Is this an original Colnago?
12-30-23, 02:08 PM
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Is this an original Colnago?
So I have this Colnago frame. Looks to be about a 1974 as far as I can figure out. It has significant corrosion so it needs a repaint. But are these the original decals? I don't see online photos of another with a clover in the middle of the C on the downtube. And headbadge loofs different. So is this original? Thank you.
12-30-23, 02:55 PM
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Rare are the single color graphics, I have a 1972, same headtube.
I will call the others plausible and maybe near the end for them as the chainstay graphics are two tone.
mine are all black.
led apparently a warriors life.
I like the way they ride
I would buy it and work to get a great color match. Then ride it. Enough of the original finish is intact.
I will call the others plausible and maybe near the end for them as the chainstay graphics are two tone.
mine are all black.
led apparently a warriors life.
I like the way they ride
I would buy it and work to get a great color match. Then ride it. Enough of the original finish is intact.
12-30-23, 03:38 PM
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Needs a repaint.
12-30-23, 03:50 PM
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The bottom bracket and the Spade panto on the frame and forks say its a Colnago , 73'- 74'.
I wouldnt worry about the decals as this frame is almost 50 years old and owners are known to change things up over the decades . My 73 Super has 1983 decals on it , just because They look better .
I wouldnt worry about the decals as this frame is almost 50 years old and owners are known to change things up over the decades . My 73 Super has 1983 decals on it , just because They look better .
12-30-23, 04:01 PM
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12-31-23, 07:25 AM
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I am definitely with the touch up and ride crowd.
Despite the scratches, that paint color is awesome. And the decals look great on it.
Despite the scratches, that paint color is awesome. And the decals look great on it.
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I love the color , not sure if the decals are original or not . If it was my bike , I would seriously consider a repaint given the condition of the existing finish. I have a ‘75 that I got in a patina state . I rode it for a year and then had Franklin Frame restore the paint and decals. It doesn’t ride any better but I like it with nice paint .
Prior to sending it out, after a year of riding as is.
After repaint and a few hundred miles
Prior to sending it out, after a year of riding as is.
After repaint and a few hundred miles
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12-31-23, 08:12 AM
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A fellow club member decades ago had a Super this color and basically the same graphics, on his bike, All Black, no two tone on the chainstays. I Definitely assess the graphics as Original.
‘there is a weirdness. At the top of the lower head lug of some black swiped on the shoreline, like an attempt at lug lining. ?.
‘if you want to ruin a bunch of the resale value later, suffer a bout of paintitis and paint it black.
later today I can post some images of my earlier frame with All black graphics.
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12-31-23, 08:46 AM
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try matching it/
base coat makes a big diff. to the finished shade.
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12-31-23, 10:04 AM
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Yes, I am in agreement with repechage surface prep, spot paint, and maybe then a bit of clear over the whole thing
I'd be looking at HOK 0802 as a starting point with maybe a dab of white to flatten it out a little.
Keep the original graphics.
The great Brian Baylis was a master at "conserving" rare bikes for which no reproduction transfers were available. I was once in his shop and he was working on a white Masi Special that was destined for Eisentraut's wife. he did a beautiful job and yes, preserved the original fade paint and decals.
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I'd be looking at HOK 0802 as a starting point with maybe a dab of white to flatten it out a little.
Keep the original graphics.
The great Brian Baylis was a master at "conserving" rare bikes for which no reproduction transfers were available. I was once in his shop and he was working on a white Masi Special that was destined for Eisentraut's wife. he did a beautiful job and yes, preserved the original fade paint and decals.
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12-31-23, 10:17 AM
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NO, No, No, to a black top tube. Take a scratch-x self degrading rubbing/polishing compound to the fork. A half interested clerk at an automotive paint store should get you to a match. Various paint choices, house of color, Chromabase (was Dupont) others. Many paint stores can even make up a custom rattle can of the mixed color, I would clean the fork and dab on the color mix onto the steerer to confirm. Buy a quart of Prepsol, used to remove any contamination and wax, oil to promote adhesion. A possible strategy would be to talk to a used car manager, they all have a mobile guy or two who touches up cars and knows tricks, has the materials to get you there. Might even come to your house.
A fellow club member decades ago had a Super this color and basically the same graphics, on his bike, All Black, no two tone on the chainstays. I Definitely assess the graphics as Original.
‘there is a weirdness. At the top of the lower head lug of some black swiped on the shoreline, like an attempt at lug lining. ?.
‘if you want to ruin a bunch of the resale value later, suffer a bout of paintitis and paint it black.
later today I can post some images of my earlier frame with All black graphics.
A fellow club member decades ago had a Super this color and basically the same graphics, on his bike, All Black, no two tone on the chainstays. I Definitely assess the graphics as Original.
‘there is a weirdness. At the top of the lower head lug of some black swiped on the shoreline, like an attempt at lug lining. ?.
‘if you want to ruin a bunch of the resale value later, suffer a bout of paintitis and paint it black.
later today I can post some images of my earlier frame with All black graphics.
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12-31-23, 10:19 AM
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Well, you have to pick and choose your battles. I am concurrently working on a vintage Cannondale, Nishiki, Vitus, and carbon Trek also. There is only so much time in the day and stripping and prepping is a laborious process. Especially paint removal. Current modern-day strippers are largely underperformers.
I urge you to not ruin it.
12-31-23, 11:19 AM
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What I am saying is that it at least is worth taking a look at.
12-31-23, 12:55 PM
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If you are passing it along , maybe let the next person decide what to do . If you are not riding it and it is stored indoors, I don’t see it getting worse. I rode mine many miles as it was and it pretty much held up just fine until I was ready for the respray. I just kept it clean and dry.
12-31-23, 01:10 PM
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the cost of a spray can is noticeable, but not so outrageous as to not purchase and assess at home.
as an example, paint the same color over, white, grey primer and red oxide and there will be different results.
Ferrari restorers have been known to prime the Ferrari red with a pink primer surfacer to match the original as seen on the F40.
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Well, you have to pick and choose your battles. I am concurrently working on a vintage Cannondale, Nishiki, Vitus, and carbon Trek also. There is only so much time in the day and stripping and prepping is a laborious process. Especially paint removal. Current modern-day strippers are largely underperformers.
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12-31-23, 02:13 PM
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Have zero issues with brand Klean Strip, the gold can 'Premium' stripper. Lather the surface in sections, plastic wrap and don't let it dry. Move to another section and repeat. 15 minutes later, remove plastic wrap, scrape off and wire brushes. Work over a plastic sheet and its not messy.
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don’t paint it or do anything if it doesn’t fit and you are going to pass it on. Don’t create a headache for the new owner. Let them decide what to do without having to undo what you did.
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Looks reasonably similar to mine. They might be reproductions, but they would be early and pay of the history.
Err on the side of leaving it alone if you don't plan on keeping it for the long term.
Err on the side of leaving it alone if you don't plan on keeping it for the long term.
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You will find it difficult finding an off the shelf match for Molteni Orange. I have tried several different RAL colors, mixing different shades, but no luck so far.
I chose to polish what I have, and put a couple coats of Collinite Fleet wax on it, and enjoy the battle scars
I chose to polish what I have, and put a couple coats of Collinite Fleet wax on it, and enjoy the battle scars
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