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Old 02-14-14, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Quinn8it
Are you sure that Peanuts were included in the allowed nuts?

peanuts are actually a member of the legume family..

They are often avoided for their high carb content and "anti nutrient" properties... (Quoted pretty much straight from the Paleo bible)
Eh. It depends on which keto website you read.

They are out now. So, we'll see. Seems to be working.
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keto and paleo not same
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Originally Posted by Quinn8it
keto and paleo not same
I'm not on Paleo.
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The other reason for cutting back on nuts is that they help kidney stones grow. If you have ever been through that ordeal nuts are a lot less attractive.
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Originally Posted by Quinn8it
Are you sure that Peanuts were included in the allowed nuts?

peanuts are actually a member of the legume family..

They are often avoided for their high carb content and "anti nutrient" properties... (Quoted pretty much straight from the Paleo bible)
no, i'm not sure... i'm trying to find the really good write-up of the initial study, and i can't.
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Originally Posted by queerpunk
no, i'm not sure... i'm trying to find the really good write-up of the initial study, and i can't.
Im not really familiar with the Med-Diet..

But it looks like they don't avoid Legumes..
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Here's a good write-up of the study's first publication:
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/he...pagewanted=all
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Originally Posted by queerpunk
Here's a good write-up of the study's first publication:
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/he...pagewanted=all
Top comment on that article nails it:
"How many more studies will it take before the American dietary establishment concedes that the low-fat, carbohydrate-rich diet it has been pushing for the last 40 years is a tragic mistake? There is nothing magically protective about olive oil, fish and nuts. What improves heart attack risk is probably simply the replacement of some starches and grains with some fats and proteins. Cut the carbs and death rates go down."
Thank you so much wheat, corn, and sugar subsidies.
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That's pretty accurate. One of the reasons that there's so much contradictory dietary science is because there are often studies of this diet or that diet, but one of the more effective things for health gains, weight loss, and risk reduction is simply following a diet - intentional rather than inertial eating.

The problem is that the American dietary establishment isn't an entity, it's a bunch of corporations looking to profit and insisting that they're just meeting (not affecting) the market's demands.

but we digress.
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raced an omnium in the B's - scratch, points, and win n out.

i can't believe how fast people are in february or maybe i'm just that slow hah.


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I can't call it training, but I got on my bike today. It's been hard to get out with all the snow and ice outside. I finished the bike a couple of days ago. I couldn't wait any more, so I took it for a test ride this evening, in the snow. Now I feel as if I've done push-ups, so that's good.
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Woohoo, I finally rode my track bike for real yesterday! It was a blast. With its small hills, Central Park could be a good training ground.

I rode home on the path along the river. It was utterly covered in ice. I was slipping all over the place, in the dark. I'm proud of how well I handled the bike. I fell twice, but in slow motion and didn't get hurt. I've taught many people to ride, and one technique I use is to practice falling on the grass, sideways. Thank god I did that, because it came in handy for me. It's going to help keep fears at bay if I fall a lot during training.

After a a mile on the ice, I gave up and went back to the street. A 30 minute ride home took 60 minutes, but it was exhilarating. I never had such a light bike before.

I also started doing push-ups. Gotta start chin ups, too. I don't have a chinning bar, but there is a lot of scaffolding in the neighborhood I can use.
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^ Awesome . I'm not sure i'd head out into the ice, but we don't any of that here, so maybe if I had been trapped inside for months, I would change my mind on that. I'm sure you'll enjoy the bike even more when you can get up some speed

Our velodrome has been re-opened after last week's accident, and I can't wait to get out there this evening for a good hard training session! Last week was pretty much a write-off after all the chaos, and then weekend had temperatures up to 40 deg C.. Did a 30 min crit in ~38 degC (104 F, according to my converter), and thought i was going die after 5 minutes. It may have been a short session, but it certainly was my highest average HR probably ever!
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Sunday last was my track accreditation at Manchester Velodrome, got to ride my new Dolan Forza in anger and it was a flying machine! I can now go to all the structured quality training (SQT) sessions, some of which are attended by the top elites

Had my testing today- body composition / sub max VO2 / Ramp VO2 max etc.

It was hell and showed me EXACTLY what I need to work on.

Big result from last time was that I'd lost 10kg fat but put on 5kg muscle Still a long way to go.

Feeling very motivated.
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Took myself out while trying to go too nuts on a standing start. LOL FML... I hate standing starts.
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Took myself out while trying to go too nuts on a standing start. LOL FML... I hate standing starts.
If only someone was filming...
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If only someone was filming...
Hahaha, it was pretty bad. I ended up bruising my rib/hip cracking my helmet. Good god, it was such a low speed effing crash.

I'm trying to talk my coach into just having me do flying 200's and match sprints. Nevermind this standing start shenanigans.
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Hahaha, it was pretty bad. I ended up bruising my rib/hip cracking my helmet. Good god, it was such a low speed effing crash.

I'm trying to talk my coach into just having me do flying 200's and match sprints. Nevermind this standing start shenanigans.
No!
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Hahaha, it was pretty bad. I ended up bruising my rib/hip cracking my helmet. Good god, it was such a low speed effing crash.

I'm trying to talk my coach into just having me do flying 200's and match sprints. Nevermind this standing start shenanigans.
Oof! I thought you just meant a comedy fall! Glad you're not too bad.
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Training status: I've been focused since October on weight loss. I'm almost to my goal of 195 from 223 to now 197... did this by following a paleo diet and (gasp!) crossfitting. I can't believe I'm not injured.

The crossfitting phase is pretty much over and for the past month started focusing more on lifting twice per week, focusing mainly on back squats, front squats and dead lifts. I'm now doing that 3x week. Hoping muscle memory will come back once I get on the bike more, but my squats and DL's are stronger than ever.

In Colorado, to be honest, I have not YET been motivated enough to ride the trainer in my garage. I did that a lot in the past and just need to find a way to enjoy it better, but it's warming up and now am starting to follow a training program that gets me out on the bike a couple times per week.

Plans moving forward is to start each AM with some leg speed work on the rollers, lift MWF, on the bike Tues/Thurs/Sat. And if we get bad weather on a bike day I will (gasp!) hit up some crossfit. As soon as the new track opens in Erie, I'll be hitting that up on Tuesdays and Sat's.

Experience in this forum has me bracing for sharp criticism. But anyway, I have a baby and I stay at home all day and can't get on the bike until either the wife comes home or the occasional babysit by my mom.

I'm almost 20lbs lighter from the last time I was racing on the track. I'm hoping that will translate to being faster. And hopefully improved leg speed on the rollers will translate to better handling on the track as well.

As for the garage training, troubleshooting a bit out loud here, if you have suggestions I'm all ears. I hate that it's just kind of dark in there. I don't like the garage door open because I don't like passers-by seeing me ride in my garage. It's distracting. And there's nothing fun to look at. What do you do to create a better environment when you're on your trainer?

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What do you do to create a better environment when you're on your trainer?
Netflix.
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Netflix.
1+

Or sports. I can't do normal TV shows because of the high commercial density. 10 minutes of commercials per 20 minutes of show is too much.
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Netflix.
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[QUOTE=As for the garage training, troubleshooting a bit out loud here, if you have suggestions I'm all ears. I hate that it's just kind of dark in there. I don't like the garage door open because I don't like passers-by seeing me ride in my garage. It's distracting. And there's nothing fun to look at. What do you do to create a better environment when you're on your trainer?[/QUOTE]

I just keep it short and focussed. Warm up, efforts, cool down, done. Like a track work out. I'm never doing it for more than an hour. Some times I break it up by doing warm-up/cool-down on the rollers, efforts on the erg. Can't get these people I hear about doing it for 2-3 hours at a time.
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I just keep it short and focussed. Warm up, efforts, cool down, done. Like a track work out. I'm never doing it for more than an hour. Some times I break it up by doing warm-up/cool-down on the rollers, efforts on the erg. Can't get these people I hear about doing it for 2-3 hours at a time.
Yeh- that's just crazy...

there is no way that actually makes anyone faster
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