what makes a good tire lever?
04-09-10, 09:36 PM
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what makes a good tire lever?
I have a set of hard plastic levers (similar to PT's) and was just wondering: what makes a good set of levers? On one hand this is such a simple tool that it's hard to make a bad one, after all.
Yet in various places I read recommendations for this lever or that lever. Is that really that much of a difference?
Yet in various places I read recommendations for this lever or that lever. Is that really that much of a difference?
04-10-10, 06:21 AM
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The best levers I've ever used are the now-discontinued "Pry Babies" sold by Specialized for about $4 for a set of three. They were thin, ergonomically shaped and would get under the beads of even the tightest tires. The only problem is that they eventually broke, as will most plastic levers. The current Park TL-4 or TL-1 plastic levers work well but not quite as well as the Pry Babies.
I've also used the "Quick Stick" single lever. It works well for stripping a tire that's partially off the rim but it's too thick to do the initial removal on tight tires. Finally, I've used the Var "Tire Jack" with mixed results. It helps install a really tight tire but isn't much good at removing them.
I've also used the "Quick Stick" single lever. It works well for stripping a tire that's partially off the rim but it's too thick to do the initial removal on tight tires. Finally, I've used the Var "Tire Jack" with mixed results. It helps install a really tight tire but isn't much good at removing them.
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I've bent a few park tool tire levers when trying to install marathon plus tires.
motorcycle tire levers are really good
you can actually cut the bead on the tire in more than one location without it affecting the integrity of the tire itself. The only problem you might have is that when you flat, it's more likely to roll off the rim.
motorcycle tire levers are really good
you can actually cut the bead on the tire in more than one location without it affecting the integrity of the tire itself. The only problem you might have is that when you flat, it's more likely to roll off the rim.
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I've found the VAR #425 levers particularly good, especially with tight, high-pressure tires.
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04-10-10, 08:04 AM
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I've bent a few park tool tire levers when trying to install marathon plus tires.
motorcycle tire levers are really good
you can actually cut the bead on the tire in more than one location without it affecting the integrity of the tire itself. The only problem you might have is that when you flat, it's more likely to roll off the rim.
motorcycle tire levers are really good
you can actually cut the bead on the tire in more than one location without it affecting the integrity of the tire itself. The only problem you might have is that when you flat, it's more likely to roll off the rim.
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I do have some worn out P2R tires sitting here and some wheels I've built up. Sure, I'll try it.
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https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...1_10000_200500
these work well and are tough
these work well and are tough
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https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...1_10000_200500
these work well and are tough
these work well and are tough
The alloy levers are 6.5 inches long and sufficient to subdue the most recalcitrant tire. The tricky little Koolstop deal doesn't really do anything that the levers can't do (if you have decent hand strength), but it does it easier. Also you need to be aware that devices that work like the Koolstop require the tire to be jammed up above the 2 gripper/brace ends. This means it will not work with wide tires--I'd guess about 28mm is widest.
EDIT note: I discovered belatedly that the "alloy" levers above are actually steel. Use with caution or avoid altogether!!
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Most plastic ones are cool when used in pairs. I stay away from aluminum ones. I feel they're not very slick and create too much friction on wheel surfaces.
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Although I carry tire irons on all my bike and have a set in my toolbox.......I have never used them.
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Depending on what rim and tire width and make combination you use, I'd say you've been lucky. I've come across tires so tight I needed tire levers to get the FIRST bead seated. And, yes. there have been combinations that fit loose enough to remove and install with hand pressure only.
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I've used LOTS of different levers over the last 4 decades.
These are what I prefer for carrying on the bike
Topeak Shuttle
I like the Park TL-5 levers in the shop.
These are what I prefer for carrying on the bike
Topeak Shuttle
I like the Park TL-5 levers in the shop.
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04-11-10, 07:49 AM
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I can't imagine how cutting the bead would not affect the integrity of the tire
04-11-10, 10:07 AM
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it works, really easy to mount the tire after cutting the bead in a few spots.
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A few minutes ago, when I was reading the newer posts, I got top thinking about it again and took a closer look at the alloy levers I recommended. They felt awfully heavy for aluminum alloy, so I ran them by my cyclocomputer magnet--oops, they're magnetic.
I've been robbed! Went back to the freefortbikes site and sure enough it says they are alloy (which I took to mean they are aluminum alloy). I looked up the meaning of alloy and it's just a blend of more than one metallic ingredient--steel, in fact, is an alloy in itself (iron and carbon).
So these levers are actually steel and I take back my recommendation. Maybe they're ok for initially getting a bead over a rim, but I surely would not slide them around an alloy rim (like I did yesterday--OUCH!)
The good news is they did in fact defeat the Marathon Plus without breaking . . .
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I inflated it to 120psi and only cut it in 4 spots around one side
after all, it's only really hard to mount the second bead.
after all, it's only really hard to mount the second bead.
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Origin8 and Soma both make steel cored plastic coated tire levers. I have a set of the Soma ones that have not bent or busted yet. The plastic overmould does prevent rim scratching. Lezyne offers aluminum levers.
IMO the difficulty of mounting Marathon Plus tires is VERY rim dependent. I just mounted a pair of 50-559 Marathon Plus Tour tires on the Salsa Gordo rims on my Surly Big Dummy wihout any need for tire levers at all. Mounting a narrower set of Marathon Plus tires on the Alex rims on my Swobo Dixon on the other hand was a real fight. I ended up using the Kool Stop Tire Jack.
IMO the difficulty of mounting Marathon Plus tires is VERY rim dependent. I just mounted a pair of 50-559 Marathon Plus Tour tires on the Salsa Gordo rims on my Surly Big Dummy wihout any need for tire levers at all. Mounting a narrower set of Marathon Plus tires on the Alex rims on my Swobo Dixon on the other hand was a real fight. I ended up using the Kool Stop Tire Jack.
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I have a pair of SOMA levers which I carry on the bike due to their reliability and a set of steel tire levers in my garage.
When I get stuck with putting a really tight bead back onto the rim, I just attack as one would if you were mounting a tubular. It works out.
When I get stuck with putting a really tight bead back onto the rim, I just attack as one would if you were mounting a tubular. It works out.
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