Peugeot PSV10M58 x 2
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Peugeot PSV10M58 x 3
Dear Peugeot Lovers,
I was asked to start new thread for these PSV10 bikes. https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...nd-peugot.html
Catalog says that Mont Cenis should be PSN10 but label in my bikes says PSV10, I do not know why?
In catalog it says also that it comes with Campa parts. Mine is with Simplex and Stronglight.
I have two of them, serialnumbers: 4774692 and 4774693. Yes they are really two on a row from product line.
These bikes are found from local bike shop here in Finland (North Europe). Importer was Helkama, who still produces Jopo bikes here in Finland, not in Taiwan I believe that this bikes were left to stock because end of -80 was big time for ATB's or MTB's. No one wanted racebikes.
An other has been in daily use three years now, around 2500km. This picture was taken after 500km. Bike is originally with tubulars, I build new wheels with Mavic 500 hubs and period correct rims. Originals are on the shelf. Those winter pics there is still original tubulars, but not glued. Original gluetube is still safe. Original bartapes are white. I assembled black ones for the one for daily ride.
Second one is still on box.
Few details:
If you want more detailed pictures or information of original parts of this bike, do not hesitate to ask.
I was asked to start new thread for these PSV10 bikes. https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...nd-peugot.html
Catalog says that Mont Cenis should be PSN10 but label in my bikes says PSV10, I do not know why?
In catalog it says also that it comes with Campa parts. Mine is with Simplex and Stronglight.
I have two of them, serialnumbers: 4774692 and 4774693. Yes they are really two on a row from product line.
These bikes are found from local bike shop here in Finland (North Europe). Importer was Helkama, who still produces Jopo bikes here in Finland, not in Taiwan I believe that this bikes were left to stock because end of -80 was big time for ATB's or MTB's. No one wanted racebikes.
An other has been in daily use three years now, around 2500km. This picture was taken after 500km. Bike is originally with tubulars, I build new wheels with Mavic 500 hubs and period correct rims. Originals are on the shelf. Those winter pics there is still original tubulars, but not glued. Original gluetube is still safe. Original bartapes are white. I assembled black ones for the one for daily ride.
Second one is still on box.
Few details:
If you want more detailed pictures or information of original parts of this bike, do not hesitate to ask.
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I think the full designation was PSV10-N, so it may have been a catalog misprint. Not really sure... Possibly someone like @miamijim would know what the "N" suffix indicated?
Anyway, you have an absolutely beautiful bike there, mrvelo. The lion pantographed fork crown is the icing on the cake.
Anyway, you have an absolutely beautiful bike there, mrvelo. The lion pantographed fork crown is the icing on the cake.
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mrvelo: Peugeot spec'd bikes differently for each market. US bikes may have different specs than EU bikes. What are the serial numbers stamped into the metal under the crank area?
N = clincher tires regardless of it being a prefix of suffix
PSN10 = PSV10 N
N = clincher tires regardless of it being a prefix of suffix
PSN10 = PSV10 N
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The PSVs are most likely from 1985 because of the expanding quill type Atax seatpost used on it. It would be really nice to keep the two bikes with the consecutive build numbers together as it is so rare such come up. These mid level bikes are some of the last that Peugeot made with French Vitus steel tubing and Peugeot was easing into using more and more parts and components on most of their bikes that are not French, so they kind of symbolize an end of an era for Peugeot, as the bicycling manufacturing business was irreversibly going more "global" back then.
IIRC, in a year or two more, Peugeot quit using the Supervitus 980 tubing on their upper mid level bikes, and replaced it mostly with Reynolds 501 tubing.
Congratulations on the great Peugeot find!
Please keep us posted on how you might be assembling and preserving them for the future!
IIRC, in a year or two more, Peugeot quit using the Supervitus 980 tubing on their upper mid level bikes, and replaced it mostly with Reynolds 501 tubing.
Congratulations on the great Peugeot find!
Please keep us posted on how you might be assembling and preserving them for the future!
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Upea!! True time capsules. I am glad they found their way to such a good owner who will ride and enjoy them, and most of all preserve them. Let me say I love the way my Super Vitus 980 framed Peugeots ride!
I would like to request some more pictures, but up close. Front derailleur, rear derailleur, brakes, and seat post cluster.
I would like to request some more pictures, but up close. Front derailleur, rear derailleur, brakes, and seat post cluster.
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I found third PSV10 bike. This one is older than two first ones. There is small differencies. For my understanding everything is original and in excellent condition, only one tube has changed. Here you are some pictures.
I have also 60cm same age. Pics later. Condition is not that good yet.
I have also 60cm same age. Pics later. Condition is not that good yet.
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Peugeot PSV-10 and later Super Vitus 980 bikes.
Peugeot introduced the PSV-10 model into the US around 1982. I have a 1983 PSV-10 that I bought as a partial bike - no wheels or seat. I have all of the parts, someday I need to finish assembling it.
The "SV" in the PSV model number stood for Super Vitus tubing.
The French tubing manufacturer Ateliers de la Rive made 3 favors of Super Vitus: 971 - early 70's through early 80's, 980 - late 70's to late 80's and 783 - early through mid 80's.
Super Vitus 971 had the same strength and tube wall thicknesses as Columbus SL tubing. SV980 used the same high strength low alloy steel as SV971 but the tubing wall thickness was thinner which made lighter frames. While not as strong as Reynolds 753, SV980 was slightly lighter. SV983 tubing wall thickness was between SV971 and SV980, it was made from a super alloy steel which produced frames as strong as any on the market at the time!
Super Vitus tubing was highly underrated! It was used on many top quality French bikes plus some of the top US frame builders used it (unbeknownst to a lot of their customers).
Note: Ateliers de la Rive used the name "VITUS" from the 1930's through the 1990's. It was originally used for their best quality tubes, then middle, then lower, then top of the line tube sets again. Super Vitus tubes were their top products while they were being produced.
Ateliers de la Rive history (needs some fine tuning):
Vitus history by Norris Lockley
In the mid 80's Peugeot started using model names (Mont Cenis, Galibier, Ventoux, Arravitz, etc.)rather than model number (U08, PX10, PSV1, etc.).
As someone pointed out above, Peugeot as well as, Motobecane, Gitane, Raleigh and Bianchi made models for specific world markets: France, Benilux countries, Germany, Poland, Hungary and other east Bloc countries, the UK, the US, Canada, Australia, Japan and so on.
The Mont Cenis bikes were made for specific markets.
I have 4 bikes made of Super Vitus 980.
I bought a 1988 Peugeot Biarritz with a SV980 frame and a Shimano 600 "Tricolor" gruppo. The bike had less than 100 miles on it! I'd been looking for my "just right" Goldilocks bike since 1975... I found it!
I liked the bike SO MUCH that I found a bare frame and put it together with similar components to use as a rider keeping the newer one as a wall hanger. It rides and handles perfectly! The SV980 frame absorbs most road shocks and vibrations! Pictures at 11:00... (see below)
BTW, I have a 1988 Peugeot Chorus made of Reynolds 753 tubing. With the same tires, tire pressures etc. the Biarritz is a much smoother riding bike!
The "SV" in the PSV model number stood for Super Vitus tubing.
The French tubing manufacturer Ateliers de la Rive made 3 favors of Super Vitus: 971 - early 70's through early 80's, 980 - late 70's to late 80's and 783 - early through mid 80's.
Super Vitus 971 had the same strength and tube wall thicknesses as Columbus SL tubing. SV980 used the same high strength low alloy steel as SV971 but the tubing wall thickness was thinner which made lighter frames. While not as strong as Reynolds 753, SV980 was slightly lighter. SV983 tubing wall thickness was between SV971 and SV980, it was made from a super alloy steel which produced frames as strong as any on the market at the time!
Super Vitus tubing was highly underrated! It was used on many top quality French bikes plus some of the top US frame builders used it (unbeknownst to a lot of their customers).
Note: Ateliers de la Rive used the name "VITUS" from the 1930's through the 1990's. It was originally used for their best quality tubes, then middle, then lower, then top of the line tube sets again. Super Vitus tubes were their top products while they were being produced.
Ateliers de la Rive history (needs some fine tuning):
Vitus history by Norris Lockley
In the mid 80's Peugeot started using model names (Mont Cenis, Galibier, Ventoux, Arravitz, etc.)rather than model number (U08, PX10, PSV1, etc.).
As someone pointed out above, Peugeot as well as, Motobecane, Gitane, Raleigh and Bianchi made models for specific world markets: France, Benilux countries, Germany, Poland, Hungary and other east Bloc countries, the UK, the US, Canada, Australia, Japan and so on.
The Mont Cenis bikes were made for specific markets.
I have 4 bikes made of Super Vitus 980.
I bought a 1988 Peugeot Biarritz with a SV980 frame and a Shimano 600 "Tricolor" gruppo. The bike had less than 100 miles on it! I'd been looking for my "just right" Goldilocks bike since 1975... I found it!
I liked the bike SO MUCH that I found a bare frame and put it together with similar components to use as a rider keeping the newer one as a wall hanger. It rides and handles perfectly! The SV980 frame absorbs most road shocks and vibrations! Pictures at 11:00... (see below)
BTW, I have a 1988 Peugeot Chorus made of Reynolds 753 tubing. With the same tires, tire pressures etc. the Biarritz is a much smoother riding bike!
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Whether SV980 will ever be regarded as highly as Reynolds 753 or Columbus SLX, is doubtful, but most SV980 framed bike owners knows that there is certainly something special about how bikes made with the tubeset rides....
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Seat post 80s Peugeot
[QUOTE=Chombi1;18984771]
I have a 1980s Reynolds 501 Peugeot frame similar to the above picture here which like some Peugoets has no built in locking nut/clamp on the seat post. Instead it has a bolt through the post about 10cm down. Can anyone tell me what kind of post I need, or where to get an expanding one?!
I have a 1980s Reynolds 501 Peugeot frame similar to the above picture here which like some Peugoets has no built in locking nut/clamp on the seat post. Instead it has a bolt through the post about 10cm down. Can anyone tell me what kind of post I need, or where to get an expanding one?!
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You need a quill post made by Atax. It has a expanding wedge at the bottom of the post that grips the walls of the seat tube, just like a stem does to a steerer tube.
The Atax seatpost is hard to find (and quite expensive), especially in good usable condition, as the plastic (Delrin) seat rail clamp components break down and crack apart if exposed to UV light for many years. So look carefully at the condition of the plastic parts before buying a used one. If the look bleached out/grey is in color, that is a bad sign. Look for one where the plastic clamp parts look fresher, as replacement parts of the post is now "unobtainium".......
The Atax seatpost is hard to find (and quite expensive), especially in good usable condition, as the plastic (Delrin) seat rail clamp components break down and crack apart if exposed to UV light for many years. So look carefully at the condition of the plastic parts before buying a used one. If the look bleached out/grey is in color, that is a bad sign. Look for one where the plastic clamp parts look fresher, as replacement parts of the post is now "unobtainium".......
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Just got a light metallic blue PSV-10 off ebay, everything went well putting it together, but will need new bottom bracket, any suggestions?
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I do not remember any PSV's in blue 1984 and earlier.
The production year of the bike is significant, as 1984 was kind of the last year that PSV's had Swiss threaded BB. Still did not guarantee that a post 84 PSV will not have a Swiss threaded BB, but there will be mich more of a chance that it will be English threaded.
Regarding BB choices, you can still find good Swiss threaded Stronglight BB's at eBay once in a while (I think I even saw one from Mavic being sold, not too long ago) but if you really need one right away, Phill Wood swiss threaded cartridge cups and BB cartridges are readily available, but will be quite expensive. If the BB turns turns out to be English threaded, then there are tons out there to choose from. Just get the right spindle legnth and taper for your crankset.
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Responded with email containing the original ebay ad. Did it get back? It appears to be all original except front wheel, replaced wheel set with some Mavic hub clinchers. A very nice ride compared to my other bikes, not better, but nice in a different way. And that includes a couple of Chas Roberts.
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