Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Winter Cycling
Reload this Page >

Winter, you embrace 100%?

Search
Notices
Winter Cycling Don't let snow and ice discourage you this winter. The key element to year-round cycling is proper attire! Check out this winter cycling forum to chat with other ice bike fanatics.

Winter, you embrace 100%?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-08-23, 02:13 PM
  #1  
Bikewolf
Full Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 476
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 139 Post(s)
Liked 34 Times in 24 Posts
Winter, you embrace 100%?

I was wondering ... Has winter already started for you? And, are you excited about winter commuting or (recreational) training again? Is it a 100% yes, or is it a "yes but"?


Autumn here still but soon.
I cycle all year round and I love winter, even though it is more challenging. (But has its unique moments of cycling happiness!) So a "yes" for me. But ...

There is always a moment when fear overtakes me (but fortunately fades away just as quickly), in particular early in the winter season. E.g. the first weather report that predicts slippery icy conditions while in reality things turn out to be manageable. Until very soon my winter reflexes return and self-confidence grows stronger.

Every winter is different; you really cannot predict it at all. (Beware it's tail!) So I dare not make a prediction for this year. Usually winter is not too harsh where I live. But in recent years there have been surprises. Sometimes more rain, more strong gusts. And I know for sure there will come a year when I'll have to search for a snow shovel.
Continous grey days of no sun are one of the worst. That, icy days, and maybe those days when you are feeling sick.
A cold winter day with sunshine, blue sky and the perfect layer of snow is what I dream of.

And, let us not forget: every day you cycle counts for double points :-)

How are you feeling for the coming winter?
Bikewolf is offline  
Likes For Bikewolf:
Old 11-08-23, 03:26 PM
  #2  
Thulsadoom
Senior Member
 
Thulsadoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Cape Vincent, NY
Posts: 1,392

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac Expert, 2002 TREK 520, Schwinn Mesa WINTER BIKE, Huffy Rock Creek 29er, 1970s-era Ross ten speed. All my bikes are highly modified(except the Tarmac) yet functional, and generally look beat to ****. .

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 68 Post(s)
Liked 88 Times in 51 Posts
I tuned up my winter bike and rode it twice this week. Sorted my winter clothes. Bring it on.
Thulsadoom is offline  
Likes For Thulsadoom:
Old 11-09-23, 05:49 AM
  #3  
1989Pre 
Standard Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Brunswick, Maine
Posts: 4,272

Bikes: 1948 P. Barnard & Son, 1962 Rudge Sports, 1963 Freddie Grubb Routier, 1980 Manufrance Hirondelle, 1983 F. Moser Sprint, 1989 Raleigh Technium Pre, 2001 Raleigh M80

Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1297 Post(s)
Liked 940 Times in 490 Posts
I convert my MTB from road/tour to winter duty every fall. Mine is all squared-away, with knobbies, gel saddle, suspension fork, etc. The only scenario that bugs me in winter is when there has been a thaw and then a freeze, with ice patches everywhere. As soon as we get at least a half-inch of snow to cover that up, I'm fine, but what gets me is when there is a spell of more than four days of cold with exposed ice. It is then that I turn to running ( seems less dangerous). Otherwise, I would tear my hair out stuck indoors.
__________________
Unless you climb the rungs strategically, you’re not going to build the muscle you need to stay at the top.
1989Pre is offline  
Old 11-09-23, 07:20 AM
  #4  
RB1-luvr
I don't know.
 
RB1-luvr's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: South Meriden, CT
Posts: 2,015

Bikes: '90 B'stone RB-1, '92 B'stone RB-2, '89 SuperGo Access Comp, '03 Access 69er, '23 Trek 520, '14 Ritchey Road Logic, '09 Kestrel Evoke, '08 Windsor Tourist, '17 Surly Wednesday, '89 Centurion Accordo, '15 CruX, '17 Ridley X-Night, '89 Marinoni

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 317 Post(s)
Liked 853 Times in 446 Posts
I don't ride in snow, but I'll ride down to the lower 20s F if the roads are dry.
RB1-luvr is offline  
Likes For RB1-luvr:
Old 11-09-23, 02:39 PM
  #5  
Bob Ross
your god hates me
 
Bob Ross's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,592

Bikes: 2016 Richard Sachs, 2010 Carl Strong, 2006 Cannondale Synapse

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1254 Post(s)
Liked 1,287 Times in 710 Posts
I've been cycling year round in the northeast (NYC area) for 17 years, and always looked forward to the change of seasons along with the necessary change of cycling kit. I am 100% all-in when it comes to winter cycling; I fully subscribe to the theory that There Is No Bad Weather, Only Inappropriate Apparel and so I have drawers full of all sorts of cycling kit to allow me to comfortably ride from single digits to triple digits.

But this is the first year that I will have spent most of the winter cycling in the high desert of southern Arizona, and I'm just now starting to notice how that's thrown all my previous winter cycling experience into a tizzy:

- First of all, all my go-to What To Wear Based On Temperature Range that I've codified after 17 years in the northeast goes out the window here. 40°F and overcast in the New York suburbs (sea level, >60% humidity) is a completely different sensation than 40°F and overcast in the Tucson suburbs (2,500' elevation, <10% humidity), and so I now need to re-think what I'm going to wear for any given set of circumstances.

And,

- It may be 40°F and overcast at 7:00AM when the ride starts, but there's a good chance that by 10:00AM it will be 70°F and sunny...and it is a serious PIA to try to stuff all the layers that I started out my ride wearing into the pockets of whatever layer remains on in the last half of the ride! No wonder so many cyclists around here have huge handlebar bags or wear backpacks!
Bob Ross is offline  
Old 11-10-23, 11:27 AM
  #6  
MNBikeCommuter
Senior Member
 
MNBikeCommuter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 857

Bikes: Cannondale '92 T600 '95 H600 '01 RT1000

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 92 Post(s)
Liked 109 Times in 82 Posts
I embrace winter in that I bike year around, as I can't do indoor biking. I do appreciate the change in scenery, and shorter rides. Sometimes I feel like I'm on the bike too many miles during the other 5-6 months of the year (Minnesota humor).

I do tire of the added logistics with clothing, and checking out routes, and anxiety about mechanical issues out on the road. I run Schwalbe Winter Marathons and have had a couple of flats from studs wearing through the casing into the tubes. The two different tire liners I tried work for preventing that. But, they don't like the cold and the edges chafe the tubes, causing flats themselves. So I run without liners, and get paranoid about those studs, even though I do check the tires periodically.

My limit is an hour out at -5F. I've tried colder, but, well, it just wasn't fun enough without yet another splurge on equipment which will in reality see little use. We don't have THAT many really cold days around here, and a forced break isn't always bad.
MNBikeCommuter is offline  
Old 11-13-23, 09:34 AM
  #7  
rumrunn6
Senior Member
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 29,552

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint, GT Timberline 29r, Marin Muirwoods 29er, Trek FX Alpha 7.0

Mentioned: 112 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5224 Post(s)
Liked 3,585 Times in 2,344 Posts
got out this weekend. grabbed some stuff, didn't need all the stuff. it's coming

however, the Eddie Bauer lined tech pants were perfect. wondering if I should get a 2nd pair Eddie Bauer Men's Rainier Lined Pants
rumrunn6 is offline  
Old 11-13-23, 09:51 AM
  #8  
_ForceD_
Sr Member on Sr bikes
 
_ForceD_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Rhode Island (sometimes in SE Florida)
Posts: 2,326

Bikes: Several...from old junk to new all-carbon.

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1019 Post(s)
Liked 785 Times in 414 Posts
I live in coastal southern New England so it’s either ride in the winter, or don’t ride. (I can’t really bear indoor, stationary activity much.) So, I look at it as kind of an “embrace the suck” situation. “A necessary evil.” “What doesn’t kill me only makes me stronger.” I’m strictly a road cyclist, and over the decades I’ve finally compiled an ensemble of gear/clothing that allows me to do long-ish rides in temps sometimes even down into the teens, and even single digits. That is…as long as the roads are clear. I have to say, one of the coolest times to be riding is when the snow just begins falling, but hasn’t accumulated on the road yet.

Dan
_ForceD_ is offline  
Likes For _ForceD_:
Old 11-13-23, 12:17 PM
  #9  
scottfsmith
I like bike
 
scottfsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Merry Land USA
Posts: 662

Bikes: Roubaix Comp 2020

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 267 Post(s)
Liked 283 Times in 191 Posts
This morning was my first below freezing ride this fall. It was sunny, the air was crisp, I was dressed just right, it was awesome!

Yes it can also be horrible at times but there are some really special winter cycling days and in some ways I look forward to it.
scottfsmith is offline  
Likes For scottfsmith:
Old 11-13-23, 01:19 PM
  #10  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Posts: 40,504

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 511 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7350 Post(s)
Liked 2,475 Times in 1,438 Posts
I'm not enthusiastic about cycling in the winter. I do it a bit, but it sure isn't my favorite. Mind you, I ride in conditions that make some people think I'm crazy, but I'm not the toughest. Low temperatures are sometimes OK for me as long as the ground isn't slippery. I'm afraid of falling in traffic and then being hit by a big vehicle.
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is offline  
Likes For noglider:
Old 11-16-23, 03:58 PM
  #11  
frdfandc
Junior Member
 
frdfandc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Cecil County, Maryland
Posts: 154

Bikes: 2013 Jamis Dragon Race

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 58 Post(s)
Liked 37 Times in 30 Posts
I mix MTB and road for most of the year. During the colder months, it's mostly mountain biking and some indoor training if I can't go for a ride on the MTB.
frdfandc is offline  
Old 11-18-23, 05:20 AM
  #12  
wolfchild
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mississauga/Toronto, Ontario canada
Posts: 8,721

Bikes: I have 3 singlespeed/fixed gear bikes

Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4227 Post(s)
Liked 2,488 Times in 1,286 Posts
100% ready and looking forward to another winter season. Bring it on !
wolfchild is offline  
Old 11-18-23, 10:03 PM
  #13  
MinnMan
Senior Member
 
MinnMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 5,752

Bikes: 2022 Salsa Beargrease Carbon Deore 11, 2020 Salsa Warbird GRX 600, 2020 Canyon Ultimate CF SLX disc 9.0 Di2, 2020 Catrike Eola, 2016 Masi cxgr, 2011, Felt F3 Ltd, 2010 Trek 2.1, 2009 KHS Flite 220

Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4393 Post(s)
Liked 3,016 Times in 1,865 Posts
Originally Posted by MNBikeCommuter
I embrace winter in that I bike year around, as I can't do indoor biking. I do appreciate the change in scenery, and shorter rides. Sometimes I feel like I'm on the bike too many miles during the other 5-6 months of the year (Minnesota humor).

I do tire of the added logistics with clothing, and checking out routes, and anxiety about mechanical issues out on the road. I run Schwalbe Winter Marathons and have had a couple of flats from studs wearing through the casing into the tubes. The two different tire liners I tried work for preventing that. But, they don't like the cold and the edges chafe the tubes, causing flats themselves. So I run without liners, and get paranoid about those studs, even though I do check the tires periodically.

My limit is an hour out at -5F. I've tried colder, but, well, it just wasn't fun enough without yet another splurge on equipment which will in reality see little use. We don't have THAT many really cold days around here, and a forced break isn't always bad.
Yeah, that's about my limit also. I've done colder. Probably down to -10 or so.

Good bar mitts and chemical foot warmers are key down at those temperatures, but my real limitation is face covering. Ski goggles are a must down at those temperatures, and issues with glasses/fogging can be a real bummer.
MinnMan is offline  
Old 11-18-23, 10:44 PM
  #14  
Sierra_rider
Senior Member
 
Sierra_rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2023
Location: NorCal
Posts: 506

Bikes: Santa Cruz Blur 4 TR, Canyon Endurace cf sl, Canyon Ultimate cf slx, Canyon Strive enduro, Canyon Grizl sl8

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 219 Post(s)
Liked 848 Times in 342 Posts
Not quite winter here yet, just the start of the rainy season...I don't really consider it winter here until the snow falls.

I'm currently acclimating to the colder temps. It hasn't been super cold yet(only 40's,) but the elevation/terrain. makes the temperature kinda tricky to deal with. Almost all of my local rides are above the golden climbing ratio of 100'/mile, so I'm either hot on the ascents or cold on the downhills. Of course I can shed/add layers, but that entails bringing a bunch of extra clothing. To make it worse, my house is basically the high point on many of the rides...so I descend nearly 4000' downhill in the chilly mornings and then climb back up in the afternoons. I just deal with it and recognize that a certain amount of discomfort is just part of the experience.
Sierra_rider is online now  
Old 11-19-23, 07:39 PM
  #15  
Alan K
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 823
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 472 Post(s)
Liked 333 Times in 259 Posts
So far our winter has been mild, today’s high was about 50F - very pleasant for bicycling .
We had very little snow and only a couple of times thus far.
I’m still using my road bikes at least on alternate days or more often. My winter bike (an old mountain bike) with 26” soft tires with tungsten carbide spikes, is ready to go!

Usually 10F below zero has been my limit for bicycling but this year, I have a feeling that I might cut that to a little higher temp. We shall see…
Alan K is offline  
Old 11-22-23, 09:09 PM
  #16  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Posts: 40,504

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 511 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7350 Post(s)
Liked 2,475 Times in 1,438 Posts
Negative 5 Fahrenheit, oh my goodness, I can't imagine.
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is offline  
Old 11-25-23, 06:41 AM
  #17  
datlas 
Should Be More Popular
 
datlas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Posts: 43,056

Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix

Mentioned: 560 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22600 Post(s)
Liked 8,928 Times in 4,160 Posts
Yes but….in my case the but is if there is chance of icy roads, then no.

Sadly, where I live this happens often in winter, once there is snow, daytime runoff from driveways etc get roads wet which then freezes. These small patches of ice are dangerous and that will prevent me from riding, not the actual temps which never get colder than about 10F which is ok if you are dressed for it.
__________________
Originally Posted by rjones28
Addiction is all about class.
datlas is offline  
Old 11-25-23, 08:58 AM
  #18  
robobike316 
Junior Member
 
robobike316's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: Appleton, WI
Posts: 143
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 51 Post(s)
Liked 126 Times in 61 Posts
I'll ride if the roads are clear and it's in the 40's. I prefer to cross country ski in the winter and don't mind taking the time off the bike. For me that makes spring something to look forward to. I'm in Wisconsin so the winters can be pretty severe.
robobike316 is online now  
Old 11-25-23, 09:18 AM
  #19  
rumrunn6
Senior Member
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 29,552

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint, GT Timberline 29r, Marin Muirwoods 29er, Trek FX Alpha 7.0

Mentioned: 112 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5224 Post(s)
Liked 3,585 Times in 2,344 Posts
mid 20s this morning. better embrace something!
rumrunn6 is offline  
Old 11-25-23, 11:37 AM
  #20  
Steve B.
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: South shore, L.I., NY
Posts: 6,885

Bikes: Flyxii FR322, Cannondale Topstone, Miyata City Liner, Specialized Chisel, Specialized Epic Evo

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3242 Post(s)
Liked 2,087 Times in 1,182 Posts
Coastal NYC area, we transition to mt. biking mid Oct or so, 35 is my low for road riding, though I often wimp out though I have clothing to 35. I can handle to 20 or so on a mt. bike. Mt. biking is more pleasant as there's no wind, you don't roll as fast and if we don't get snow as last year, we can often ride thru to Feb or March. I got a lot of mt. biking in last year.
Steve B. is online now  
Old 11-25-23, 05:53 PM
  #21  
Alan K
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 823
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 472 Post(s)
Liked 333 Times in 259 Posts
Winter commuting

Originally Posted by noglider
Negative 5 Fahrenheit, oh my goodness, I can't imagine.
One does need appropriate layers to keep warm, thin gloves and mittens over gloves, face covering to pre-warm the air you breathe, skiing googles, a helmet with insulation and ear covers etc. After all these steps, bicycling in cold/snow is exhilarating.



Last edited by Alan K; 11-26-23 at 12:35 AM. Reason: Spolling
Alan K is offline  
Likes For Alan K:
Old 11-28-23, 12:59 PM
  #22  
rumrunn6
Senior Member
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 29,552

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint, GT Timberline 29r, Marin Muirwoods 29er, Trek FX Alpha 7.0

Mentioned: 112 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5224 Post(s)
Liked 3,585 Times in 2,344 Posts
picked up a cpl of my winter must-haves ...
rumrunn6 is offline  
Old 11-28-23, 03:46 PM
  #23  
Alan K
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 823
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 472 Post(s)
Liked 333 Times in 259 Posts
Originally Posted by rumrunn6
picked up a cpl of my winter must-haves ...
Yes, better living through chemistry is an alternative.

My children used them while skiing but I have managed without them.
Layers and wind-blocking has worked well enough for my bicycling. There have been a few instances when rear shifting was a little stiff. A simple solution to that for me was to put the mountain bike in a mid gear where I could manage through most of the ride and to climb a hill, I would shift the chain to smaller ring in the front. The front gear shifting has never failed yet.
Alan K is offline  
Likes For Alan K:
Old 11-28-23, 07:00 PM
  #24  
rumrunn6
Senior Member
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 29,552

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint, GT Timberline 29r, Marin Muirwoods 29er, Trek FX Alpha 7.0

Mentioned: 112 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5224 Post(s)
Liked 3,585 Times in 2,344 Posts
Originally Posted by Alan K
Yes, better living through chemistry is an alternative.

My children used them while skiing but I have managed without them.
Layers and wind-blocking has worked well enough for my bicycling. There have been a few instances when rear shifting was a little stiff. A simple solution to that for me was to put the mountain bike in a mid gear where I could manage through most of the ride and to climb a hill, I would shift the chain to smaller ring in the front. The front gear shifting has never failed yet.
yeah, I only use them for my feet. even the hand warmers. they are for my feet. I swear they can be just dead appendages sometimes. I've got my hands figured out just fine w/ other garments like you said, gloves & even barmitts. but those feet, after an hour in the very cold & they're done. most winter rides aren't much longer than an hour or two. so the warmers give me just enough boost that makes it a non issue. did an hour and a half at 25 degrees recently (w/o the warmers) & that was my limit. the feet started to complain. hands were happy as clams

Last edited by rumrunn6; 12-09-23 at 10:33 AM.
rumrunn6 is offline  
Likes For rumrunn6:
Old 11-28-23, 07:38 PM
  #25  
Alan K
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 823
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 472 Post(s)
Liked 333 Times in 259 Posts
Originally Posted by rumrunn6
yeah, I only use them for my feet. even the hand warmers. they are for my feet. I swear they can be just dead appendages sometimes. I've got my hands figured out just fine w/ other garments like you said, gloves & even barmitts. but those feet, after an hour in the very cold & they're done. most winter rides aren't much longer than an hour or two. so the warmers give me just enough boost that makes it a non issue. did an hour and a half at 25 degrees recently & that was my limit. the feet started to complain. hands were happy as clams
During very cold weather, I do not bicycle more than 2 hrs. I have learned that you must have an outer layer that prevents air from stealing your body heat otherwise it becomes a losing battle. Once the temp dips below zero, I have a pair of almost knee heigh compression socks (fully cover calf muscles), a layer of thin wool blend socks, and finally a thicker wool or one of the newer blended materials that does not trap moisture, should you get a little warm. I also use wind proof shoe covers that seal the shoes completely by a zipper and a chord at the top that goes up to ankle. The last layer has proved quite beneficial at and below zero F. Should the temp rise and I feel a little warmer, I can always unzip the shoe cover partially to ensure that moisture doesn’t condense. Without all these layers, my feet do get cold and I don’t like the idea of riding too long when my feet or fingers are beginning to approach numbness, even if I can push for a while longer.
Decades ago, when I experienced my toes going numb the first time, I found a coffee shop to get warmed up - a hot cup of coffee and a warm brioche never tasted so good. After that a number of well thought purchases were made to survive the winters.

Good luck, and keep warm!
Alan K is offline  
Likes For Alan K:


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.