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Here is my setup.
CycleAware mirror on my Giro XEN helmet.
CycleAware mirror on my Giro XEN helmet.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
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"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Do people actually use their mirrors? Out of the 1000 or so riders I have passed wearing, having, displaying, mirrors, only about 2 have seen me coming. Seriously.
If I ring a bell, shout onyerleft, or any kind of warning, most will look up and around like they heard a gunshot trying to figure out where it came from.
OK, maybe more than 2, maybe 4, have seen me coming as I always look into their mirrors to see if they acknowledge my presence. A very large amount of them don't even have the mirrors properly adjusted. Looking into their mirrors, I don't see their eyes. Most times I see sky or a a kneecap.
If I ring a bell, shout onyerleft, or any kind of warning, most will look up and around like they heard a gunshot trying to figure out where it came from.
OK, maybe more than 2, maybe 4, have seen me coming as I always look into their mirrors to see if they acknowledge my presence. A very large amount of them don't even have the mirrors properly adjusted. Looking into their mirrors, I don't see their eyes. Most times I see sky or a a kneecap.
I feel quite vulnerable if I forget the mirror (glasses) so I have attached it to my helmet now.
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Yes, I mentioned that. But still, they do not acknowledge my presence but often look around like they're lost rather then looking back as if to allow other riders to pass safely. If someone is using their mirrors properly, you can see their eyes in the mirror. Many, way too many do not have them set up correctly. I think many of them use it as a fashion thing.
It is really irksome when a fellow cyclist passes closely with no warning.
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Wow. I have never in my recollection in my many years of cycling encountered anyone like that when I have passed them. Maybe I had but just shrugged it off. Must be a local thing I guess.
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Maybe we need a special place on the forum for a thread for proper biking etiquette. I am sure we all know (maybe don't use) proper hand signals to notify drivers behind us of our intentions, but there are likely rules to tell fellow bikers our intentions.
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One thing to know about using the take-a-look mirrors is to be careful of turning into low sun angles in morning (and afternoon).
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I’ve used mirrors for many years and generally speaking, almost never ride without one. The ones I’ve used have all been the plastic/composite type. I’ve had issues (on several) with one of the three clips that allow mounting to the temples of my eye pro frames breaking off. Rather than scrap them, I’ve punched holes into the lower edge of the helmet and glued the remaining clips into the helmet foam. Seems to work fairly well .
I’m liking the metal construction of the “Take-A-Look” mirror and may order one today.
I have used the type of mirror that mounts to the bike before but find them lacking. I do have one that mounts on the top tube up near the head tube and pretty much looks straight back at the seat post. It’s a convex mirror tho so it kinda looks “around” the the seat post. It gives a surprisingly good view to the rear! The main drawback is that the mounting system isn’t very secure and it tends to move out of adjustment easily. I suppose I could make it more stable but it’s a bit more of a novelty than a true asset. Mirrors that are positioned up nearer to my eye (either helmet or glasses mount) seem to work best for me .
I’m liking the metal construction of the “Take-A-Look” mirror and may order one today.
I have used the type of mirror that mounts to the bike before but find them lacking. I do have one that mounts on the top tube up near the head tube and pretty much looks straight back at the seat post. It’s a convex mirror tho so it kinda looks “around” the the seat post. It gives a surprisingly good view to the rear! The main drawback is that the mounting system isn’t very secure and it tends to move out of adjustment easily. I suppose I could make it more stable but it’s a bit more of a novelty than a true asset. Mirrors that are positioned up nearer to my eye (either helmet or glasses mount) seem to work best for me .
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If you aren't on a budget, you might also consider a Garmin Varia. My son has one and it alerts for overtaking cars well before they get to you. It even does a pretty good job at alerting for cyclist overtaking you too, but since the unit is doing a comparison of relative speeds, it sometimes will let a cyclist sneak up on you. It's also an excellent taillight.
I'm not recommending it instead of the mirror, but something else to use in conjunction with the mirror.
I'm not recommending it instead of the mirror, but something else to use in conjunction with the mirror.
Do I still visually check before switching lanes or turning left? Yep. But I’ve never found the Varia to be wrong. Not once.
I think this is the best safety item after a helmet.
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I have been told that I am a little too nice on the bike by ride partners when it comes to encountering others so I don't worry about that.
My issue is that when I pass a fellow cyclist NICELY, they freak out and have no idea what is going on at times. Like they have never heard a bell or onyerleft before. Yes, I say, "howyoudoing?" and greet them with a smile when I pass.
Yes, I can see your eye and I'm sure others can as well. Starting with the body language. Really appreciate considerate cyclists such as yourself, sharing the road with others. You'd be surprised to learn then, that others can see your eye in the mirror. Starts with the body language. One can tell when a cyclist acknowledges the other. It starts with the head movement. I can tell he heard me, adjusted his head to get me in his mirror, then yes, I see the eyes in the small rectangle types.
My issue is that when I pass a fellow cyclist NICELY, they freak out and have no idea what is going on at times. Like they have never heard a bell or onyerleft before. Yes, I say, "howyoudoing?" and greet them with a smile when I pass.
Yes, I can see your eye and I'm sure others can as well. Starting with the body language. Really appreciate considerate cyclists such as yourself, sharing the road with others. You'd be surprised to learn then, that others can see your eye in the mirror. Starts with the body language. One can tell when a cyclist acknowledges the other. It starts with the head movement. I can tell he heard me, adjusted his head to get me in his mirror, then yes, I see the eyes in the small rectangle types.
Yes, I mentioned that. But still, they do not acknowledge my presence but often look around like they're lost rather then looking back as if to allow other riders to pass safely. If someone is using their mirrors properly, you can see their eyes in the mirror. Many, way too many do not have them set up correctly. I think many of them use it as a fashion thing.
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I have been using a CycleAware helmet-mounted mirror since the mid-1990s, and I would now no sooner ride without a mirror than without a helmet. I use it very frequently when riding in traffic.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Sometimes I use the mirror to hang my ball cap when not in use, or in the past year, a face mask.
Other riders use their mirrors for whatever reasons they have and not necessarily for the reasons deemed correct or important by other cyclists; reasons which may not include making eye contact or otherwise communicating with every bicyclist who passes by.
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Seems to me that you are posting comments about what you think is the improper use of mirrors based on what you can or can not see reflected in the mirrors of bicycles being ridden by other people, and your apparent view that the lack of an overt physical or verbal reaction to your presence may be a result of other bicyclists' inability to use a mirror properly.
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So your reading comprehension is lacking. I stated that I am surprised that people use mirrors, then when I call out or ring my bell, they don't realize that there is someone approaching from behind seeing they have mirrors. Pretty simple to understand. Not sure why you think it is a me issue. It isn't. It's a why don't they use their mirror issue. Please don't get yourself banned again trying to cause friction out of something that is not there.
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Y'all been watching too much Fox news
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+1 for Take-A-Look mirror. I wear a helmet and prescription sunglasses too and they work great. There are three things I always wear when riding, every-single-time:
1. Helmet
2. Gloves
3. Take-A-Look mirror
1. Helmet
2. Gloves
3. Take-A-Look mirror
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I'm not on the road much, mostly paved/hardpack trails and use the Cateye BM-45:
https://www.cateye.com/intl/products/accessories/BM-45/
It's unobtrusive, doesn't block my peripheral vision and works for my purposes. I have it on the left side but may get another for the right. I think if I were road riding more I may take a look at the Take-A-Look.
https://www.cateye.com/intl/products/accessories/BM-45/
It's unobtrusive, doesn't block my peripheral vision and works for my purposes. I have it on the left side but may get another for the right. I think if I were road riding more I may take a look at the Take-A-Look.