Anti-ageing Exercise -- HIIT!
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Anti-ageing Exercise -- HIIT!
Here's a new article on how HIIT actually helps to keep your cells young. It's not that I believe the article/studies making these claim; rather I know that HIIT has had this effect on me. The idea that easy riding/running or whatever is beneficial exercise (in absence of HIIT) is just wrong, at least in my case/experience.
https://www.newscientist.com/article...rval-training/
https://www.newscientist.com/article...rval-training/
Mitochondrial activity declines with age, which may aggravate fatigue and reduce the size and ability of muscles to burn excess blood sugar – a risk factor for diabetes. But this decline was halted and even reversed in the older interval-training group. “After three months of interval training, everything converged towards what we saw in young people,” says Nair.
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I believe in interval training, but I really overdid it a couple of years ago and my body went into a panic like mode and I got very sick (my bloodworms to was completely out of norm). Now, I took it down a notch and my body is much happier.
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I knew this rang a bell. Caught my attention reading this Times article.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/w...-possible.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/w...-possible.html
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But that research only compares 2 regimens: HIIT and weights. It doesn't compare HIIT to something like 1 or 2 hours of moderate cardio (e.g. moderate biking).
I'm not saying HIIT isn't effective (I'm sure it is), just wondering how it stacks up to other things.
I'm not saying HIIT isn't effective (I'm sure it is), just wondering how it stacks up to other things.
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I'd choose good bloodwork over good bloodworms.
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Doing just fine with an everything in moderation approach.
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Friel has some citations in "fast over 50" that provide evidence that HIIT is better at maintaining performance than more moderate approaches. Of course, losing top-end speed is not that big a deal for cyclists who are just out to have fun. And he points out that people that are doing moderate exercise are losing fitness at a much slower rate than people that aren't exercising at all. Like most of his books, it's mostly just a pep talk. If you want a training plan, you have to go elsewhere.
I am doing a fairly high intensity approach right now using trainerroad. We'll see how it works out. I think I'm still young enough at 58 to get to a significantly higher level of fitness than where I have gotten over the last couple of years. Although it's definitely tougher now than it was 20 years ago.
I am doing a fairly high intensity approach right now using trainerroad. We'll see how it works out. I think I'm still young enough at 58 to get to a significantly higher level of fitness than where I have gotten over the last couple of years. Although it's definitely tougher now than it was 20 years ago.
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I knew this rang a bell. Caught my attention reading this Times article.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/w...-possible.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/w...-possible.html
My only point, is that if one wants true health, especially that of cardio health, then incorporating HIIT into your w/o regimen is crucial.
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Here is one study that shows a comparison between HIIT and moderate exercise. https://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Articl...oderateEx.html
Regardless of the variation of methods used to report exercise intensities, a consistent pattern appeared with the findings. All of the epidemiology studies that controlled for energy expenditure found greater cardioprotective benefits from the higher aerobic exercise intensities as compared to the moderate aerobic exercise intensities. As a matter of fact, no epidemiological study reported a greater cardioprotective benefit from moderate intensity versus vigorous aerobic exercise. The clinical studies showed very similar results. When energy expenditure was controlled for in the study, the vigorous exercise intensity was more beneficial in altering one or more risk factors to coronary heart disease. Specifically, in relation to the coronary heart disease, the #1 cause of mortality in America, aerobic exercise of a more vigorous type resulted in lower incidence.
There are things that Anaerobic exercise does to your body at a cellular level that just doesn't happen at doing exercise at 50 - 70% of your max HR. That's one reason why no matter how much aerobic cardio exercise one does, it will never increase you anaerobic capacity; however, anaerobic exercise WILL improve your aerobic capacity.
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Started intervals on a stationary bike at the gym 3 weeks ago and I have found my resting heart rate is lower and my recovery time after intervals has decreased.
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Where I live, the hills provide and require some HIIT. Some people cannot do HIIT for health reasons. For me, long moderate exercise is best and far better than nothing. Uh-oh; another hill up ahead!
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I've been doing the same boot camp 3x a week for about 5 years. The format gets switched up every 6 months or so to keep it interesting. Our cardio day is now HIIT. I definitely have more endurance and increased my overall speed. However I also dropped about 20 lbs since that change back in October - so obviously not a single-factor controlled experiment. Probably some of both.
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I'm not much for believing the longevity aspect of this but will certainly vouch for interval training AND hills. Both are vital to training for performance. I love being able to ride a fast section and see improvement. Also helps me drop old ladies and children on the bikepath.
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I've developed an addiction to The Trip, a Les Mills training course. $% minutes hard work, many full on sessions interspaced with recovery (never enough lol) and . . I'm safe from cars, dogs, potholes . . .but not women. They beat me on the road, they beat me in the Gym. And -
I have to resist every one of their advances. In my dreams . .
I have to resist every one of their advances. In my dreams . .
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I personally think it's keeping young has to do with a lot of things coming together: High intensity riding balanced with easy, fueled with healthy diet and lifestyle choices, stress management and plenty of rest. My racing age is 53 and I really don't think I'm old at all. However, my older brother manages diet & stress extremely well, is active but does zero high intensity anything. He actually comes across younger than I am and is aging exceptionally well. So HIIT is probably not everything. But for an average Joe like me, HIIT used in a balanced formula that seems to be working well enough
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There are things that Anaerobic exercise does to your body at a cellular level that just doesn't happen at doing exercise at 50 - 70% of your max HR. That's one reason why no matter how much aerobic cardio exercise one does, it will never increase you anaerobic capacity; however, anaerobic exercise WILL improve your aerobic capacity.
I always thought that a mix of the 2 were best. Aerobic exercise is better for producing endorphins and a feeling of good will I believe.
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Fortunately, everything from stair climbing at work to walking/jogging/biking up the hills around home has given me at least some anaerobic exercise, although I probably need to step up my interval game a bit.
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HIIT didn't help Bob Harper.
Bob Harper goes back to 'square one' on treadmill after heart attack - TODAY.com
Maye his case is a good example of extremes in anything being bad for you.
Bob Harper goes back to 'square one' on treadmill after heart attack - TODAY.com
Maye his case is a good example of extremes in anything being bad for you.
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I'm just saying, from experience (not just all the research) that it does give one a completely different level of health, especially as we age.
However, it's still important for me to be able to do the much longer, steady-state exercise, which, BTW, I've found are much easier done with a well conditioned anaerobic capacity.
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So how does everyone gage where their limits are? It going to be different for everyone I know but just wondering what are some signs to look for as we reach our physical limits?
I think for me it might be total phyical exhaustion after a long ride where I can't do anything for the rest of the day. Haven't reached that point yet so I think I can push a little bit more but I did get close when I first got back into cycling. Had to take a nap for a few hours and my whole body ached for a couple of days after...