Pet peeves
#51
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,794
Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3513 Post(s)
Liked 2,927 Times
in
1,776 Posts
That's a flawed syllogism. Dictionaries generally don't include phrases. Tension meter describes the device accurately in the same way as "volt meter" would to an electric
So both are right, but I'll venture that Tension Meter would be clearer than Tensiometer to the uninitiated.
FWIW - "tensiometer" can also mean a device to measure blood pressure, on in another context. something to measure soil moisture content.
So both are right, but I'll venture that Tension Meter would be clearer than Tensiometer to the uninitiated.
FWIW - "tensiometer" can also mean a device to measure blood pressure, on in another context. something to measure soil moisture content.
#52
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: northern Deep South
Posts: 8,904
Bikes: Fuji Touring, Novara Randonee
Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2604 Post(s)
Liked 1,933 Times
in
1,213 Posts
Fun times!
#53
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 1,236
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 501 Post(s)
Liked 435 Times
in
334 Posts
A cog is a tooth on a gearwheel called a cogwheel. A cogwheel engages with another cogwheel. A sprocket is a chainwheel, it engages with a chain. Every time someone refers to sprockets as cogs a kitten dies.
#54
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 12,906
Bikes: (2) ti TiCycles, 2007 w/ triple and 2011 fixed, 1979 Peter Mooney, ~1983 Trek 420 now fixed and ~1973 Raleigh Carlton Competition gravel grinder
Mentioned: 129 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4806 Post(s)
Liked 3,932 Times
in
2,557 Posts
Webster New Collegiate, 1953. 1) Cog: a tooth on the rim of a wheel; hence , a gear tooth. 2) A person functioning as part of a process or organization.
Sounds to me like any sprocket for chain qualifies. (Yes, I know I can kill small cats with my chainwhip/cog wrench but I like to think they survive my routine gearing changes just fine.)
Sounds to me like any sprocket for chain qualifies. (Yes, I know I can kill small cats with my chainwhip/cog wrench but I like to think they survive my routine gearing changes just fine.)
#55
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Posts: 38,725
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5792 Post(s)
Liked 2,582 Times
in
1,432 Posts
Hey! I've finally made the cut.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
Likes For FBinNY:
#56
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Posts: 38,725
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5792 Post(s)
Liked 2,582 Times
in
1,432 Posts
Webster New Collegiate, 1953. 1) Cog: a tooth on the rim of a wheel; hence , a gear tooth. 2) A person functioning as part of a process or organization.
Sounds to me like any sprocket for chain qualifies. (Yes, I know I can kill small cats with my chainwhip/cog wrench but I like to think they survive my routine gearing changes just fine.)
Sounds to me like any sprocket for chain qualifies. (Yes, I know I can kill small cats with my chainwhip/cog wrench but I like to think they survive my routine gearing changes just fine.)
But, No because by the definition YOU cited, the cog is (hey Google, not corgis) is one of the teeth on the sprocket.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
#57
Senior Member
And no, many (if not most) dictionaries of the English language don't exhaustively list all known compound nouns. I daresay that even the Oxford English Dictionary, with over 270k entries, doesn't have all of them listed and defined.
Last edited by Hondo6; 10-11-22 at 05:39 PM.
#59
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: San Jose
Posts: 1,025
Bikes: Blur / Ibis Hakka MX / team machince alr2 / topstone 1
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 426 Post(s)
Liked 274 Times
in
201 Posts
something about $1000 an ounce for $30 chain vs say automatic transmission fluid meant to work on 10k transmission and it somehow only cost $1 an ounce.
that's some crazy marketing wizardry
for now I am just using muc off from the LBS
#60
Happy With My Bikes
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 2,187
Bikes: Hi-Ten bike boomers, a Trek Domane and some projects
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 884 Post(s)
Liked 2,308 Times
in
1,118 Posts
It bothers me more than it should when people use Campy instead of just typing Campagnolo.
__________________
"It is the unknown around the corner that turns my wheels." -- Heinz Stücke
"It is the unknown around the corner that turns my wheels." -- Heinz Stücke
Likes For Chuck M:
#61
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Kips Bay, NY
Posts: 2,212
Bikes: Ritchey Swiss Cross | Teesdale Kona Hot | Haro Extreme | Specialized Stumpjumper Comp | Cannondale F1000 | Shogun 1000 | Cannondale M500 | Norco Charger | Marin Muirwoods 29er | Shogun Kaze | Breezer Lightning
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 576 Post(s)
Liked 1,003 Times
in
488 Posts
#62
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,794
Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3513 Post(s)
Liked 2,927 Times
in
1,776 Posts
When I was first getting into bikes in the mid-80s, l’d go check out bike books from the college library. Many (most?) were written during the 1970s bike boom. “Campy” was apparently a common nickname back then, and I’ve used it. I will agree that “Campag” for me sounds like shifting a bike chain coated in sand.
#63
SE Wis
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 10,516
Bikes: '68 Raleigh Sprite, '02 Raleigh C500, '84 Raleigh Gran Prix, '91 Trek 400, 2013 Novara Randonee, 1990 Trek 970
Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2747 Post(s)
Liked 3,401 Times
in
2,058 Posts
Priced ATF lately? Recently changed fluid in a couple 4L60E and got sticker shock. But still not even anywhere near $1/oz
#64
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
Posts: 9,579
Bikes: '65 Frejus TDF, '73 Bottecchia Giro d'Italia, '83 Colnago Superissimo, '84 Trek 610, '84 Trek 760, '88 Pinarello Veneto, '88 De Rosa Pro, '89 Pinarello Montello, '94 Burley Duet, 97 Specialized RockHopper, 2010 Langster, Tern Link D8
Mentioned: 73 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1608 Post(s)
Liked 2,216 Times
in
1,103 Posts
Likes For SJX426:
#65
Full Member
Did the OP’s run-on sentence bug you?
“It probably doesn't matter much regarding brake or gear cables since the job gets done either way, however it muddies the thinking in things like wheel alignment or building.”
“It probably doesn't matter much regarding brake or gear cables since the job gets done either way, however it muddies the thinking in things like wheel alignment or building.”
Likes For daveed:
#66
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: San Diego
Posts: 704
Bikes: 1978 Bruce Gordon, 1977 Lippy, 199? Lippy tandem, Bike Friday NWT, 1982 Trek 720, 2012 Rivendell Atlantis, 1983 Bianchi Specialissima?
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 346 Post(s)
Liked 175 Times
in
107 Posts
When small bits fall to the floor and roll off to parts unknown.
#67
I don't know.
Join Date: May 2003
Location: South Meriden, CT
Posts: 2,015
Bikes: '90 B'stone RB-1, '92 B'stone RB-2, '89 SuperGo Access Comp, '03 Access 69er, '23 Trek 520, '14 Ritchey Road Logic, '09 Kestrel Evoke, '08 Windsor Tourist, '17 Surly Wednesday, '89 Centurion Accordo, '15 CruX, '17 Ridley X-Night, '89 Marinoni
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 317 Post(s)
Liked 853 Times
in
446 Posts
^^ that's funny and true. I found two ball bearings on garage floor last night. So I probably have two hubs with the wrong ball count.
#68
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Mission Viejo
Posts: 5,806
Bikes: 1986 Cannondale SR400 (Flat bar commuter), 1988 Cannondale Criterium XTR, 1992 Serotta T-Max, 1995 Trek 970
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1944 Post(s)
Liked 2,164 Times
in
1,323 Posts
Heck, even the players use them for each other.
John
#70
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Jose (Willow Glen) Ca
Posts: 9,847
Bikes: Kirk Custom JK Special, '84 Team Miyata,(dura ace old school) 80?? SR Semi-Pro 600 Arabesque
Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2338 Post(s)
Liked 2,827 Times
in
1,543 Posts
Rock and roll gold $8 for 4 oz so $2 an oz for purpose designed product
Chain-L $12 for 4 oz so $3 an oz for purpose designed product
at the hi end
Silca super secret at $45 for 8oz so $5.64 or so an oz
__________________
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)
Likes For squirtdad:
#71
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: San Jose
Posts: 1,025
Bikes: Blur / Ibis Hakka MX / team machince alr2 / topstone 1
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 426 Post(s)
Liked 274 Times
in
201 Posts
Seems like the chemical eng that designed auto oil and auto trans fluid should design bicycle chain lube :-)
#72
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Mich
Posts: 7,395
Bikes: RSO E-tire dropper fixie brifter
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked 2,979 Times
in
1,920 Posts
#73
Method to My Madness
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Orange County, California
Posts: 3,663
Bikes: Trek FX 2, Cannondale Synapse, Cannondale CAAD4, Santa Cruz Stigmata GRX
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1948 Post(s)
Liked 1,471 Times
in
1,020 Posts
Space-age engineering: How the Jetsons undermined the understanding of an entire (gear) industry (motioncontroltips.com)
#74
Method to My Madness
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Orange County, California
Posts: 3,663
Bikes: Trek FX 2, Cannondale Synapse, Cannondale CAAD4, Santa Cruz Stigmata GRX
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1948 Post(s)
Liked 1,471 Times
in
1,020 Posts
Likes For SoSmellyAir:
#75
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 1,236
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 501 Post(s)
Liked 435 Times
in
334 Posts
The article linked below states that "cog" is a broader term that covers a "sprocket."
Space-age engineering: How the Jetsons undermined the understanding of an entire (gear) industry (motioncontroltips.com)
Space-age engineering: How the Jetsons undermined the understanding of an entire (gear) industry (motioncontroltips.com)
That's backwards - a cog is a tooth on a cog wheel, a cog wheel is a gear wheel, a sprocket is a gear wheel, but a sprocket is not a cog wheel and sprocket teeth are not cogs because cogs engage with cogs not chains.