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Old 05-15-17, 03:20 PM
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Does the brand of rim brake pads matter?

In your experience, is the performance and durability of more expensive name brand rim brake pads significantly better? Or should I just go with the pads that cost the least amount of money?
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Cheap pads generally aren't very good, IMO the best brake pads are the Kool Stop brand.
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Yep, KoolStop pads for me. KB
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Kool-stop pads are outrageously expensive compared to other brand pads if you have to replace them with any regularity, compared to other brand pads. Why do you guys think that they are worth it? Did you compare their performance/durability to other brands?

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Originally Posted by roseml
Kool-stop pads are outrageously expensive if you have to replace them with any regularity, compared to other brand pads. Why do you guys think that they are worth it? Did you compare their performance/durability to other brands?
They stop my bike better than cheaper pads. I'm normally a pretty cheap guy, but this is one area where I'm willing to spend a little extra coin to, you know, avoid injury or death.
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Kool stops are the best. They stop the bike better. IMO.
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"does-brand-rim-brake-pads-matter"

Depends on how badly you need to stop. For a stoplight at the bottom of a steep hill, yes. For the time trial up Mt Washington, no. For commuting most of the time, no, For commuting when someone cuts you off making a right turn, it just might.

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So the difference is purely in stopping power, not in how long the pads last?
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Cheap pads may work well enough if your brakes exert enough force on them to stop you "soon enough".
Else, a better pad may be well worth the extra cost.
Keep in mind, many of the riders go a whole lot faster than some of us, where disproportionately greater stopping power is needed.
Try going down a hill twice as fast as normal and stopping in the same distance.

Many of us just use Kool Stop because we know they work. Brake pad expense is zilch compared to the price of many of our bikes.
I guess if you want to save some money, you could put cheap pads on the rear only.
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Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
Brake pad expense is zilch compared to the price of many of our bikes.
That depends on how often you have to replace them.
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Originally Posted by roseml
That depends on how often you have to replace them.
IF you can't afford good pads, then buy cheap ones and quit sounding like a 12 year old.
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Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
IF you can't afford good pads, then buy cheap ones and quit sounding like a 12 year old.
It's not about being able to afford anything, it's about wasting money or not. About how many miles do you go on a set of kool-stop pads?
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If I had to spend $26 each month for confidence in my brakes that wouldn't be a waste of money to me. I just got some, but I'm sure they will last longer than that.
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Originally Posted by roseml
It's not about being able to afford anything, it's about wasting money or not. About how many miles do you go on a set of kool-stop pads?
Thousands of miles. I only use my brakes when I have too, and I ride most of my miles on paved bike trails so braking is rarely required. Koolstops perform better than any other pad I have tried - my method of selection is to start cheap and move up in cost until I find something that works for me. Koolstops work.

That said, the OEM pads on Avid SD-5 V brakes work well also, and have not been replaced yet. The pads that came with Tektro CR720 cantis were not good, Koolstop replacements are good.

When pads need replacing, they are replaced with Koolstops.

I have purchased cheap MTB pads assemblies just for the M6 spherical washers, and tossed the pads....
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Swissstop pads are also good. For pad durability, you should also consider mounting decent rim brakes. Lousy brakes eat up pads faster than good. The degree to which the pad longevity matters obviously depends on whether your riding is incidental or regular.
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Originally Posted by roseml
Kool-stop pads are outrageously expensive compared to other brand pads if you have to replace them with any regularity, compared to other brand pads. Why do you guys think that they are worth it? Did you compare their performance/durability to other brands?
Rim brake pads are amongst the cheapest parts of your average bike to replace. I have spent more on low grade bar tape. They are also the most important safety feature of your bike. To me, this makes the price of high quality pads a no brainer. A set of koolstops that will decrease braking time by 30-50% over stock Shimano, that will last 4-5 years at 120+ miles of road riding in traffic per week at cheaper than the price to take your significant other out to Olive Garden - to me, is worth the chance that it could keep me from colliding with a car. There is a good reason you received a high number of Koolstop recommendations immediately after starting the thread. It's not placebo effect.
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Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
...Many of us just use Kool Stop because we know they work. Brake pad expense is zilch compared to the price of many of our bikes.
I dislike pain and medical bills, and I place a pretty high value on my skin, bones and skull contents, so I don't cheap out on safety-related items, including brakes.
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I had a set of Campagnolo pads on a commuter for 10 years
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I've found Avid pads to be good. Have had good luck with Kool Stop, too, maybe better than Avid, or maybe I have been influenced by all the Kool Stop chreerleaders. (I have been know to lead cheers for Kool Stop on occasion.)
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Get hydraulic disc brakes. The stop 7 meters sooner than rim brakes in the wet.
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So when I rebuilt my bike a few years ago I went to forums to get input and found the same advice: KoolStop. With as many positive comments as I heard, I felt that was the way to go, and glad I did. They work very well.

As to price, it's been a while. I just went to 2 online vendors and see 2-pad sets of KoolStops for under $10. There are lots of other brands both below and above that, but around the $8-15 range is where most seem to be. Unless you need something more exotic for carbon wheels or something. Generally for me I'd say 10 bucks is worth it to get a known and reliable result.
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Originally Posted by roseml
Kool-stop pads are outrageously expensive compared to other brand pads...
Then you have apparently never heard of SwissStop.
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Originally Posted by Vintage Raleigh
I had a set of Campagnolo pads on a commuter for 10 years
+1 on Campy pads.. they just work. As a backup set I have a packaged set of Swisstop BXPs (blue) ready to go, which i'm also a fan of.
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Rim brakes don't stop in the wet.

It's like asking what WWE diva could beat up Mike Tyson in his prime.

Joke thread is a joke.
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Originally Posted by roseml
Kool-stop pads are outrageously expensive compared to other brand pads if you have to replace them with any regularity, compared to other brand pads. Why do you guys think that they are worth it? Did you compare their performance/durability to other brands?
What kind of riding are you doing that you're going through pads at such a great rate?
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