Will average speed be higher on a stationary bike?
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On Zwift rides on flat, I can regularly do 25 MPH, but IRL doing 25 on the flats with wind resistance is completely another thing. I even hit 55 MPH on one Zwift downhill. IRL very doubtful especially around 90 degree curves.
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Zwift physics are super flattering. Mostly butter smooth roads, no wind, perfect aero, no corner braking. It's especially true if drafting (or even just the busy "conga line" streets of Richmond flat route).
It's a video game, I doubt it would be as popular if it made you slower than real life! 😅
Time spend on the trainer / spin bike should be measured in hours and output. Distance is meaningless (technically, the same could even be argued for outside).
It's a video game, I doubt it would be as popular if it made you slower than real life! 😅
Time spend on the trainer / spin bike should be measured in hours and output. Distance is meaningless (technically, the same could even be argued for outside).
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Of the various bike sim apps, I think RGT is the only one that simulates braking for sharp corners. The rest, like Zwift, just totally ignore cornering speed limitations. It doesn't really matter, but it's pretty easy to implement.
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Exactly. Mileage is not a very good indicator of workload in either the virtual or real worlds. It's just something people tend to log i.e. "Last season I did X miles". It says nothing about the riding terrain or workload. If you use TSS to log your workload, then mileage/speed is irrelevant anyway.
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The effort of pedaling on an indoor trainer/bicycle is just not the same as riding in the outdoors environment. Just so many factors involved. Trying to compare the two speed wise does not work so well. Measuring the intensity and wattage output would likely work better for comparison. I am not a fan of pedaling indoors. When I did it a few winters ago, I was doing intervals to break up the monotony. Also, for me, doing intervals indoor was much easier to keep the time and pace of the intervals where you want them, ergo, better for training.
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When you get right down to it, the only good reason for logging your "miles" in that manner is motivational, you're doing it for yourself. If, for whatever reason, you find it easier to get yourself on the trainer by considering those miles "real", then go for it, and calibrate the miles in whatever manner you're most comfortable with and enthusiastic about.
Like everyone has pretty much pointed out, miles aren't really a good measure of effort in any form. I keep track of my real world miles because I find "I'm going to ride 125 miles today" a lot more motivating than "I'm going to spend 13 minutes in the hoozits zone" or whatever new-fangled metric it is the kids are chasing today.
Like everyone has pretty much pointed out, miles aren't really a good measure of effort in any form. I keep track of my real world miles because I find "I'm going to ride 125 miles today" a lot more motivating than "I'm going to spend 13 minutes in the hoozits zone" or whatever new-fangled metric it is the kids are chasing today.
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The effort to create the pretend miles is not pretend. I use the imaginary miles to reflect the effort. I could use a power meter, heart rate monitor, and timer (all good suggestions above) and I'd get a more scientific metric, but I'm not in training, I'm in exercise. I don't need the precision.
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When you get right down to it, the only good reason for logging your "miles" in that manner is motivational, you're doing it for yourself. If, for whatever reason, you find it easier to get yourself on the trainer by considering those miles "real", then go for it, and calibrate the miles in whatever manner you're most comfortable with and enthusiastic about.
Like everyone has pretty much pointed out, miles aren't really a good measure of effort in any form. I keep track of my real world miles because I find "I'm going to ride 125 miles today" a lot more motivating than "I'm going to spend 13 minutes in the hoozits zone" or whatever new-fangled metric it is the kids are chasing today.
Like everyone has pretty much pointed out, miles aren't really a good measure of effort in any form. I keep track of my real world miles because I find "I'm going to ride 125 miles today" a lot more motivating than "I'm going to spend 13 minutes in the hoozits zone" or whatever new-fangled metric it is the kids are chasing today.
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As you rightly say, the effort required to log pretend trainer miles is very much real!
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Zwift physics are super flattering. Mostly butter smooth roads, no wind, perfect aero, no corner braking. It's especially true if drafting (or even just the busy "conga line" streets of Richmond flat route).
It's a video game, I doubt it would be as popular if it made you slower than real life! 😅
Time spend on the trainer / spin bike should be measured in hours and output. Distance is meaningless (technically, the same could even be argued for outside).
It's a video game, I doubt it would be as popular if it made you slower than real life! 😅
Time spend on the trainer / spin bike should be measured in hours and output. Distance is meaningless (technically, the same could even be argued for outside).
Also, people have argued it to the ground trying to prove otherwise.........but Zwift is super super flattering for aero of what I would deem more average riders. You can infer from that what you want. But, Zwift flatters folks that wouldn't be so aero efficient in real life.
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Lots of bad data out there
Small wheel circumferences are not well represented on the charts and may have larger variances if not calibrated.
there are speed/cadence charts to get a quick check
If all your numbers line up, good. If not it's a project to calibrate.
lots of bad data out there
Get data that is meaningfully comparable for you, unless you like math for sport
there are speed/cadence charts to get a quick check
If all your numbers line up, good. If not it's a project to calibrate.
lots of bad data out there
Get data that is meaningfully comparable for you, unless you like math for sport
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Don’t fool yourself, the average speed of any stationary bike will be zero mph.
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...I'm thinking that as your Zwift speed approaches the velocity of light, there needs to be some compensation for time distortion due to relativity. Otherwise you might end up at your destination younger than when you started out. nttawwt
...I'm thinking that as your Zwift speed approaches the velocity of light, there needs to be some compensation for time distortion due to relativity. Otherwise you might end up at your destination younger than when you started out. nttawwt
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