head on collision with another commuter today
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head on collision with another commuter today
This morning i took my long route to work, a 20 mile loop that takes me along the river. Was having a great time and met up with a co worker to ride the rest of the way into work. We were rounding a blind corner on the MUP and I was taking the center of the path my buddy on the right and out of no where comes a roadie in full gear on the aero bars about 12 mph around the corner. I tried to swerve right but not fast enough and she clipped my bars and left leg and just flew over her bars taking her bike along. I emerged unscathed and ran back to where she landed and had to unclip her feet. She was in bad shape but managed to ride off.
She admitted being at fault for speeding around a blind corner and she had no brake access on the aero bars. I was partially at fault for not being on the far right. Made for an interesting commute to say the least.
She admitted being at fault for speeding around a blind corner and she had no brake access on the aero bars. I was partially at fault for not being on the far right. Made for an interesting commute to say the least.
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Wow, glad you are OK.
I see people riding aerobars on the MUP I commute on. At 6am when the MUP is empty, no problem, but in the evening when the MUP is crowded with kids, rollerbladers, joggers, etc., I just shake my head.
I see people riding aerobars on the MUP I commute on. At 6am when the MUP is empty, no problem, but in the evening when the MUP is crowded with kids, rollerbladers, joggers, etc., I just shake my head.
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Glad you're OK. I've seen people using aerobars on the MUP too. I don't get it.
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MUPs with blind curves are effing dangerous; frankly, all MUPs are risky. It's like biking on a two way sidewalk used by every sort of noob imagineable, plus dogs and kids.
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Glad you're ok. On the MUP trail I occasionally take there are some tricky spots where instead of directly crossing a street (on a bridge) you go backwards and sort of cloverleaf around to the other side. Usually very sharp and steep but short distances, I had a guy pass me on the beginning descent once. I mean the whole length of the turn is maybe 30 yards if it was straight. Ridiculous. MUP riding is like mario kart biking. You never know when a turtle shell (dog on a long leash) is just going whack ya!
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I'll be the unpopular voice I suppose. I think you were at fault. I treat my bike like a car, which means holding my "lane". If you went around a corner in the middle of the street on a 2 lane road and clipped the car coming the other way it wouldn't matter if they were a driving instructor doing everything picture perfect or a circus performer juggling bowling pins. They were in their lane, you weren't, your fault. While aerobars on a MUP is probably not the best plan in this case they are irrelevant.
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I'll be the unpopular voice I suppose. I think you were at fault. I treat my bike like a car, which means holding my "lane". If you went around a corner in the middle of the street on a 2 lane road and clipped the car coming the other way it wouldn't matter if they were a driving instructor doing everything picture perfect or a circus performer juggling bowling pins. They were in their lane, you weren't, your fault. While aerobars on a MUP is probably not the best plan in this case they are irrelevant.
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Exactly. As a frequent rider on the Greenway, I don't agree with your conclusion that it has model traffic. I've regularly had the usual MUP-related incidents on it and certainly wouldn't hold it up as a shining example of "something better."
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It's the widest MUP in Minneapolis from Hiawatha to it's western connection. Plus, it has uninterrupted right of way, clear sight lines and on/off ramps. There is plenty of bone-headed behavior by pedestrians and cyclists alike, but the extra room and vision make it a much safer option than Lake Street IMO.
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MUPs are the 3rd most dangerous type of riding listed here... about 2-3 times more dangerous than a road. Of course, sidewalks and off-road stuff is the most dangerous.
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MUPs are the 3rd most dangerous type of riding listed here... about 2-3 times more dangerous than a road. Of course, sidewalks and off-road stuff is the most dangerous.
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We ride the road . . .
MUPs are not the best place to ride double or with aerobars.
MUPs are not the best place to ride double or with aerobars.
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I'll be the unpopular voice I suppose. I think you were at fault. I treat my bike like a car, which means holding my "lane". If you went around a corner in the middle of the street on a 2 lane road and clipped the car coming the other way it wouldn't matter if they were a driving instructor doing everything picture perfect or a circus performer juggling bowling pins. They were in their lane, you weren't, your fault. While aerobars on a MUP is probably not the best plan in this case they are irrelevant.
Was the girl partly at fault for riding with aerobars alone in the middle of her own lane? Maybe. But only because she was unable to avoid an obstacle in her lane in a blind corner because he didn't switch to the drops for a few moments as a defensive driving manouver. 12mph ain't exactly race speeds and being clipped in isn't irresponsible or illegal - in fact its perfectly normal for most roadies.
But the riders that actually caused the accident were you and your buddy. And apparently you got off a lot lighter than the girl you hit.
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After thinking it over today at work I do feel more at fault. I should have used more caution when rounding the blind corner and kept to the far right. As it was, the lady and I were both traveling in the middle of the path and this is what really caused the accident. That and the fact she could not use her brakes like I was able to. Let this incident be a lesson/reminder to everyone to use caution whenever you take a blind corner. I became complacent after taking this corner hundreds of times without incident or even seeing someone at 5am.
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MUPs are the 3rd most dangerous type of riding listed here... about 2-3 times more dangerous than a road. Of course, sidewalks and off-road stuff is the most dangerous.
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I'll be the unpopular voice I suppose. I think you were at fault. I treat my bike like a car, which means holding my "lane". If you went around a corner in the middle of the street on a 2 lane road and clipped the car coming the other way it wouldn't matter if they were a driving instructor doing everything picture perfect or a circus performer juggling bowling pins. They were in their lane, you weren't, your fault. While aerobars on a MUP is probably not the best plan in this case they are irrelevant.
If the girl was in her own lane, it doesn't matter if she is using aero bars or not; it is still your fault. 12 mph isn't all that fast. I've learned to not trust people on MUPs; they often do crazy things and I've dropped my speed down a lot on the MUP.
You are very fortunate this time. Next time, follow the rules of the road.
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MUPs are the 3rd most dangerous type of riding listed here... about 2-3 times more dangerous than a road. Of course, sidewalks and off-road stuff is the most dangerous.
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To those of you who keep lecturing me about being at fault here, I did not post my story to get a lecture on rules of the road. Both of us were traveling in the center of the path, with my buddy to the right of me. So yes, had either the lady or myself been traveling in our appropriate lane this would have been avoided. I am fully aware of this. Im no longer new to bike commuting.