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Old 07-15-14, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dalava
He said he was trying to eat an energy bar with only one hand on the bar, and hit a pothole. /story
So he says the bike broke when he hit the pothole?
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Originally Posted by cycledogg
So he says the bike broke when he hit the pothole?
That's the cause of the crash, NOT random carbon asplosion causing the crash as some instigated here. I believe there were some "fog of war" after the crash, and some bikes got damaged.

Disclaimer: I don't ride Specialized, only have their shoes.
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I've worked in Public Relations before...the way Specialized (mis)handled this is a textbook example of how NOT to respond to an incident.
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Originally Posted by cycledogg
So he says the bike broke when he hit the pothole?
Are you serious?
This caused the crash (and busted leg). The bike he was riding at the time was damaged but not destroyed. Roche gave Contador his bike and waited on team car. Contador rode for who knows how long and stopped, which is why you see the McLaren Tarmac laying on the ground next to Conty when the docs are working on him. In the effort to get the team car up to Contador, the secondary bike busted on the rack when the Saxo and Belkin cars came together.

What the hell is so hard to believe about this?
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Originally Posted by cmschmie
Are you serious?
This caused the crash (and busted leg). The bike he was riding at the time was damaged but not destroyed. Roche gave Contador his bike and waited on team car. Contador rode for who knows how long and stopped, which is why you see the McLaren Tarmac laying on the ground next to Conty when the docs are working on him. In the effort to get the team car up to Contador, the bike busted on the rack when the Saxo and Belkin cars came together.

What the hell is so hard to believe about this?
Just call 'em carbon skeptics . . . .
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Originally Posted by bikemig
Just call 'em carbon skeptics . . . .
Yep, some low hanging fruit for the carbophobes trying to make the same repetitive incorrect 'carbon is dangerous' argument.

Is the childish frame material bickering ever going to end?
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Life is too short for stupid conspiracy theories.
...but without them, life is sooo much less entertaining.
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Originally Posted by cmschmie
Are you serious?
This caused the crash (and busted leg). The bike he was riding at the time was damaged but not destroyed. Roche gave Contador his bike and waited on team car. Contador rode for who knows how long and stopped, which is why you see the McLaren Tarmac laying on the ground next to Conty when the docs are working on him. In the effort to get the team car up to Contador, the secondary bike busted on the rack when the Saxo and Belkin cars came together.

What the hell is so hard to believe about this?
me thinketh the gentleman doth protest too much
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Originally Posted by knobd

Is the childish frame material bickering ever going to end?

...this is a rhetorical question, right ?
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Old 07-15-14, 12:33 PM
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Paraphrase an adage:

Never attribute to conspiracy that which can be adequately explained by incompetence (by the Spesh PR department).
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Originally Posted by bikemig
Just call 'em carbon skeptics . . . .
...dinosaurs from prior to the Carboniferous.
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Originally Posted by dalava
That's the cause of the crash, NOT random carbon asplosion causing the crash as some instigated here.
Instigated, eh? That's what we were told on live television.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
I see the geniuses have all collected in one thread today...
...I didn't arrive until today, the 15th. What are you saying about me ?
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So what will be the official story from Specialized now? While I like Specialized bikes, I see them only trying to deflect and cover up. That is who they are. Next version- Contador was mugged and the muggers ran over his bike right after.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina

You can't see it now but I'm shooting my six shooters in the air and stomping around my office.

...now we can see it.
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
Instigated, eh? That's what we were told on live television.
Well, I am sure it must be true if we were told on live television.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
This is ridiculous.
....look where you are. Now think about what you just said. You're welcome.
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Originally Posted by kc0bbq
This came by on the live feed just before the end of the stage:

Questioned by letour.fr, Tinkoff-Saxo's directeur sportif Philippe Mauduit who jumped in the second team car to let a free seat to Alberto Contador after his retirement explained: “Alberto badly crashed. His right knee is seriously injured. The crash has been violent. I have his shoe with me, it's completely destroyed. According to some rumors, his bike has been broken but that's not the case. A bike fell from our racks after we fixed Nicolas Roche's bike. It's obviously too early to establish a diagnostic for Alberto. Once he'll reach the finish, he'll undergo an x-ray examination. Before pulling out, he told us that he was in an awful pain and he couldn't go any further on his bike. It's a pity because everything had gone well since the beginning of the Tour. We had a plan and today's race was unfolding exactly as we wanted. In a fraction of a second, it all fell apart, so we're immensely sad. Tomorrow, it's a rest day. After tomorrow, a new battle will begin. We'll stay united and a new Tour de France will begin for us.”
That's funny... they really expect people to believe that a bike falling off the roof (one with race numbers on it as well) would snap like that? Well If that's the case then I'll never buy a Spesh!
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Originally Posted by Campag4life
Specialized better circle the wagons. Out of 200 riders in the TdF probably over 50 are on Tarmacs...lol.

...gee, I wonder how these guys get bikes ?
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Originally Posted by Nachoman
me thinketh the gentlemen doth protest too much
Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, have they encircled the wagons?
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Originally Posted by DXchulo
I've read the whole thread.

THE COVER-UP: Specialized's initial lie that Contador's bike wasn't broken. (This added fuel to conspiracy theorists' fire.)

THE CRIME: The broken frame. (Yes, frames get broken all the time, so IMO this wasn't a huge deal to begin with.)
The bike Contador was riding when he crashed wasn't broken. He traded bikes with Roche who continued the race (temporarily) on Contador's crashed Tarmac. It was one of his two spare bikes on the roof of the team car that got tangled up with the Belkin team car and got crushed. Doesn't seem so criminal when you have all of the facts.
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Originally Posted by dalava
Well, I am sure it must be true if we were told on live television.
So we should have assumed they were lying. A lot of people were I suppose.

Reports suggested that the problem was the frame on Contador's bike literally snapped in half.

https://www.cbssports.com/general/eye-on-sports/24620420/tour-de-france-two-time-champ-alberto-contador-abandons-stage-10

What's interesting is that Roche said "As I helped Alberto up, I noticed his bike was broken..". And this is the broken bike that Tinkoff says crashed at 60kph:

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Originally Posted by Dunbar
.... It was one of his two spare bikes on the roof of the team car that got tangled up with the Belkin team car and got crushed. Doesn't seem so criminal when you have all of the facts.
One of the point to be made was Specialized might have done what you commented on above before spamming out what turned to be a very poorly written response. I think no one would have commented if Specialized said they are "cooperating fully and will comment when all the facts have been gathered and reviewed and the equipment analyzed."

(I do not own a Specialized bike, just a pair of their clipless shoes...pretty nice ones too)

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Not sure if this was posted above and not that I really care (posting for skeptics) but here is the best account I've seen so far ....

Tinkoff Saxo tangle with Belkin bikes identified as cause of snapped Contador frame | CyclingTips
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I think Spesh panicked because someone on TV implied that the frame broke causing the crash (I don't remember the exact wording on NBCSN but I thought at the time upon hearing it: this is a big news if the frame actually snapped and causing the crash), and made some hasty and inaccurate or even erroneous comments trying to absolve themselves. From that point on, anything Spesh said were just red meat for the Spesh hating conspiracists.
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