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Old 03-20-22, 12:24 PM
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Golden Arrow downtube shifters - Lube or Dry?

I've disassembled and thoroughly cleaned some GA downtube shifters. The crud I've cleaned out certainly appears to be old, dried-out grease or oil.

However, as far as re-lubricating them, I see about 50/50 opinions of light lube vs. dry, and I'm not sure which to believe.

...and, if lubed, do I use a dot of oil, or a thin film of grease?
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Grease is the word.

I use a very thin amount.

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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
Grease is the word.

I use a very thin amount.
What he said.

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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
Grease is the word.

I use a very thin amount.
Is this true for all downtube shifters? And what parts do you grease? I have a set of Huret shifters that I'm about to reassemble, I'm just wondering if they'd be any different.
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Originally Posted by Econops
And what parts do you grease?
I usually put a bit of grease on the boss before installing the shifters. My Campy indexed shifters also get some grease on the notched insert.
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Originally Posted by Econops
what parts do you grease?
I fully disassemble, clean with WD-40, dry everything, and grease all the parts that touch each other. On occasion, newly overhauled shifters will slip during use, so I will disassemble and wipe/dab the washers with a paper towel and then reassemble.
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Thanks, that's good to know.
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Golden Arrow downtube shifters - Lube or Dry?

Depends on age and condition.
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Originally Posted by Econops
Is this true for all downtube shifters? And what parts do you grease? I have a set of Huret shifters that I'm about to reassemble, I'm just wondering if they'd be any different.
There are some exceptions. For instance, in the 1980s, Campagnolo redesigned the Record friction levers with washers/spacers on each side of the lever made from some type of plastic (Nylon? Teflon?). The oil in the grease can damage the plastic over the long term and in the short term make them too slippery, so that you can't get enough friction via D-ring tightening, to have the lever hold its position. Basically, I never apply grease to any shift lever parts made from plastic or the portions of metal parts that come into contact with plastic.
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T-Mar, thanks for the clarification. The Huret shifters I'm working on have copper/brass washers on either side of the lever. Do you think there would be an issue with using grease on those? I know some oils can cause problems with yellow metals, but I don't know if that matters here.
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I oil up the entire innards of all friction and SIS downtube levers, never had more than a very short-term issue with them slipping after.

I actually never clean anything before loosening the assembly then applying oil from each side and on the central pivot. The residual traces of dirt prevent any sort of slippage that might result (in the very short term) from the fresh oil.

I use basic motor oil in my squeeze bottle, nothing in the way of super friction-reducing miracle lubes having Teflon etc.
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