How much does your local bikeshop charge to put bike together from parts?
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How much does your local bikeshop charge to put bike together from parts?
I wanted to build a bike myself and bought the frame, wheels and the group set. Basically I have all the parts and it's taking me a while to build it up since it's my first time. I kind of need the bike to be in ridable condition quick and am thinking about if I should just bring the parts into a shop. How much would your local shop charge to do a job like this?
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Which parts are giving you the most difficulty setting up? For the most part, the derailleurs, stem, and handlebars are a 5 min operation maximum each. The crank is usually no problem, so long as you have the correct tool for the bottom bracket. Housings and cables are the most aggravating part of the process, but after everything is put together, it's mostly down to the fine tuning, which we can help with if you tell us whats giving you the issues.If you need to take it to a shop, I'd be expecting over $100 for the build.
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$150
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Your guess is as good as mine. But, if I had a bare frame & all new parts ........... I could get that done very easily in 1/2 day or, 4 hours. I could probably do it in 2 hours.
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It takes me most of a day but I'm working on my own bike and am not "on the clock". I'm a lot more painstaking than someone working on a bike that's not theirs. Then too, this would be just an assembly job with no need to overhaul the hubs and headset, etc.
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Is is not what they charge it is also who is doing the work. Some pimpled face 15 or 16 year old who has no experence except OJT by another pimple face kid. That is not who I want build my bike. Yes I am prejudice against youth unless they have some formal training, and show some degree comitted to the job they are being paid to do.
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Labor varies significantly by shops. Also, how do you define "complete" parts? Will the shop be supplying loose ends like cables, handlebar tape, headset spacers, etc?
Perhaps the more important issue is sizing while building. If you build it, you can place the brake hoods where you want before the bars get taped, figure out stem height before cutting steerer, etc.
I agree with you, except for one difference: A pimple-faced 16 year old with the right tools can be better than a 45-year old engineer with the wrong/no tools and first time attempt.
Perhaps the more important issue is sizing while building. If you build it, you can place the brake hoods where you want before the bars get taped, figure out stem height before cutting steerer, etc.
Is is not what they charge it is also who is doing the work. Some pimpled face 15 or 16 year old who has no experence except OJT by another pimple face kid. That is not who I want build my bike. Yes I am prejudice against youth unless they have some formal training, and show some degree comitted to the job they are being paid to do.
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Since you are not going to ship it out here to be assembled , my local costs really are not applicable.
get the cost quote from the shop that will be doing the job.
get the cost quote from the shop that will be doing the job.
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Our flat rate amounts are a starting point for our estimates. Sometimes the actual cost is less, sometimes more. Until we see the situation in front of us we are only guessing at any number of multiple choice possibilities. (can't count on the number of times that we find out the provided parts are the wrong spec). (In my cynical moments I wish I could say "if everything is right and fits I'll charge X amount but if not then I get 2X).
A related example is when we are asked about assembling a boxed and shipped bike. The customer usually doesn't initially volunteer the additional accessories like fenders, lighting systems or that they just got back from a 3000 mile tour and the bike has many worn out parts. When we say our usual assembly is X amount they won't want to hear that it's actually going to be 2X given what's really delivered to the shop by FedEx.
So take the bike in a bag down to the LBS and show them everything. Only then will you have a best idea of the assembly cost. Andy.
A related example is when we are asked about assembling a boxed and shipped bike. The customer usually doesn't initially volunteer the additional accessories like fenders, lighting systems or that they just got back from a 3000 mile tour and the bike has many worn out parts. When we say our usual assembly is X amount they won't want to hear that it's actually going to be 2X given what's really delivered to the shop by FedEx.
So take the bike in a bag down to the LBS and show them everything. Only then will you have a best idea of the assembly cost. Andy.
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I forgot to add that most shops don't include wheel building in their version of a bike assembly. Andy.
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I agree with these last few posts - the local shop needs to quote the price, but still, if I had to guess a range I'd say $150 - 300.
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+1 Your post does not make much sense to me. Having not done a complete build before is irrelevant, as there is not a single thing on a new build that is different than replacing those same parts, except that it's easier. The first parts to go together are the bottom bracket and headset/fork (unless the frame came with a fork). Those are also the ones that must be done correctly and may require specialized tools. Once that is complete the hardest part is not "building" (assembly/bolt-on) but rather correct adjustment of the parts. If you don't have experience doing all the adjustments then building a bike was not the best decision.
To others reading this considering building a bike up from scratch: If you want the "satisfaction" of doing so I can tell you that it will rarely match the frustration, and as noted above, there's nothing it will teach you beyond just working on your existing bike or a new one. If you need to do a build because of specific frame needs, or because you have specific, non-group component needs, then have at it. My advice for most people is to find a bike that is the closest to your needs and then swap out what you want to change, resell the replace parts. You will be far, far ahead in time and money.
To others reading this considering building a bike up from scratch: If you want the "satisfaction" of doing so I can tell you that it will rarely match the frustration, and as noted above, there's nothing it will teach you beyond just working on your existing bike or a new one. If you need to do a build because of specific frame needs, or because you have specific, non-group component needs, then have at it. My advice for most people is to find a bike that is the closest to your needs and then swap out what you want to change, resell the replace parts. You will be far, far ahead in time and money.
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Figure on at least three hours of labor. Maybe more if you've already begun the job.
Is there a shop you deal with on a regular basis? Having the work done by a shop you have a relationship with is probably a good idea that will pay off even if it costs a bit more.
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I wasn't trying to be snarky. It honestly is more difficult to pick up a partially done job and sort out what's been done so far and how well it's been done and whether the pile of parts is compatible, and so forth. So I'd allow extra time for a mechanic to wrap his head around the project and even redo the already-done work. Sometimes it really is necessary to redo in order to be sure of correctness.
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Build from frame up, with loose components supplied by customer: $125
Build from frame up, with frameset and loose components purchased through shop: free
Build boxed bike, shipped or online purchase: $75
Build from frame up, with frameset and loose components purchased through shop: free
Build boxed bike, shipped or online purchase: $75
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LOL. Yeah. Those signs.
I wasn't trying to be snarky. It honestly is more difficult to pick up a partially done job and sort out what's been done so far and how well it's been done and whether the pile of parts is compatible, and so forth. So I'd allow extra time for a mechanic to wrap his head around the project and even redo the already-done work. Sometimes it really is necessary to redo in order to be sure of correctness.
I wasn't trying to be snarky. It honestly is more difficult to pick up a partially done job and sort out what's been done so far and how well it's been done and whether the pile of parts is compatible, and so forth. So I'd allow extra time for a mechanic to wrap his head around the project and even redo the already-done work. Sometimes it really is necessary to redo in order to be sure of correctness.
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The problem with hiring people be they 15, or 30 is getting people willing to work for a check, not just wanting to get a check. Not spening their day on their cell phone, posting to facebook, or texting.
I was in a bike shop recently where they had a wonderful selection of Diadora shoes, I was waiting to talk to the owner about order some od ball parts. This pimped face who work there is doing nothing. I hand him a shoe I took of the display I was interested in, asking do you have a 45 I can try on? What is the price because there was no price on any of the shoes on display.
Finally 15 minutes later I talked to the owner, and he can not help with special order, as he need a minimum to place my order. I get in the car drive away think about the kids and the shoe I handed him with two questions.
Wondering if he still had the shoe in his hand, apprently he forgot me & my questions. Will never go back to the "LBS" to buy anything.
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To others reading this considering building a bike up from scratch: If you want the "satisfaction" of doing so I can tell you that it will rarely match the frustration, and as noted above, there's nothing it will teach you beyond just working on your existing bike or a new one.
The fact that I can get the cable housing cut to the exact length and routing I want is a big plus. I rarely see a stock bike where the cable are not way too long.
Also I can make minor adjustments to the brake/shifter lever positions and handlebars before taping the bars it up.
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The problem with hiring people be they 15, or 30 is getting people willing to work for a check, not just wanting to get a check. Not spening their day on their cell phone, posting to facebook, or texting.
I was in a bike shop recently where they had a wonderful selection of Diadora shoes, I was waiting to talk to the owner about order some od ball parts. This pimped face who work there is doing nothing. I hand him a shoe I took of the display I was interested in, asking do you have a 45 I can try on? What is the price because there was no price on any of the shoes on display.
Finally 15 minutes later I talked to the owner, and he can not help with special order, as he need a minimum to place my order. I get in the car drive away think about the kids and the shoe I handed him with two questions.
Wondering if he still had the shoe in his hand, apprently he forgot me & my questions. Will never go back to the "LBS" to buy anything.
I was in a bike shop recently where they had a wonderful selection of Diadora shoes, I was waiting to talk to the owner about order some od ball parts. This pimped face who work there is doing nothing. I hand him a shoe I took of the display I was interested in, asking do you have a 45 I can try on? What is the price because there was no price on any of the shoes on display.
Finally 15 minutes later I talked to the owner, and he can not help with special order, as he need a minimum to place my order. I get in the car drive away think about the kids and the shoe I handed him with two questions.
Wondering if he still had the shoe in his hand, apprently he forgot me & my questions. Will never go back to the "LBS" to buy anything.
I fully believe that the problem with workers early in their paycheck worlds is much the same as with school students. The feedback loop and lead by example is often lacking at home and this lacking is reinforced by both entertainment and social media. But this is a topic for another forum. Andy.
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Sounds like a poorly organized shop, or a shop with a really bad personal scheduling on the day you were there. As a former owner I couldn't expect my part timers to know the subtle differences between less commonly dealt with products, like shoes. But I did expect them to be able to find prices and back stock. why? Because they were part of the stocking and pricing process at times. They knew that each item had a home and a price label.
I fully believe that the problem with workers early in their paycheck worlds is much the same as with school students. The feedback loop and lead by example is often lacking at home and this lacking is reinforced by both entertainment and social media. But this is a topic for another forum. Andy.
I fully believe that the problem with workers early in their paycheck worlds is much the same as with school students. The feedback loop and lead by example is often lacking at home and this lacking is reinforced by both entertainment and social media. But this is a topic for another forum. Andy.
My mothers cousin who was the drug stores owner said part of the money customers spent is profit, and my relative said that is how you get paid from profits.
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I'm not sure I agree.
The fact that I can get the cable housing cut to the exact length and routing I want is a big plus. I rarely see a stock bike where the cable are not way too long.
Also I can make minor adjustments to the brake/shifter lever positions and handlebars before taping the bars it up.
The fact that I can get the cable housing cut to the exact length and routing I want is a big plus. I rarely see a stock bike where the cable are not way too long.
Also I can make minor adjustments to the brake/shifter lever positions and handlebars before taping the bars it up.
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I know those are just examples, but neither argues for a scratch build, as both are easily done on a stock bike without incurring the expense and inconvenience of a build. I ordered a stock bike and then changed the bars, stem. saddle and pedals, then sold the swapped out parts. Result was a customized stock bike with low time and money invested.
In the bigger picture it may help to look at bike mechanics as a hobby that is distinct from the sport of riding. Then the interplay between hobby and sport can multiply the enjoyment of each. The first build is intimidating, but a world of fun opens up after just a little bit of experience.
Is there money to be saved? Probably not in a one-off build. But there are savings to be had here and there once you reach a certain point. I'm pretty sure I saved by doing frame swaps each year during my son's growing years. Less expensive to buy a used frame on eBay than to buy a new complete bike each year. And then most of my bikes are built with closeout parts that I accumulate. Not sure I really save money on those builds. Maybe. Maybe not. Doesn't matter. I have fun building and enjoy what I ride.
All that said, I'm pretty cautious about recommending to others that they build or even do their own maintenance. Wrenching seems to work out best when one finds enjoyment in bike mechanics as an activity in itself.
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I had a frame replaced under warranty. I agreed to pay $80 for the labor to swap parts over. Since the manufacturer only warranteed the frame and not the labor, and that local shop wasn't the mail-order place I'd bought the original, I agreed that was fair. Of course, it was also February and their slack season.