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Old 06-26-23, 03:54 AM
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mystery bicycle tool Sherlock............

Found this with a lot of bicycle tools/parts at a local estate-sale yesterday. I knew what all the other tools were for easily enough, but I never saw one of these before. My clues as to what the tool is are that the hubs from the sale are Campy Record, and that there were serious bicycle specific tools at the sale. My best guess right now is it may be for some brand of quality bicycle pedal? There is no standard part of an older bicycle that this tool would work for, so that is my deduction.




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If you don't have a Helicomatic hub, it doesn't matter what it is
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Your deduction is correct: it's a wrench designed for disassembly of pedals. Those who guessed that it's a wrench for Helicomatic hubs---note that the round openings in the wrench are a little too small to fit the Helicomatic lock ring.

The round opening with the fine teeth is for Campy and Campy-style pedal caps. The other is for some other pedal that would have been current at the time, though I don't recognize it. The hex openings are for the locking nut and cone of the pedals.

Editing to note that the tool is meant for pedals from the classic era of Campagnolo components, when many of their designs remained unchanged (aside from minor variations, such as replacing steel bolts with titanium for Super Record rear derailleurs) for literally decades.

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Velobase has it listed as:
Artisan Tool & Die pedal wrench
Double-ended pedal tool for removing dustcaps and pedal spindle locknuts. One end fit Campagnolo style dustcaps; the other Kyokuto "Pro-Ace" dustcaps.

https://velobase.com/ViewTool.aspx?I...b87&AbsPos=282
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That is cool information thank-you very much. Maybe someday I will run across some Campy or KKT pedals second-hand and I will be all set.
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Am I seeing a "Dork Disk" in the video?

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Did you pay $75 for it?
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Did you pay $75 for it?
That is a decimal in front of the "75", plus it was the second day of the estate sale so it was half-off tagged price. So altogether the hubs and tools were about ten dollars.

I found out that the estate belonged to an avid cyclist named Jeffery Ankiel who died late last year at 69 years of age from some type of cancer. RIP
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Originally Posted by beng1
That is cool information thank-you very much. Maybe someday I will run across some Campy or KKT pedals second-hand and I will be all set.
...you need a couple of other tools, once you get the end caps off. But the journey of a thousand miles, begins with but a single step. This and a 10mm socket works on many of them, if you clamp the spindle flats in a vise while you work.

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Originally Posted by beng1
That is a decimal in front of the "75", plus it was the second day of the estate sale so it was half-off tagged price. So altogether the hubs and tools were about ten dollars.

I found out that the estate belonged to an avid cyclist named Jeffery Ankiel who died late last year at 69 years of age from some type of cancer. RIP
...I am 74 this year. If you want, I will let my wife know, to notify you about the garage sale when she gets rid of all my bike stuff.
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
The round opening with the fine teeth is for Campy and Campy-style pedal caps. The other is for some other pedal that would have been current at the time, though I don't recognize it.
The other opening is for Kyokuto "Pro-Ace" pedal dustcaps, as I noted in my Velobase entry.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...I am 74 this year. If you want, I will let my wife know, to notify you about the garage sale when she gets rid of all my bike stuff.
My guess is most on this forum are too far away to make that practical. My method is to go with what is local and free or cheap when it comes to cycling or anything else. But thank-you for the thought. I am sure you have a local cycling buddy you can leave all of your belongings to, that is what I have lined up for my bikes and equipment.
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Originally Posted by beng1
My guess is most on this forum are too far away to make that practical. My method is to go with what is local and free or cheap when it comes to cycling or anything else. But thank-you for the thought. I am sure you have a local cycling buddy you can leave all of your belongings to, that is what I have lined up for my bikes and equipment.
...this is why we worked so hard to get the bike co-op here on a solid, sustainable foundation. But you never know about the material plane. These are all things of the dust, really, and it's unrealistic to expect they will continue to be valuable to the people we leave behind. Anyway, that's where I'm at on it right now...working on losing "attachment".
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...this is why we worked so hard to get the bike co-op here on a solid, sustainable foundation. But you never know about the material plane. These are all things of the dust, really, and it's unrealistic to expect they will continue to be valuable to the people we leave behind. Anyway, that's where I'm at on it right now...working on losing "attachment".
There is an alleged bicycle coop in my town but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It is run by a Christian church so it seems biased in that way to me. And I don't see them giving any bikes away that people donate to them, they ask money for the bikes, and they ask people to go there and donate their time to work on the bikes. Some of the people working there end up with any high-end bikes that are donated. My personal program is if I run across any old bikes for free, I fix them up myself and give them to the first person I run into that wants a bike no strings attached.

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Originally Posted by beng1
There is an alleged bicycle coop in my town but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It is run by a Christian church so it seems biased in that way to me. And I don't see them giving any bikes away that people donate to them, they ask money for the bikes, and they ask people to go there and donate their time to work on the bikes. Some of the people working there end up with any high-end bikes that are donated. My personal program is if I run across any old bikes for free, I fix them up myself and give them to the first person I run into that wants a bike no strings attached.

...I have no idea about the funding for yours, but ours has overhead operating costs, even it the labor is all volunteer. It wouldn't stay open long, if all the bikes that get donated for free, are then given away for free. And most people are not looking for a bicycle to fix themselves, even if an ideal world would use that model. The high end bikes that get donated don't seem to have a huge resale value any more, so I'm not certain why you object to the people who donate their time working there, fixing the broke bikes to sell (hopefully pretty cheaply), and thus have a demonstrated interest in this sort of thing, ought to get first pick. As it stands, when I was there, we supplied a great many bicycles to another organization that operated here with a specific mission to give free bikes and repairs to existing bikes to the homeless community here. Which is pretty large in this town.

But they were bicycles that were of more practical use to that community, not higher end road bikes, Which are pretty useless if you are unhoused and looking for basic transportation. Even that organization sold the higher end bikes in a small store, to fund their larger operation.

This was an issue that was repeatedly brought up here, in various tirades on Facebook and at meetings by people who were sure that someone was working the system, to get all the good stuff.

As someone on the inside in this particular operation, I saw much less of that than seems to be imagined. While your own personal model might yield some results, it is only sustainable for as long as you, personally , are able to sustain it. Don't get me wrong, any volunteer organization I've been involved with has had some major issues. They seem to relate mostly to the people who choose to be involved, and their own personal vision of the mission. The stated mission varies with the organization, and it is rarely in agreement with the visions of the various participants. This is the nature of all human activity that involves more than a few people.
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Originally Posted by beng1
My personal program is if I run across any old bikes for free, I fix them up myself and give them to the first person I run into that wants a bike no strings attached.
The problem here is that the first to respond is grabbing the free bike simply because they can, depriving the next person in line that really needs it.

Same is said during disasters, when prices for gallon bottled water remains the same retail price at Sam's Club, but you have hoarders who are able to afford it, buying it all up, loading it into their Teslas, bringing it into their undamaged home that still has all water and electrical utilities.

When you advertise a good straight bike for sale, low enough so that it's almost free, the Tesla families actually think about the price for a bit and decide if it'll be money well spent. They will see that they don't need the Bicycle Shaped Object for $25, they'll forgive it, leaving it still available for they owner that will thank and love it.

Exactly why thrift stores sell everything they got for free from said Tesla families.
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Nobody has to worry about me giving anything to the wealthy or powerful or any collectors or investors, I have zero use for any of them and can spot them a hundred-miles away.
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