleaned up nice Steve. What tires?

I need to go back and look at the before Pic.
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