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Old 06-19-22, 07:18 PM
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Swapping Derailers

i have a 1999 Cannondale F600 mtn. It has three at the plate and 9 on the cassette (27). I currently have Shamano Deore XT and thought I would like to swap to Shamano 105 or Ultegra can I just change the front and rear derailers only.

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Depends on how many speeds/what era.
Provide Model#'s to & from.
Off the top of my head-
Less than 10 cogs, Shimano mountain & road RDER's have the same cable pull.
There are a couple?? exceptions, thus why the need to know model & speeds.

Mountain & road FDER's have a different cable pull.
>9 speed, gets weirder and I'm too ignorant on what works with what, but I think it get less likely to match up.
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Originally Posted by Docnugent
I have a F600 with Deore XT derailers. Can I swap just the front and rear derailers and leave the other components?
Another brilliant question with next to zero details. Which XT? Swap to which derailleurs?
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Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
Depends on how many speeds/what era.
Provide Model#'s to & from.
Off the top of my head-
Less than 10 cogs, Shimano mountain & road RDER's have the same cable pull.
There are a couple?? exceptions, thus why the need to know model & speeds.

Mountain & road FDER's have a different cable pull.
>9 speed, gets weirder and I'm too ignorant on what works with what, but I think it get less likely to match up.
Thank you for helping. i have a 1999 Cannondale F600 mtn. It has three at the plate and 9 on the cassette (27). I currently have Shamano Deore XT and thought I would like to swap to Shamano 105 or Ultegra

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Another brilliant question with next to zero details. Which XT? Swap to which derailleurs?
No need to be a jerk! You could have just stated that I failed to give enough info. To answer question.
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Originally Posted by Docnugent
Thank you for helping. i have a 1999 Cannondale F600 mtn. It has three at the plate and 9 on the cassette (27). I currently have Shamano Deore XT and thought I would like to swap to Shamano 105 or Ultegra
The road RDER probably won't have enough chain wrap capacity or handle the larger cogs.
A "Road" RDER of that era usually specifies a largest cog of 27T.

I swapped from an Altus 8 speed to a Tiagra 9 speed RDER since I tended to use "road" gears on my Rockhopper.
It shifted better with the ALTUS, so I switched back.

You will need a different cassette, but I can't tell you how different.
You still haven't provided model#'s, so I can't help more than that.
Maybe someone else will, but I don't bother to ask twice.
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Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
The road RDER probably won't have enough chain wrap capacity or handle the larger cogs.
A "Road" RDER of that era usually specifies a largest cog of 27T.

I swapped from an Altus 8 speed to a Tiagra 9 speed RDER since I tended to use "road" gears on my Rockhopper.
It shifted better with the ALTUS, so I switched back.

You will need a different cassette, but I can't tell you how different.
You still haven't provided model#'s, so I can't help more than that.
Maybe someone else will, but I don't bother to ask twice.
I have a 1999 F700 Cannondale mtn. bike. Not everything is correct. It has Deore XT but the shifters are bargain based. I am replacing the bottom bracket.
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Originally Posted by Docnugent
i have a 1999 Cannondale F600 mtn. It has three at the plate and 9 on the cassette (27). I currently have Shamano Deore XT and thought I would like to swap to Shamano 105 or Ultegra can I just change the front and rear derailers only.
What do you expect to gain with this change?
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What do you expect to gain with this change?
smoother more reliable shifting. My teeth are pretty worn so it looks like I am going to replace the crank also
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Why don't you change the components that are causing the problem rather than the ones that won't matter?
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New chain & cassette will make the biggest improvement.
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