Ciocc Identification
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Ciocc Identification
I have a bike here a coworker handed me. I don’t know Ciocc very well so hoping someone can help me.
No Columbus identification sticker.
No stamp on either drop outs.
Campagnolo Victory drive train.
Modolo Calipers & Levers.
Cinelli Seat
Cinelli Stem & Handlebar
Campagnolo Wheelset
Campagnolo Victory Seat Post
I assume this is sort of a bottom of the barrel model?
Thank you.
No Columbus identification sticker.
No stamp on either drop outs.
Campagnolo Victory drive train.
Modolo Calipers & Levers.
Cinelli Seat
Cinelli Stem & Handlebar
Campagnolo Wheelset
Campagnolo Victory Seat Post
I assume this is sort of a bottom of the barrel model?
Thank you.
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Hmmm...at first I expected to see one of the commonplace Aelle frames/complete bikes sold by TSD...but then this BB shell threw me.
That 'strap' brazed across the two-oval-slots BB shell is something more often seen on Pinarellos (not like this frame is a Pino) but never seen it before on any legit Ciocc.
What size seat post?
And can you take a clear close-up of the (no-name) DOs?
That 'strap' brazed across the two-oval-slots BB shell is something more often seen on Pinarellos (not like this frame is a Pino) but never seen it before on any legit Ciocc.
What size seat post?
And can you take a clear close-up of the (no-name) DOs?
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Shares a few similarities with this one: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ano-600-a.html
Not that a model name was put forward.
Not that a model name was put forward.
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Your co-worker is very kind.
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WOW, love the paint job! Can't help much with answers though but I am a sucker for a red, white, and blue bike.
If that was a 55/56 cm bike I'd be trying to talk you out of it.
I do remember seeing something about the format of the CIOCC details at least helping to date them. Mine had the multi-color "C" for the first letter which is something they did in the early 90s. I just went and read back through my old post on the CIOCC but didn't see anything really useful.
I had a Victory groupset like that on my mid 80's Colnago so maybe keep looking into mid 80' s CIOCC to see if you can find a match?
On the Victory parts, mine worked like crap at first. Then I took them all off, disassembled everything I could, degreased, cleaned, relubed, etc., and then reinstalled using modern cables and housings. Made a 100% difference in shifting quality and easily rivaled by all time fav Superbe setup for friction shifting performance.
You struck gold there in my book.
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A couple of catalogs I had the links too. They seem to be the same as the one one's on Bulgier.net.
https://labibleduvelocataloguesciocc...iocc-1977.html
CATALOGUES CIOCC: CIOCC 198X
https://labibleduvelocataloguesciocc...iocc-1977.html
CATALOGUES CIOCC: CIOCC 198X
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The Campy parts look like Triomphe rather than Victory to me. The Victory crank spider arms were a straight taper out to the chainrings, where as the Triomphe arms tapered in then back out as they approached the chainrings. The Victory shifters had parallel sides to the lever - Triomphe had a slight taper. Those do look like Victory pedals, slightly narrower and the cleat plate is a separate piece riveted to the pedal body, compared to Triomphe's wider, one piece integrated pedal body and cleat plate. Derailleur's were slightly different but hard to see in your picture. Victory (rd) had slightly shorter aluminum cage and Triomphe had a steel cage. Victory had an adjustable plastic B-stop piece and Triomphe was non-adjustable. The finish was anodized on the Victory, polished on Triomphe.
Looks like a nice bike!
Looks like a nice bike!
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Shares a few similarities with this one: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ano-600-a.html
Not that a model name was put forward.
Not that a model name was put forward.
However I think T-Mar and others who point out the style the OP shows might have been specific to the Jon Boyer importing era could be that these were contract-bulit by another supplier (other than the Bonati-Conti factory that shipped to Ten Speed Drive in the US).
Very hard to nail it all down except the seat post might determine if it's Aelle or Cromor, at least.
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