Smaug1

Looks like a fun little fat-tired BMX. How's the quality compared to other eBikes you've got experience with?

What is causing the area between the spokes to light up in that last pic?

It looks like retro-reflective material, but there doesn't appear to be any, in the previous pix.

tds101 

For a single speed 20" wheeled fat tire ebike (750w motor, 52v, 15.6ah) it's a fun, fast ride. I'm loving it honestly. I was contemplating adding a 7 speed 11-28t freewheel, but the single speed simplicity is too good to change out. As for speed, I got it up to 28mph, and I probably could have gone a bit faster, if I'd been willing to pedal like CraZy,... It's a fabulous ride.

Concerning the reflectivity of the spokes in the one pic, I have snap on reflectors on them. I used the camera flash in that pic, and night mode in the other. I bought them from Amazon,...
Salzmann 3M Spoke Reflectors for Bicycles | High Visibility | Made with 3M Scotchlite | 72 Pieces Silver https://a.co/d/7dZlo5B

Smaug1

28 mph on any kind of bicycle is VERY fast. Maybe a bit TOO fast on 20" wheels?

Interesting, about the spoke reflectors.

Looks like you turbo'd the headlight situation too.

When you said single speed, I raised my eyebrows, as I saw what appears to be a rear derailleur. I guess that's just for chain tensioning purposes then.

What is the single speed geared for, at a comfortable cadence, 20 mph?

You never answered about quality; I'm curious, as I was thinking about one of their eMopeds in the future.

Edward1066

I'm curious, the bike in the photos is a multi geared bike. Rear derailleur and 7 speeds, if I'm not mistaken. Seems like you're not actually talking about your ride impressions, but, more like you're parroting an advertising boilerplate list of talking points...

Smaug1

Juiced’s specs also say single speed. What looks like a derailleur Seems to be just a chain tensioner.

I think you owe him an apology.

Check for yourself at the link he provided early in the thread.

tds101 

You're mistaken. If you have a problem with anything I've posted report it to the moderators. Otherwise I'm not really going to respond to a troll post again,...
You asked about quality, and I basically went over what I liked about the bike. I haven't gotten into the negatives yet, due to my lack of adequate time in the saddle. I'll give you a few impressions so far.

The quality remains to be seen, but it seems like it's pretty well built. The 275lb weight limit is probably below what it can handle. This thing is solid.

Battery life is below what id expected, but that's most likely from unlocking the speed limit. I see the larger battery in my future.

Speed wise, where I live it's mostly open roads, so it's not as precarious to ride this fast, due to the lack of people and cars getting in your path.

It's definitely a single speed. The rear has a chain tensioner, but there's a cable guide to easily upgrade to a derailleur. I'm just not really feeling the need to upgrade it, due to the ease of cleaning it up after beach riding. Nothing to jam, go out of alignment, etc. The current gearing is high, so if there's no battery power it'll be a nightmare to ride. The weight is also up there. With all the accessories added, we're looking at, at least, 70lbs. It's nimble due to the smaller fat tires, but HEAVY.

Back to the battery. It's annoying that I need to remove the battery to turn the bike on OR off, and it takes effort to get it back into the frame. It's good that no one can just get on and ride away under power, but an accessable key power switch would have been so much more convenient.

The headlight is bright, and would work in an emergency. It can be used by itself, since it's around 1000 lumens. It's very bright. The fact it's so low is an issue. It doesn't project far enough, so I'm using my 2000 lumen rechargeable e-vehicle light. Works perfectly fine for me.

It has it's pros and cons, but I'd buy this bike again in a heartbeat. Even with it's little annoyances, it's a solid purchase. I like it better than the other ebikes I own/ed. This is, IMO, a keeper.

Edward1066

I apologize, evidently, I was mistaken. Thank you for clarifying tds101.

tds101 

No problem. I might have jumped the gun there myself, since I've dealt with a few undesirable individuals lately. Hopefully this answered a few questions about the ebike.

2old

BTW, tds, good initial review; you should be doing them instead of some of the hacks on YouTube.

cat0020

Maybe if you've tried producing a few Youtube videos, you'd know how much work is involved by "some of those hacks"?

Battery mounting on the RipRacer seems to be more complicated than the Juiced Scorpion that I had,
with a crossmember above the battery makes access more difficult, but crucial for the rigidity of the frame with short wheelbase.
I suspect the short wheelbase contributes to the nimble feel of the bike, fat tires usually makes the bike handling more sluggish.

tds101 

I considered doing YouTube reviews, but I (unfortunately) lack garage space to accommodate the bikes - NO GARAGE!
Thank you for the kind words.

Smaug1

You haul that Rip Racer up stairs or elevator? Or lock it outside and say your prayers?

tds101 

I know my surroundings, so my bike, locked up, would be just fine. People where I live do the same all the time. Locations vary. And I do carry it up and down stairs. It's easier with the battery removed. I'll be installing another backyard shed soon, so it'll reside there, minus the battery. Batteries are always housed indoors.

Smaug1

They just reduced it again, to $999: https://www.juicedbikes.com/products...39818096508992

Something tells me it's going to be discontinued soon and we'll never see another eBike in this genre again. :-(

Like you, I wish I had more room for more bikes; this one does look like fun!

2old

52V @ 750w suggests it can be "opened up" to 28 - 30 mph. Any interest tds?

Smaug1

He's done it already; see Post #27.

2old

Thanks; my thought was to increase the power of the system, but this works.

tds101 

Meh, it's all good. I'm just interested in the larger battery. I heard that they have these sales from time to time. It's a $200 difference, but there's no point in worrying about it now. If it was more, I might be crying in my tea right now.
As mentioned, I unlocked it, and it's fast and FUN! But it kills the battery much quicker, which I'd expected. I did around 23 miles, and I had 2 out of 5 battery bars left on the battery. It's still a substantial range, but I actually ride in speed mode 2 or 3, so I don't need the 28 mph top speed. It's kinda overkill for me. It's nice to have options, but I like cruising between 15 - 20 mph.

I forgot to mention, I'm not sure what the torque rating is on the RipRacer, but it's definitely got some major "OOMF!". Riding in sand that's like sugar sent me FLYING! And riding up any hills (or the little bridge we have that goes to the beach) is effortless. This ride has serious POWER!!!

2old

The "2", which is being discontinued, is $799 now; not a bad deal!

tds101 

Yeah, pretty good deal for a solid ebike. I won't be riding mine for awhile though. That accident I had (with a police car that apparently didn't see me) messed me up pretty good. Fractured left elbow, fractured right wrist. I'm out of commission for the next few months.

KPREN

Sorry to hear about your accident. My guess is you were borderline on frying the motor with a single speed with the power and what you were doing. I would suggest you go over to Grinn Technologies and run some simulations to see where the temperature ends up. Juiced may be replacing a lot of motors on warranty.
The 750 watt motor is no doubt rated at 48 volts. You are probably capable of 812 after unlocking.

From your mileage description I would guess you were using pretty close to 25 watt hours per mile Lot o heat.

tds101 

Um, completely wrong. I wasn't riding my RipRacer, I was riding my Fiido L3. I was doing under 20 mph, and I was going through an intersection when a police car turned directly in front of me. I had two choices. Either I keep going, hit the HUGE SUV and wind up under the rear wheels, OR I hit all my brakes and see what happens. I chose the latter, and ended up OTB. The police officer admitted he didn't see me, and the rest is up to the lawyer and insurance company.

Let me reiterate: MY RIPRACER WASN'T INVOLVED, and there's nothing wrong with it. That includes my motor. The Fiido L3,... it's DOA.

PS - the RipRacer system is 52 volts, and the motor is 750 watts. I've never maxed it out, so I have no issues with it.

cat0020

Is the battery still intact on the Fiido L3?

KPREN

My comment was not about your Ripracer being involved in you accident. I was saddened by you accident. My comment was about your bike being prone to motor overheating and just letting you know that may be the case. Riding in loose sand single speed with fat 20" tires and a geared hub motor is near the perfect scenario for frying a motor. If your motor is thermally protected and will shut down it it gets to hot you are good to go. If not watch out. The inside of the motor can fry even when you can still touch the outside of the motor with a bare hand. All that is required is that the internal temperature melts the windings shellac.
Battery draw watts and motor output watts are not the same. Battery draw watts = motor output watts plus watts producing heat. Not to many e bikes read out battery draw and I have never seen one read out motor output. At high loading and low motor speed, you can overheat an e bike motor in as little as four or five minutes
Again, this was just a word of caution. You are free to reject everything I have just said and it will not hurt my feelings because I have no skin in your game. .

tds101 

Yes, it is. It's the handlepost and body of the bike I'm concerned about. The handlepost is cracked at the hinge/locking point. Totally replaceable. I just can't lift it yet to assess the damage to the body of the bike. I'll give an update on it later.
You actually said"

Like I said, it had nothing to do with my RipRacer, but you assumed it was. I appreciate the concern and thank you for the information. I'm currently having no motor issues as of yet, but I'll keep an eye on it when I can ride again. I am having the annoying spoke breakage issue though, so they'll eventually need to send me a replacement rear wheel/motor, but it's unrelated to the motor overheating. I also have an extended warranty on this baby, so I'm covered. Hopefully they're not too difficult when it comes to warranty issues.