anybody else get double vision?
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Used to happen to me while I was at work. Working iron. Would just sit on the top flange, close my eyes and take some breaths. Went away on its own. No idea why- but kind of a freaky problem to have in ironwork.
Another vision problem I would get was more attributed to the job itself.
If your reaching for something like a 3/8” rope at the same level as your eyes- and your next visual reference is a skyscraper 200yards away, or a hill 1/4mile away- your distance perception gets wacky. You’re kinda grabbing at the air until what you were grabbing is in your hands- then being in your hands recalibrates your vision depth because your mind knows how far your hands are and how big they are.
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I told optometrist about the weird double vision thing. She said I have an astigmatism... I already knew that- not helpful.
Thats the slight floating ghost worm I see.
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If you get on your bike you will see two doctors at the same time and save a copay.
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All The Time. But I'm an outlier. If you're familiar with glasses Rx:
+4.75 -1.00 015 +2,50 4.5 Out 2.0 Down
+5.50 -1.50 180 +2.50 4.5 Out 1.5 Up
Been something like that since birth. Should have been in glasses much earlier than the 2 y.o. that I was. At least 3 surgeries to try to correct the muscle imbalances.
+4.75 -1.00 015 +2,50 4.5 Out 2.0 Down
+5.50 -1.50 180 +2.50 4.5 Out 1.5 Up
Been something like that since birth. Should have been in glasses much earlier than the 2 y.o. that I was. At least 3 surgeries to try to correct the muscle imbalances.
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I had this happen for a few rides last fall. It turned out that I had been riding into the sunset, with one eye shaded by my helmet. The other pupil went to maximum restriction, and after I turned around, it took over a minute to relax again.
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I've had this problems for years. Tried the surgery and worked for about 9 months. Back to wearing glasses with prism.
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I have had double vision a lot of times with most types of physical exertion. Mostly bike riding, but I do get it at other times. Even when I'm not doing any type of physical work. Went to an eye doctor and he said everything with my eyes is fine, and started saying about the eye muscles can get weak or tired, and that will cause double vision. I had at least 2nd stage lyme disease before it was diagnosed 23 years ago. I was treated with antibiotics for a year and a few times after that, but I feel I never got completely rid of it. So I suspect it is the lyme disease that is causing my double vision issues. I told my eye doctor about the lyme disease, and that I thought it was a possible cause. He left the room for a bit, comes back in and says yes Lyme can cause those kinds of issues. So I figure he went out and read his book. I think most of the time you have to tell a doctor what is wrong with you, because they have no idea, and many times just guess at what your problem is. For instance when I was going from specialist to specialist, and taking test after test trying to find out what was wrong with me not one of the doctors ever suggested lyme disease. It was my own father that asked if I had a test done for it. Anyway I don't know what physical exertion, and bike riding has to do with starting the double vision, but it does.
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Anther excellent one is: "the Bates Method" You can find a teacher or just DuckCuckGo for the book. Probably downloadable somewhere.
I know someone who did the Bates Method and improved their vision dramatically.
BTW one of the eye exercises I do is to look at the tip of my nose then at a distant object like a tree top then back at the nose tip. Probably do that a dozen times.
There's a lot of nonsense about the eyes out there. I went to an eye Doc because I wanted to get prescription sunglasses as the company would pay 80%. He laughed and said my eyes were enviably healthy and he was jealous. He also laughed when I asked him about eye exercises. That was about 20 years ago + I can read the fine print on drug bottles still and use 1.0 glasses occasionally. Normally I don't use anything. Problem is that health pros financial position is typically at cross purposes to yours. They want to sell glasses and you don't want them. In ancient India/China if you were well the physician got paid. When you got sick, he didn't get paid.
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I have had double vision a lot of times with most types of physical exertion. Mostly bike riding, but I do get it at other times. Even when I'm not doing any type of physical work. Went to an eye doctor and he said everything with my eyes is fine, and started saying about the eye muscles can get weak or tired, and that will cause double vision. I had at least 2nd stage lyme disease before it was diagnosed 23 years ago. I was treated with antibiotics for a year and a few times after that, but I feel I never got completely rid of it. So I suspect it is the lyme disease that is causing my double vision issues. I told my eye doctor about the lyme disease, and that I thought it was a possible cause. He left the room for a bit, comes back in and says yes Lyme can cause those kinds of issues. So I figure he went out and read his book. I think most of the time you have to tell a doctor what is wrong with you, because they have no idea, and many times just guess at what your problem is. For instance when I was going from specialist to specialist, and taking test after test trying to find out what was wrong with me not one of the doctors ever suggested lyme disease. It was my own father that asked if I had a test done for it. Anyway I don't know what physical exertion, and bike riding has to do with starting the double vision, but it does.
Check out Anthony Williams. I have found his knowledge to be golden as I cured myself of a number of things.
He has some podcasts that are amazing including one on lyme - June 17 2019. You cannot go wrong listening to any of his podcasts. I have all of his books.
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Hi Alzerbster,
Check out Anthony Williams. I have found his knowledge to be golden as I cured myself of a number of things.
He has some podcasts that are amazing including one on lyme - June 17 2019. You cannot go wrong listening to any of his podcasts. I have all of his books.
Check out Anthony Williams. I have found his knowledge to be golden as I cured myself of a number of things.
He has some podcasts that are amazing including one on lyme - June 17 2019. You cannot go wrong listening to any of his podcasts. I have all of his books.
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I'm an Ophthalmologist. You need to see an Ophthalmologist pronto. Not an optometrist or a family doc. There is a large list of possible causes - some not serious, but some very serious. Good luck
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Thank you, and I understand what you are saying. I've had this condition now for a number of years and it hasn't gotten any worse than when it first appeared. I can go for days or weeks without noticing it, and then it returns. I do believe that I still do have Lyme, and my immune system has learned to for the most part keep it under control. I do experience other symptoms that come and go, and I do believe that this double vision issue is lyme related. I have noticed that eating foods with lots of sugar in them, like cake and ice cream bring symptoms on. There really are not many doctors that know much about lyme disease. I have even had to educate a few of them over the last 20 years on what Lyme can do. My question is, if I do see an Ophthalmologist, will he be able to even diagnose it as lyme if that is what is causing it? Also if it is Lyme would he be able to do anything about it? Right now I would bet a paycheck that after a number of visits and hundreds of dollars later, I would leave, and be told that nothing can be found wrong with my eyes. Nothing at all against you or other Ophthalmologists, its just something I have experienced over the last 23 years of dealing with lyme and seeing different doctors. I have had other issues where I have seen other specialists, a few times being cardiologists, and I am told they see nothing wrong with me. Actually it would be pretty nice to have all the money back, from doctors telling me there is nothing wrong with me. Before I found out I had lyme, thanks to my father. One doctor was ready to do extensive sinus surgery on me, another doctor told me maybe I needed to see a Neurologist, because the thought was I was imagining my symptoms. These kinds of things went on for months before my father suggested I get tested for lyme. This after seeing how many specialists. My father had no college education either, but he had an intuition that many specialists and doctors didn't have.
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I'd go see an eye doctor. If you have just noticed this then by all means get it checked out. I have a slight case of a similar condition when leaning over the bars and looking out the "top" of my eyes, meaning looking down with my head but forward with my eyes, one eye doesn't track with the other and things appear a little wonky. I was born with it and it doesn't really cause me any problems though.
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Thank you, and I understand what you are saying. I've had this condition now for a number of years and it hasn't gotten any worse than when it first appeared. I can go for days or weeks without noticing it, and then it returns. I do believe that I still do have Lyme, and my immune system has learned to for the most part keep it under control. I do experience other symptoms that come and go, and I do believe that this double vision issue is lyme related. I have noticed that eating foods with lots of sugar in them, like cake and ice cream bring symptoms on. There really are not many doctors that know much about lyme disease. I have even had to educate a few of them over the last 20 years on what Lyme can do. My question is, if I do see an Ophthalmologist, will he be able to even diagnose it as lyme if that is what is causing it? Also if it is Lyme would he be able to do anything about it? Right now I would bet a paycheck that after a number of visits and hundreds of dollars later, I would leave, and be told that nothing can be found wrong with my eyes. Nothing at all against you or other Ophthalmologists, its just something I have experienced over the last 23 years of dealing with lyme and seeing different doctors. I have had other issues where I have seen other specialists, a few times being cardiologists, and I am told they see nothing wrong with me. Actually it would be pretty nice to have all the money back, from doctors telling me there is nothing wrong with me. Before I found out I had lyme, thanks to my father. One doctor was ready to do extensive sinus surgery on me, another doctor told me maybe I needed to see a Neurologist, because the thought was I was imagining my symptoms. These kinds of things went on for months before my father suggested I get tested for lyme. This after seeing how many specialists. My father had no college education either, but he had an intuition that many specialists and doctors didn't have.
I’m sorry you are having this problem. The chronic nature of this takes urgency out of the occasion, which might have unmasked serious and potential dangerous issues.
Remember, this is a bike forum with anonymous posters and I am not your doctor :-)
It can be very frustrating to have a disease like Lyme, which can present with multiple unrelated symptoms and delay or prevent a proper diagnosis.
I would suggest, if you want another opinion, to see a Neuro-ophthalmologist, most of whom practice on staff in a department of Ophthalmology at a university medical center.
I wish you good luck in your quest for help with both a diagnosis and treatment.
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I was born with a lazy eye. Eye muscle wasn't in quite the right place. Eye would wander causing double vision at times, especially when tired. Brain compensated by just ignoring the right eye. Had little to no depth perception, sucked at sports.
Had muscle surgery in my mid 40's that completely fixed the issue. Brain re-wired over a couple of months. I can now catch a baseball and watch 3D movies.
May not be your issue but could be something this benign.
Man, recovering from surgery was a trip. Was two weeks before I could walk a straight line, close to a month to feel safe driving again. Truly bizarre.
Had muscle surgery in my mid 40's that completely fixed the issue. Brain re-wired over a couple of months. I can now catch a baseball and watch 3D movies.
May not be your issue but could be something this benign.
Man, recovering from surgery was a trip. Was two weeks before I could walk a straight line, close to a month to feel safe driving again. Truly bizarre.
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That's strange. Could it be that you're not having enough air while cycling, or that your blood pressure drops suddenly (but if the latter would happen, you would feel faint which is not the case, since you didn't mention it?). I'm no doctor nor medical specialist, so I don't know much and I don't know what your condition is exactly. I have double vision but normally, I have a condition called lazy eye (that makes me see double, usually when I get stressed or finish doing something that requires much concentration or when I focus in an object near to my eyes; hence why I have to abandon drawing and reading most of the time). My lazy eye gets really bad that sometimes that I lose reference of which is the true image, that confuses me very much and is very bad, although sometimes turning or lifting my head a little makes it go away, although it's not a solution.
For your case; maybe a doctor or an ophthalmologist can help you? I would say try going to an eye doctor (ophthalmologist) first and see what he says. If you aren't satisfied with his reply, you can go and have a second opinion with a good one.
Just be careful. Take care, wishing you all the best!
For your case; maybe a doctor or an ophthalmologist can help you? I would say try going to an eye doctor (ophthalmologist) first and see what he says. If you aren't satisfied with his reply, you can go and have a second opinion with a good one.
Just be careful. Take care, wishing you all the best!
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Update: Just had eye exam: I passed! Minor tweak to my prescription, but nothing else wrong. No need to come back for two years (unless something happens). FWIW, I was examined by retna specialist last Oct- no pressing problems for now. Also, I've had this issue for years; it is not getting worse.
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if they were to see it be a concern, i'd hoped they'd addressed it with you.
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