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Went for a decent overnight tramp (hike). 25km one way with under 1,000m of vertical gain. that was stupid to do in summer. On the walk in I drank nearly 5l of water (well 1.25L was electrolytes). Even eating salted nuts as a snack I was still dehydrated and knackered when I got to the hut. I drank another half litre of Rooibos while eating dinner and had more water before crawling into my bunk. After a poor night's sleep, the next day was walk out the same way. thankfully it was slightly cooler. I still drank the same amount but added the electrolyte powder twice instead of once to my water bottle. I didn't feel as dehydrated but did feel just as knackered.
Today the only walking I'm doing is a little around the house and some grocery shopping. And I'll still be drinking lots.
I should have gone cycling instead.
Today the only walking I'm doing is a little around the house and some grocery shopping. And I'll still be drinking lots.
I should have gone cycling instead.
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Mask 8 hours wrenching and helping customers at the bike shop all summer long. NBD.
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30 km on the mtb, about half of it on pavement because I am as yet unfamiliar with the area in which I was riding. There's a whole nother world out there in off road land.
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I'm absolutely certain that I would crack on erg mode if I had to reproduce the segment averages from my last AdZ climb. Speaking only for myself, I really think that there's a mental aspect - changing cadence in erg does exactly the opposite of what I'm conditioned to expect, and I think that that distracts and frustrates me enough that, when I'm around threshold, it can eventually cause enough of a misstep to start the death spiral. I think that it's likely that I could ride in erg mode enough to get used to it and not have it be a problem... but I don't really see a benefit for myself, so I'm not going to bother.
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yes, all correct. Plus I did a calibration just before the ride. The thing that bothers me most is the first half of the ride was completely normal. Then like I said, as if a switch was thrown I was off the back...boom! Unless I used the rubber band feature and just pedaled slowly. If I tried to catch up my effort just became overbearing.so I sat 4 seconds back spinning about 100 watts. Until about 5 minutes to go when suddenly I accelerated without any effort and caught the group and actually passed them while putting out 0 effort.
It has something to do with that stupid rubber band I'm sure of it.
It has something to do with that stupid rubber band I'm sure of it.
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I have no doubt that that's the case for you, but mileage varies, though.
I'm absolutely certain that I would crack on erg mode if I had to reproduce the segment averages from my last AdZ climb. Speaking only for myself, I really think that there's a mental aspect - changing cadence in erg does exactly the opposite of what I'm conditioned to expect, and I think that that distracts and frustrates me enough that, when I'm around threshold, it can eventually cause enough of a misstep to start the death spiral. I think that it's likely that I could ride in erg mode enough to get used to it and not have it be a problem... but I don't really see a benefit for myself, so I'm not going to bother.
I'm absolutely certain that I would crack on erg mode if I had to reproduce the segment averages from my last AdZ climb. Speaking only for myself, I really think that there's a mental aspect - changing cadence in erg does exactly the opposite of what I'm conditioned to expect, and I think that that distracts and frustrates me enough that, when I'm around threshold, it can eventually cause enough of a misstep to start the death spiral. I think that it's likely that I could ride in erg mode enough to get used to it and not have it be a problem... but I don't really see a benefit for myself, so I'm not going to bother.
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Funny, for some reason I never considered that approach. I'll add that to the list of options.
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Is the lag the same in TR as it is in ZWift? When I used my laptop and ant dongle it was only about 1.5 seconds with Apple and bt its closer to 3 seconds.
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I suppose that's the other factor with differing experiences - trainers and/or programs can vary in their responsiveness. I don't have any meaningful experience with smart trainers other than my own on Zwift, specifically, but it has always felt a bit heavy-handed when changing resistance, whether in erg or just simulating slope. Maybe erg would be less intrusive for me on TR or Sufferfest/Wahoo whatever, but I'm not going to bother looking in to that this off-season.
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I suppose that's the other factor with differing experiences - trainers and/or programs can vary in their responsiveness. I don't have any meaningful experience with smart trainers other than my own on Zwift, specifically, but it has always felt a bit heavy-handed when changing resistance, whether in erg or just simulating slope. Maybe erg would be less intrusive for me on TR or Sufferfest/Wahoo whatever, but I'm not going to bother looking in to that this off-season.
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One comment on ERG mode that might help is to remember that while in ERG mode, you are working with a dual feedback system. The trainer is targeting a power target and 'you' are targeting a power target. The rates at which both react are different and therefore make getting to the zone "interesting". On long intervals, one can just maintain constant cadence and the trainer will change resistance automatically towards the new power target. Short intervals are a little more difficult, if the time at power is shorter than the time it takes for the trainer itself to get to that power, the interval won't be long enough. ie, the feedback rate is too slow. Therefore it becomes your job to effectively increase power quickly to get the trainer into the proper zone so it can just control power rather than try to ramp it up. This means that you have to have a good feeling about where you need to be as far as gear and cadence to make that power right from the start.
One other thing I have noticed with Zwift is that the power targets displayed are rounded to the nearest 5 watts. For example if your target is actually 243, Zwift will display 245, but I don't know if it is actually targeting 243 or 245. And therefore if 'you' are targeting 245, you may find that the trainer is trying to reduce your power as you creep above 'its' upper target limit.
Maybe I'm the oddball, but I don't find ERG mode that difficult to use. But I also think of that dual feedback system that's constantly at work trying to maintain power, and a higher cadence works better than a lower one.
Also somewhere in my Direto setup there is a setting for how many "wheel revolutions" are used to monitor power and I think mine is set less than the default so the response is a bit quicker.
One other thing I have noticed with Zwift is that the power targets displayed are rounded to the nearest 5 watts. For example if your target is actually 243, Zwift will display 245, but I don't know if it is actually targeting 243 or 245. And therefore if 'you' are targeting 245, you may find that the trainer is trying to reduce your power as you creep above 'its' upper target limit.
Maybe I'm the oddball, but I don't find ERG mode that difficult to use. But I also think of that dual feedback system that's constantly at work trying to maintain power, and a higher cadence works better than a lower one.
Also somewhere in my Direto setup there is a setting for how many "wheel revolutions" are used to monitor power and I think mine is set less than the default so the response is a bit quicker.
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Significant structural issues. Beam going back into house is mostly sound, but compromised by earlier bathroom reno and will have to be reinforced. Note absence of flashing around window frame in lower left. Fortunately, the vertical piece is pressure treated. Downspout drains a huge amount of roof and the water damage is probably due to that bit of totally avoidable bad design.