Removal suggestions for mangled barrel adjuster?
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Removal suggestions for mangled barrel adjuster?
I managed to fully mangle the barrel adjuster on my brake lever :-/ I was trying to loosen it and I not so smartly used a pair of pliers with excessive force promptly sheared off the adjuster. Oops!
Does anyone have suggesting for how I might get the remaining piece out in order to replace it? Or alternatively suggestions for affordable replacement levers? The metal seems strangely soft and my attempts with pliers seem only to further mangle. I'd be grateful for any tips. Thank you!
Does anyone have suggesting for how I might get the remaining piece out in order to replace it? Or alternatively suggestions for affordable replacement levers? The metal seems strangely soft and my attempts with pliers seem only to further mangle. I'd be grateful for any tips. Thank you!
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The reason that had you resort to pliers nay make removal now impossible.
I'd start by removing from the bike and scrubbing with water, dish detergent and a toothbrush, especially at the slot.
Then dry in a toaster oven at 180 or so g or an hour or so. Finally use penetrating oil.
Try to gently turn it with a Torx key tapped in so it cuts the shape and can drive it. There's a good chance that you'll need to drill it out, then re-tap to clean out the thread.
Overall, if cleaning and penetrating oil doesn't work, the alternatives may be costly enough to suggest shopping for new levers.
I'd start by removing from the bike and scrubbing with water, dish detergent and a toothbrush, especially at the slot.
Then dry in a toaster oven at 180 or so g or an hour or so. Finally use penetrating oil.
Try to gently turn it with a Torx key tapped in so it cuts the shape and can drive it. There's a good chance that you'll need to drill it out, then re-tap to clean out the thread.
Overall, if cleaning and penetrating oil doesn't work, the alternatives may be costly enough to suggest shopping for new levers.
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it looks like the threads in the Lever are also somewhat mangled... any attempt to drill the remainder of the adjuster out will not go well since the adjuster is slotted and the drill will not remain centered... there's a small chance that a REVERSE drill bit will grab the adjuster and UNSCREW IT.. i love it when that works... it rarely works.
ity looks like a small diameter adjuster... the thread size is usually 7x1mm, if i recall... Tap Drill Size is 15/64.. i'd not try the Max TDS and go with a 7/32" drill, or even a 3/16" drill bit if you choose to attempt the nearly impossible and drill a centered hole through a slotted aluminum part.... If you get lucky and maintain center, then work up to the maximum TDS. Using a Drill Press after removing the Lever assy from the bike is highly recommended.
Pick all the debris out of the slot, use some penetrating oil, then try using a small flat blade screwdriver to remove it.. The problem is that this will also force the thing to spread some and the threads will stick even more. How mangled is the back side?
I'd advise that you hit up your local Co-op for a decent replacement lever.
ity looks like a small diameter adjuster... the thread size is usually 7x1mm, if i recall... Tap Drill Size is 15/64.. i'd not try the Max TDS and go with a 7/32" drill, or even a 3/16" drill bit if you choose to attempt the nearly impossible and drill a centered hole through a slotted aluminum part.... If you get lucky and maintain center, then work up to the maximum TDS. Using a Drill Press after removing the Lever assy from the bike is highly recommended.
Pick all the debris out of the slot, use some penetrating oil, then try using a small flat blade screwdriver to remove it.. The problem is that this will also force the thing to spread some and the threads will stick even more. How mangled is the back side?
I'd advise that you hit up your local Co-op for a decent replacement lever.
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I'd look into penetrating oil and an EZ-Out. There's already a nice hole in the piece that needs to unscrew.
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+1 for the EZ-out.
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Honestly I think you might just be better off getting some new levers, the hassle of trying to remove that and then clean it up and find new parts will cost way more time and energy and potentially money then it is worth.
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Looks like it took a tumble, may have crushed the lever down onto the adjuster. Replace.
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Douse with oil, try to wedge a small flathead screwdriver in the remaining adjuster bit, and pry open the lever body a bit with a larger screwdriver while turning the adjuster bit out.
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Any chance you can get at the back (undamaged) side with a small slotted screwdrver?
Make yourself a point on your small slotted screwdriver
Open your lever as shown
GENTLY find the cable slot on the back side of the adjuster and turn out.
Make yourself a point on your small slotted screwdriver
Open your lever as shown
GENTLY find the cable slot on the back side of the adjuster and turn out.
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This! pry the lever body open a bit and then turn the adjuster out ward from the inside of the lever. It is easier that way and does less damage. A wire brush bit will clean the threaded part of the lever and all you will need to do is find a new adjuster at your co-op. Smiles, MH
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Easy out in the adjuster. It should already have a hole. And gently pry the slot open. Not enough to permanently deform it, but just enough to relieve some of the pressure on the threads. Try not to damage the threads in the process.
A little penetrating oil wouldn't hurt.
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If jamming something into it like the tang of a small file doesn't get it to turn, use the cable slot to cut all the way through it from the side with a loose hacksaw blade. Take is easy on the far side, but you will cut a little bit into the threads. That won't matter. Give the part sticking out a little squeeze and try the screwdriver to turn it out.
Loosey lefty.
If you can't get it out in 20 minutes, spend $20 on some used levers.
Loosey lefty.
If you can't get it out in 20 minutes, spend $20 on some used levers.
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It may be that you'll get better access to the inside of the brake lever if you remove it from the bars. Or push it forward to the curved part of the bars.
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If, as suggested, the hole ID has been crushed undersize in a spill, you may need to rethread it to get a new adjuster to thread in.
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it looks like the threads in the Lever are also somewhat mangled... any attempt to drill the remainder of the adjuster out will not go well since the adjuster is slotted and the drill will not remain centered... there's a small chance that a REVERSE drill bit will grab the adjuster and UNSCREW IT.. i love it when that works... it rarely works.
Thank you all for the many thoughtful and creative suggestions. I really appreciate the bike-forum members sharing of experience and expertise. Hoping it some of it will rub off on me!
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Ha - this made me laugh. "Rarely works" has also been my experience with reverse drill bits but I decide to try anyway. I used some penetrating oil along with the ez-out. I also pried the cable slot with a flat head screwdriver as some had suggested. I futzed for about 20 minute before mangling the whole thing to oblivion. I will now be hunting for replacement brake levers. Hopefully I can find something at the co-op.
Thank you all for the many thoughtful and creative suggestions. I really appreciate the bike-forum members sharing of experience and expertise. Hoping it some of it will rub off on me!
Thank you all for the many thoughtful and creative suggestions. I really appreciate the bike-forum members sharing of experience and expertise. Hoping it some of it will rub off on me!
Tip: If removing rubbery grips, slip an old dull long blade screwdriver in from the brake side(move the brake perch inward to make room)..... then squirt a bit of CRC Lectra-motive in.. Quickly Remove the Screwdriver and twist the grip loose... To re-install, Clean the bar with a bit of CRC Lectra-motive and a paper towel to remove any oils and gunk.. squirt a bit into the grip, roll it around to distribute, then slide the grip on.. let set for an hour or so. Always Wear Safety Glasses/Goggles when using nasty chemicals. Too much CRC Lectra on the outside of the grip will dissolve some of the rubbery stuff and leave a mess... I towel it off quickly if it gets on the outside.
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Ha - this made me laugh. "Rarely works" has also been my experience with reverse drill bits but I decide to try anyway. I used some penetrating oil along with the ez-out. I also pried the cable slot with a flat head screwdriver as some had suggested. I futzed for about 20 minute before mangling the whole thing to oblivion. I will now be hunting for replacement brake levers. Hopefully I can find something at the co-op.
Thank you all for the many thoughtful and creative suggestions. I really appreciate the bike-forum members sharing of experience and expertise. Hoping it some of it will rub off on me!
Thank you all for the many thoughtful and creative suggestions. I really appreciate the bike-forum members sharing of experience and expertise. Hoping it some of it will rub off on me!
If the co-op doesn't pan out, I'm sure that if you post in the ISO thread someone will pop up with a pair of something.
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Ha - this made me laugh. "Rarely works" has also been my experience with reverse drill bits but I decide to try anyway. I used some penetrating oil along with the ez-out. I also pried the cable slot with a flat head screwdriver as some had suggested. I futzed for about 20 minute before mangling the whole thing to oblivion. I will now be hunting for replacement brake levers. Hopefully I can find something at the co-op.
Thank you all for the many thoughtful and creative suggestions. I really appreciate the bike-forum members sharing of experience and expertise. Hoping it some of it will rub off on me!
Thank you all for the many thoughtful and creative suggestions. I really appreciate the bike-forum members sharing of experience and expertise. Hoping it some of it will rub off on me!