Cool Bike Friendly Story (I think, anyway)
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Cool Bike Friendly Story (I think, anyway)
There are two grocery stores (both Dillons, since they have a monopoly in Wichita) that are about 2 miles away from my apartment. One has a bike rack, and one doesn't. The one that does is a PITA to get to. It's a straight shot up a 4 lane (2 each way) arterial, 45 mph speed limit. The other is a leisurely ride through a nice development. The no bike rack store is smaller and not quite as nice, while the other has more selection and is generally nicer/cleaner. I used to go to the easy to get to store, but had to lock up to the cart return. Potentially perilous for bike integrity. Plus, it's all the way out in the parking lot! (When people ask my why I don't have a car, I tell them I do it for the parking. ) One day, I needed a roll of quarters, so I went to the customer service desk. When I was there, I asked the random guy there at 9PM at night, "Hey, why don't you guys have a bike rack?"
He says, "Well, one time someone was leaning on it, slipped off, and fell. She then threatened to sue the property owner because she thought the bike rack was dangerous. The property owner decided to get rid of it to avoid a lawsuit."
I replied, "You just made that up on the spot didn't you. That story is BS, right?"
He laughed and said, "Nope, I was here when it happened. It's the truth."
I shook my head and said, "Wow, that's asinine. The nerve of some people to try to capitalize on their own stupidity."
He said, "Yea, tell me about it."
I asked, "Well, hey, is there a manager around who knows who the property owner is? I'd like to tell him that us cyclists would me more inclined to use this plaza if there was a bike rack for us."
He said, "No, but one will be at 7AM tomorrow." No good for me, I'll be on my way to work. I thanked him and left, and thought nothing more of it. I decided I would use the other store, even though its a pain to get to since they have a bike rack (even though it's not covered).
So for 2 months or so, I've been hammering my way to the other store and back. Prevailing winds are from the south here, and this store is due north and downhill from my apartment. I have to say, hammering with a full load in traffic, uphill, in the rain in a 20+ mph headwind != fun.
Today, I had to go to the sporting goods store to get some water repellent for my rain cover, since the last three days of downpours have made it readily apparent that the water repelling capabilities of my rain cover are woefully inadequate. I went to the grocery store yesterday, but forgot rolls for dinner tonight. Fack! O well, the easy-to-get-to Dillons is 1/4 mile away from Dicks, so I decided to stop there instead of going 4 more miles to the other store and another 2 home.
While looking around for something to lock up to other than the cart return (sometimes there's this rack with a stack of doormats in it that I can lock up to), I happened to notice a bike rack! It looked brand new (still had a tag on it)! Albeit a tiny wheelbender, there it was, under the awning and everything! Now since Wichita is about as progressive as Pakistan and since I've seen <5 other cyclists (not including guys on bikes) in the city, I'm going to have to assume that bike rack has at least a significant part of it reason for being there because of me. I have yet to meet another person who's only transportation is the bus or their bikes. Most think I'm insane. I HIGHLY doubt anyone else asked about it. That said, I think that's flippin' cool that two months later, a bike rack randomly appears. +10,000 kudos points to Dillons at 21st and Rock Rd. I'm going to go there now unless they don't have what I need and I have to go to the other store. Way to go, guys!
He says, "Well, one time someone was leaning on it, slipped off, and fell. She then threatened to sue the property owner because she thought the bike rack was dangerous. The property owner decided to get rid of it to avoid a lawsuit."
I replied, "You just made that up on the spot didn't you. That story is BS, right?"
He laughed and said, "Nope, I was here when it happened. It's the truth."
I shook my head and said, "Wow, that's asinine. The nerve of some people to try to capitalize on their own stupidity."
He said, "Yea, tell me about it."
I asked, "Well, hey, is there a manager around who knows who the property owner is? I'd like to tell him that us cyclists would me more inclined to use this plaza if there was a bike rack for us."
He said, "No, but one will be at 7AM tomorrow." No good for me, I'll be on my way to work. I thanked him and left, and thought nothing more of it. I decided I would use the other store, even though its a pain to get to since they have a bike rack (even though it's not covered).
So for 2 months or so, I've been hammering my way to the other store and back. Prevailing winds are from the south here, and this store is due north and downhill from my apartment. I have to say, hammering with a full load in traffic, uphill, in the rain in a 20+ mph headwind != fun.
Today, I had to go to the sporting goods store to get some water repellent for my rain cover, since the last three days of downpours have made it readily apparent that the water repelling capabilities of my rain cover are woefully inadequate. I went to the grocery store yesterday, but forgot rolls for dinner tonight. Fack! O well, the easy-to-get-to Dillons is 1/4 mile away from Dicks, so I decided to stop there instead of going 4 more miles to the other store and another 2 home.
While looking around for something to lock up to other than the cart return (sometimes there's this rack with a stack of doormats in it that I can lock up to), I happened to notice a bike rack! It looked brand new (still had a tag on it)! Albeit a tiny wheelbender, there it was, under the awning and everything! Now since Wichita is about as progressive as Pakistan and since I've seen <5 other cyclists (not including guys on bikes) in the city, I'm going to have to assume that bike rack has at least a significant part of it reason for being there because of me. I have yet to meet another person who's only transportation is the bus or their bikes. Most think I'm insane. I HIGHLY doubt anyone else asked about it. That said, I think that's flippin' cool that two months later, a bike rack randomly appears. +10,000 kudos points to Dillons at 21st and Rock Rd. I'm going to go there now unless they don't have what I need and I have to go to the other store. Way to go, guys!
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Do you think you could come to Pennsylvania and ask my Barnes & Noble to get a rack? I make mention of it everytime I'm there (about once a week). Usually just to the cashier, but once I actually got a manager who told me bike racks were not "cost effective." *sigh*
My current plan is to make every employee so sick of listening to me tell them how nice it would be if they had a bike rack, they will eventually get one to make me shut up. So far, I haven't been irritating enough.
My current plan is to make every employee so sick of listening to me tell them how nice it would be if they had a bike rack, they will eventually get one to make me shut up. So far, I haven't been irritating enough.
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Do you think you could come to Pennsylvania and ask my Barnes & Noble to get a rack? I make mention of it everytime I'm there (about once a week). Usually just to the cashier, but once I actually got a manager who told me bike racks were not "cost effective." *sigh*
My current plan is to make every employee so sick of listening to me tell them how nice it would be if they had a bike rack, they will eventually get one to make me shut up. So far, I haven't been irritating enough.
My current plan is to make every employee so sick of listening to me tell them how nice it would be if they had a bike rack, they will eventually get one to make me shut up. So far, I haven't been irritating enough.
B&N here doesn't have one either (neither of them). I just use the handicapped parking sign.
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They need a bike rack at Walmart, so that people don't get into fights with the greeters and get naked to make a point.
No, really, they need a rack at Walmart. I can't believe it. I mean, a bunch of people who shop there rely on bikes for transportation. Why wouldn't they have a rack? I rode there recently to pick up a prescription and I had to lock up to the cart holder among the Bobtail parkers.
No, really, they need a rack at Walmart. I can't believe it. I mean, a bunch of people who shop there rely on bikes for transportation. Why wouldn't they have a rack? I rode there recently to pick up a prescription and I had to lock up to the cart holder among the Bobtail parkers.
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cool, write them a letter letting them know how much its appreciated.
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"Wichita is about as progressive as Pakistan"
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Now I have to clean my the Coffee off my Keyboard and screen!!!!!
Which Dillons are you going to....I lived on Topeka&Indianapolis (Just south of Kellogg) for quite a while and went to the Dillions on Harry&Broadway (Too Ghetto) or the one on Thirteenth&Waco (Somewhat Better)
Welcome to BF.....Hope yer stayin Dry!!
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Now I have to clean my the Coffee off my Keyboard and screen!!!!!
Which Dillons are you going to....I lived on Topeka&Indianapolis (Just south of Kellogg) for quite a while and went to the Dillions on Harry&Broadway (Too Ghetto) or the one on Thirteenth&Waco (Somewhat Better)
Welcome to BF.....Hope yer stayin Dry!!
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They need a bike rack at Walmart, so that people don't get into fights with the greeters and get naked to make a point.
No, really, they need a rack at Walmart. I can't believe it. I mean, a bunch of people who shop there rely on bikes for transportation. Why wouldn't they have a rack? I rode there recently to pick up a prescription and I had to lock up to the cart holder among the Bobtail parkers.
No, really, they need a rack at Walmart. I can't believe it. I mean, a bunch of people who shop there rely on bikes for transportation. Why wouldn't they have a rack? I rode there recently to pick up a prescription and I had to lock up to the cart holder among the Bobtail parkers.
...To the OP, congratulations on requesting a bike rack in a reasonable manner and actually being heard.
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Keep this quiet!
My local grocery store, Woodman's, has me bring mine inside behind the customer service desk, where they watch it for me.
Don't even lock it up, and it's easy to pack, while you are out of the weather and inside.
My local grocery store, Woodman's, has me bring mine inside behind the customer service desk, where they watch it for me.
Don't even lock it up, and it's easy to pack, while you are out of the weather and inside.
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There's a nice bike rack at Publix at SR 524+SR 528 in Cocoa, Fl. that you can have for free. Since it is not bolted or chained, it's ok to just take it, right? (heard that one before?) I kindly mentioned this FAIL to an employee today, who promised to talk to the manager.
I locked up to a palm tree in the parking lot. Safe enough for me, but pity some soccer Mom who thinks the rack is safe to lock to.
I locked up to a palm tree in the parking lot. Safe enough for me, but pity some soccer Mom who thinks the rack is safe to lock to.
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I've also walked my bike around K-mart with me once... nobody tried to stop me, I think they had no idea what to do since there was no precedent.
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That is a nice story!
I'm not car free but the couple times I rode to my dentist I brought the bike up the elevator and parked in his office. He apparently walks and takes Metro.
I'm not car free but the couple times I rode to my dentist I brought the bike up the elevator and parked in his office. He apparently walks and takes Metro.
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I live on Kadena Air Base in Okinawa and there aren't many bike racks to speak of. The commissary doesn't have one at all. In fact, off base there aren't too many either. I usually find a light pole, drain pole, or tree to lock to. Sorry to get off point, but can anybody recommend a good kick stand for a mtb with 700c that doesn't weigh more than the bike?
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Very cool story! Fortunately most everywhere I go on my bike has a rack, but Target doesn't seem to have gotten the memo. The one at Meijer is at the back entrance, so I either have to go before 10pm, or walk around the store (going before 10pm is the more logical answer since its dark out, though I did just get a fancy new light). Usually there are benches around at places that don't have racks, and that's where I wind up locking my bike, or to a lamp post. Not ideal (and I scratched the bike once this way) but a rack would be so nice!
I used to work at Meijer, and I have to say that unless a manager saw it (and even then) very likely they just aren't paid enough to care - that is if there is a policy in place that says you can do it. In the absence of a policy, well then, you're just giving the employees something to talk about. The stories my brother tells me from working at Kroger are very similar. Something out of the ordinary is more likely to generate excitement and chit-chat amongst the employees than it is to get the attention of someone who cares enough to do something about it, policy or not.
I used to work at Meijer, and I have to say that unless a manager saw it (and even then) very likely they just aren't paid enough to care - that is if there is a policy in place that says you can do it. In the absence of a policy, well then, you're just giving the employees something to talk about. The stories my brother tells me from working at Kroger are very similar. Something out of the ordinary is more likely to generate excitement and chit-chat amongst the employees than it is to get the attention of someone who cares enough to do something about it, policy or not.
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I used to work at Meijer, and I have to say that unless a manager saw it (and even then) very likely they just aren't paid enough to care - that is if there is a policy in place that says you can do it. In the absence of a policy, well then, you're just giving the employees something to talk about. The stories my brother tells me from working at Kroger are very similar.
The buffet restaurant I went to tonight has a bike rack. Most of the restaurants I've been to have bike racks. One used to even give me a discount with a little coupon book from work, since I commuted. I've gone to bars with bike racks, too. The libraries I've been to have bike racks. I work in a school district, and all the schools have tons of bike racks. Some even have them within a fenced area that can be locked during the day.
Home Depot doesn't have one, but they let me bring the bike in.
...I'm really starting to think that this is a regional thing.
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They need a bike rack at Walmart, so that people don't get into fights with the greeters and get naked to make a point.
No, really, they need a rack at Walmart. I can't believe it. I mean, a bunch of people who shop there rely on bikes for transportation. Why wouldn't they have a rack? I rode there recently to pick up a prescription and I had to lock up to the cart holder among the Bobtail parkers.
No, really, they need a rack at Walmart. I can't believe it. I mean, a bunch of people who shop there rely on bikes for transportation. Why wouldn't they have a rack? I rode there recently to pick up a prescription and I had to lock up to the cart holder among the Bobtail parkers.
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How about you convince (err advocate?) the employes to ride bikes to work, thus putting real monetary pressure on the owner! Then you can go to him with a positive comment such as "it's really nice to see so many of your employes being socially aware and riding bikes - oh and nice selection of Bio™ food btw!". I can hardly believe he won't be compelled into starting to do the advocacy himself! Hellz, maybe even start riding a bike.
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The Walmart by me does have a bike rack; I used it the one and only time I rode there. Since then, I've driven, as it's much safer.
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The Sports Basement store in the San Francisco presidio encourages people to bring their bikes inside. Unfortunately it's because bikes have been boosted from there before.
It does make it easy to match accessories to the bike though.
It does make it easy to match accessories to the bike though.
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Walmart in town used to have a rack. Disappeared this summer, and the people at the CS desk just shrug.
Brand new Target in town without one also.
But, the city itself is about to install public racks in a couple of places downtown. Baby steps.
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Brand new Target in town without one also.
But, the city itself is about to install public racks in a couple of places downtown. Baby steps.
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They need a bike rack at Walmart, so that people don't get into fights with the greeters and get naked to make a point.
No, really, they need a rack at Walmart. I can't believe it. I mean, a bunch of people who shop there rely on bikes for transportation. Why wouldn't they have a rack? I rode there recently to pick up a prescription and I had to lock up to the cart holder among the Bobtail parkers.
No, really, they need a rack at Walmart. I can't believe it. I mean, a bunch of people who shop there rely on bikes for transportation. Why wouldn't they have a rack? I rode there recently to pick up a prescription and I had to lock up to the cart holder among the Bobtail parkers.
At a local restaurant/pub, I left my bike outside the door while I went in to drink a cold adult beverage and talk to the owner about band bookings. The bartender went outside, pulled my bike inside and leaned it against the wall and informed me that he liked nice bikes and didn't want to worry about it getting pinched! Nice folks!