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Old 08-16-10, 03:59 PM
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State TTT...pulling the frieght train.



EDR tailgunning after a pull as his team heads for the win...


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Old 08-16-10, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy
those are big shoulders for a bike racer
You talkin' bout me? or the guy in green? Cause I'm really not very big.
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Old 08-16-10, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by johnybutts
You talkin' bout me? or the guy in green? Cause I'm really not very big.
you. it could be the white.
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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy
those are big shoulders for a bike racer
Well... this was the winning Cat 3 team (the big guy, 2nd wheel, is a friend of mine). He was actually dropping his teammates in the valleys of the hills...



The only guy there that looks like he might be a bike racer is the cross-eyed waif at the back looking for more oxygen.

(actually the big guy is not a bike racer, but a pretty strong triathlete)
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Old 08-16-10, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer Ex
State TTT...pulling the frieght train.

EDR tailgunning after a pull as his team heads for the win...
nice positions, both of you...
Ex- it looks like your elbow pads are touching? That's impressively tight.
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Old 08-16-10, 04:39 PM
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You guys and all your fancy aero gear and super low aero positions actually make time trials look fun. How deceptive.
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Old 08-16-10, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Hida Yanra
nice positions, both of you...
Ex- it looks like your elbow pads are touching? That's impressively tight.
If I'm not mistaken, his pad is a single pad which fits both elbows. =O
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Old 08-16-10, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by johnybutts
If I'm not mistaken, his pad is a single pad which fits both elbows. =O
Yep. I form fitted it to the exact width and angle of my arms...you can see how it narrows back to front. I'm locked in enough where I don't have to hold on very tight...definitely adds control.

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Old 08-16-10, 05:01 PM
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I don't see a bike in that picture, just some lines in a T shape
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Originally Posted by Racer Ex
I'm locked in enough where I don't have to hold on very tight...definitely adds control.
In the interests of heading to a fitting later this week.... I'm headed in to my fitter to get my TT position adjusted and such and I've got my elbows in pretty darn tight (the rests are almost touching), but my elbows feel like if I hit a big bump they might pop over the outside of the cups. Your rest looks like the sides are much higher than typical... is it an off-the-shelf system, or a one-off? (My spidey-sense says that it is about as bespoke as the aerobars)
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Old 08-16-10, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Hida Yanra
In the interests of heading to a fitting later this week.... I'm headed in to my fitter to get my TT position adjusted and such and I've got my elbows in pretty darn tight (the rests are almost touching), but my elbows feel like if I hit a big bump they might pop over the outside of the cups. Your rest looks like the sides are much higher than typical... is it an off-the-shelf system, or a one-off? (My spidey-sense says that it is about as bespoke as the aerobars)
Custom made from aluminum sheet. Very easy to do with some basic hand tools...likely you can install on your existing rest mounts. Having the sides up a bit adds a huge amount of support, I've had my hands knocked loose but my elbows stayed in place. If you decide to go this route PM me.

Fits on TT bikes are very individual; there's a lot of folks that do tri type fits that aren't very aero. Be good to get some field test data before and after, and power data if you can. The art is in finding the sweet spot between good aero and good power.
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Old 08-16-10, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer Ex
Custom made <snip> If you decide to go this route PM me.

Having the sides up a bit adds a huge amount of support

Fits on TT bikes are very individual
thank you as always for the good advice.
I'll probably hit you up when I get stircrazy over the winter...
The setup makes a huge amount of sense - I've been fighting that issue on every ride so far w/ the TT rig.

the caution on the fit quotient is appreciated - having come from over from the tri side, I've experienced just how different those ideas can be.

that said, my fitter is a cat1 with good credentials:

and

so I trust her.


My first TT on the road this year I got absolutely massacred... it was ugly.
This next year will be a different story - I'll actually be training for stage-race length TTs, and I'll have a position to match.

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Old 08-16-10, 08:05 PM
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Sucking it up in the ITT. Goal = Fail. But, I shaved a minute off last years time on a slower course so , meh.

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Old 08-16-10, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Nate552
Sucking it up in the ITT. Goal = Fail. But, I shaved a minute off last years time on a slower course so , meh.

That's a great looking position. That skintsuit's got to go though. Maybe something in white with an orange and blue waffle print...
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Old 08-17-10, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Nate552
Sucking it up in the ITT. Goal = Fail. But, I shaved a minute off last years time on a slower course so , meh.

Originally Posted by waterrockets
That's a great looking position. That skintsuit's got to go though. Maybe something in white with an orange and blue waffle print...
funny, I was flipping through the album on facebook and wondered if that wasn't you... great position man - if you can get any power out, that's stellar. (and I assume you can)
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Old 08-17-10, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
Well... this was the winning Cat 3 team (the big guy, 2nd wheel, is a friend of mine). He was actually dropping his teammates in the valleys of the hills...



The only guy there that looks like he might be a bike racer is the cross-eyed waif at the back looking for more oxygen.

(actually the big guy is not a bike racer, but a pretty strong triathlete)
I can see where the Pearl Izumi folks got their ideas for that radical spidey skinsuit.
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Originally Posted by Hida Yanra
funny, I was flipping through the album on facebook and wondered if that wasn't you... great position man - if you can get any power out, that's stellar. (and I assume you can)
Thanks, I lose about 6 watts at ftp in that position. WR, I missed the skinsuit order!
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Old 08-17-10, 07:00 AM
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We'll get you hooked up for '11
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Old 08-17-10, 07:36 AM
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How do you get to wear the USA skinsuit? National TT champ, or Olympic team or something? That's badass.
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Old 08-17-10, 07:45 AM
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They are easy enough to find on ebay with a little patience.
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Old 08-17-10, 07:59 AM
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Oh. that's dissapointing. I figured he was actually a national champ or something. Seems kinda like wearing a national champ jersey to me.
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Originally Posted by Flatballer
Oh. that's dissapointing. I figured he was actually a national champ or something. Seems kinda like wearing a national champ jersey to me.
Its not a national champ jersey, its just the track kit the us track team wore a few years ago.
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ah. Gotcha.
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how about just suffering?
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Crossing the finish line at a local TT. I'm a huge noob and don't have proper attire or aero ****. It's still fun though.



Here are the stats for the race:
https://connect.garmin.com/activity/44637147 (first split only... i hit lap instead of stop on my garmin)
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