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Old 11-30-22, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
How about kitchen talk? The kids got some Shun knives with Damascus blades as a wedding gift. Are those good knives?

I don't know a thing about Japanese knives.

I do know that my SIL told my daughter that she may not use them (he's the cook).
I'm interested in the answer. I've been thinking about replacing my 20-year-old Henkles Classic with something Japanese.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr View Post
I’ve been riding with a retired UP engineer. Do you think he’d be excited over my UP1202 pic?

No. Your Colnago is spoiling the train porn.

EDIT: Oh, wait. He's a bike guy, too. Yeah. He'd probably like it.
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I can’t believe that people on a bike board care more about a singer than a professional bike racer who got run over today.

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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr View Post
I can’t believe that people on a bike board care more about a singer than a professional bike racer who got run over today.

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Terrible what happened with Rebellin.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
How about kitchen talk? The kids got some Shun knives with Damascus blades as a wedding gift. Are those good knives?

I don't know a thing about Japanese knives.

I do know that my SIL told my daughter that she may not use them (he's the cook).
I'm sure they're not bad knives. I haven't looked over them too closely, but they strike me as more along the lines of Japanese Knives lite, in both good and bad. Fans of Japanese knives are particular about a lot of the characteristics: the type of grind, the blade profile, blade thickness, core steel, and the list goes one. Provenance - the region, the smith, the sharpener, etc - is also a thing. You're not going to get all of that at the Shun level of production, but I'm sure that you're going to get decent steel that'll hold a finer edge than the big German brands.
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Yeah, the issue is that when I am doing a "real" ride I can bridge a gap or nail a climb by going from 85-90% of FTP up to maybe 100-110% of FTP for 30s, and I am fine....

The problem on Zwift is that it exaggerates the benefits of drafting, so in order to bridge a gap in the fake world I have to go up to say 120-140% of FTP to bridge a gap...and then once I get on with the group, I struggle to stay with them.

Long story short, it feels like the world of Zwift forces me to burn big matches while in the real world they are small matches or maybe even just little sparks.

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Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
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Annual calendar just arrived. Always great photos.

I guess I should buy some of their stock, so I can get their calendars too! UP 2023 calendars have not arrived yet.
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Jackie is admiring some of mrs datlas’ recent paintings.


Humanity's effort at art cannot match nature.

However, those are legit well-done to my philistine eyes.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr View Post
I’ve been riding with a retired UP engineer. Do you think he’d be excited over my UP1202 pic?
Y'all could get some gravel bikes and ride along the UP graveyard down there:

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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
I'm sure they're not bad knives. I haven't looked over them too closely, but they strike me as more along the lines of Japanese Knives lite, in both good and bad. Fans of Japanese knives are particular about a lot of the characteristics: the type of grind, the blade profile, blade thickness, core steel, and the list goes one. Provenance - the region, the smith, the sharpener, etc - is also a thing. You're not going to get all of that at the Shun level of production, but I'm sure that you're going to get decent steel that'll hold a finer edge than the big German brands.
Are you familiar enough with Japanese knives to recommend a brand?
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It's not quite my most used plane.
Jack plane?

Oh, and one other thing that I'd omitted from the list, but tangential to the plane talk - a Worksharp 3000. I like sharpening kitchen knives on the stones, but don't want to futz as much with plane blades and chisels.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
How about kitchen talk? The kids got some Shun knives with Damascus blades as a wedding gift. Are those good knives?

I don't know a thing about Japanese knives.

I do know that my SIL told my daughter that she may not use them (he's the cook).
They are... much better than Target knives. Wouldn't kick one out of the drawer. Think Bose.
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Are you familiar enough with Japanese knives to recommend a brand?
There's SO much stuff out there - a total rabbit hole. You really need to think about how you use and care for knives. On knife forums, it's common for members to fill out a form when seeking recommendations. I'll copy/pasta...

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KNIFE TYPE
What type of knife are you interested in (e.g., chef’s knife, slicer, boning knife, utility knife, bread knife, paring knife, cleaver)?

Are you right or left handed?

Are you interested in a Western handle (e.g., classic Wusthof handle) or Japanese handle?

What length of knife (blade) are you interested in (in inches or millimeters)?

Do you require a stainless knife? (Yes or no)

What is your absolute maximum budget for your knife?



KNIFE USE
Do you primarily intend to use this knife at home or a professional environment?

What are the main tasks you primarily intend to use the knife for (e.g., slicing vegetables, chopping vegetables, mincing vegetables, slicing meats, cutting down poultry, breaking poultry bones, filleting fish, trimming meats, etc.)? (Please identify as many tasks as you would like.)

What knife, if any, are you replacing?

Do you have a particular grip that you primarily use? (Please click on this LINK for the common types of grips.)

What cutting motions do you primarily use? (Please click on this LINK for types of cutting motions and identify the two or three most common cutting motions, in order of most used to least used.)

What improvements do you want from your current knife? If you are not replacing a knife, please identify as many characteristics identified below in parentheses that you would like this knife to have.)

Better aesthetics (e.g., a certain type of finish; layered/Damascus or other pattern of steel; different handle color/pattern/shape/wood; better scratch resistance; better stain resistance)?

Comfort (e.g., lighter/heavier knife; better handle material; better handle shape; rounded spine/choil of the knife; improved balance)?

Ease of Use (e.g., ability to use the knife right out of the box; smoother rock chopping, push cutting, or slicing motion; less wedging; better food release; less reactivity with food; easier to sharpen)?

Edge Retention (i.e., length of time you want the edge to last without sharpening)?



KNIFE MAINTENANCE
Do you use a bamboo, wood, rubber, or synthetic cutting board? (Yes or no.)

Do you sharpen your own knives? (Yes or no.)

If not, are you interested in learning how to sharpen your knives? (Yes or no.)

Are you interested in purchasing sharpening products for your knives? (Yes or no.)
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Originally Posted by Eric F View Post
I'm interested in the answer. I've been thinking about replacing my 20-year-old Henkles Classic with something Japanese.
Going off-the-shelf, I'd go for the Z-Kramer:

https://www.cutleryandmore.com/zwill...-knife-p133797
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I guess I should buy some of their stock, so I can get their calendars too! UP 2023 calendars have not arrived yet.
I get one because hired gun.
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I cannot wait!

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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
There's SO much stuff out there - a total rabbit hole. You really need to think about how you use and care for knives. On knife forums, it's common for members to fill out a form when seeking recommendations. I'll copy/pasta...

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KNIFE TYPE
What type of knife are you interested in (e.g., chef’s knife, slicer, boning knife, utility knife, bread knife, paring knife, cleaver)?

Are you right or left handed?

Are you interested in a Western handle (e.g., classic Wusthof handle) or Japanese handle?

What length of knife (blade) are you interested in (in inches or millimeters)?

Do you require a stainless knife? (Yes or no)

What is your absolute maximum budget for your knife?



KNIFE USE
Do you primarily intend to use this knife at home or a professional environment?

What are the main tasks you primarily intend to use the knife for (e.g., slicing vegetables, chopping vegetables, mincing vegetables, slicing meats, cutting down poultry, breaking poultry bones, filleting fish, trimming meats, etc.)? (Please identify as many tasks as you would like.)

What knife, if any, are you replacing?

Do you have a particular grip that you primarily use? (Please click on this LINK for the common types of grips.)

What cutting motions do you primarily use? (Please click on this LINK for types of cutting motions and identify the two or three most common cutting motions, in order of most used to least used.)

What improvements do you want from your current knife? If you are not replacing a knife, please identify as many characteristics identified below in parentheses that you would like this knife to have.)

Better aesthetics (e.g., a certain type of finish; layered/Damascus or other pattern of steel; different handle color/pattern/shape/wood; better scratch resistance; better stain resistance)?

Comfort (e.g., lighter/heavier knife; better handle material; better handle shape; rounded spine/choil of the knife; improved balance)?

Ease of Use (e.g., ability to use the knife right out of the box; smoother rock chopping, push cutting, or slicing motion; less wedging; better food release; less reactivity with food; easier to sharpen)?

Edge Retention (i.e., length of time you want the edge to last without sharpening)?



KNIFE MAINTENANCE
Do you use a bamboo, wood, rubber, or synthetic cutting board? (Yes or no.)

Do you sharpen your own knives? (Yes or no.)

If not, are you interested in learning how to sharpen your knives? (Yes or no.)

Are you interested in purchasing sharpening products for your knives? (Yes or no.)
Oh, boy. I'm not sure I'm ready to jump into that pool. I know how this goes...

Knife interest becomes looking at knife porn, and then I buy a knife...but I keep looking at knife porn, and get knife envy. Then, I learn that I there was a better knife that I should have got, so I get that knife, too. 6 months later, I'm $5k into knifes that I won't touch because I don't want to spoil the almost-pristine edges that I spent 6 hours working on the night before, and now I'm thinking about which bikes I'm willing to sell in order to fund some bit of knife paraphernalia.

Speaking of selling stuff...Anyone want to buy a Universal Audio LA-610 Channel Strip with NOS vintage tubes?
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I'm interested in the answer. I've been thinking about replacing my 20-year-old Henkles Classic with something Japanese.
That reminds me - I have to take my knives to be sharpened. At this point they're just metal wedges I shove through food.
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Is this actually a movie??!!
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Originally Posted by genejockey View Post
That reminds me - I have to take my knives to be sharpened. At this point they're just metal wedges I shove through food.
I'm pretty close to that point, too.
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Originally Posted by Eric F View Post
Oh, boy. I'm not sure I'm ready to jump into that pool. I know how this goes...

Knife interest becomes looking at knife porn, and then I buy a knife...but I keep looking at knife porn, and get knife envy. Then, I learn that I there was a better knife that I should have got, so I get that knife, too. 6 months later, I'm $5k into knifes that I won't touch because I don't want to spoil the almost-pristine edges that I spent 6 hours working on the night before, and now I'm thinking about which bikes I'm willing to sell in order to fund some bit of knife paraphernalia.

Speaking of selling stuff...Anyone want to buy a Universal Audio LA-610 Channel Strip with NOS vintage tubes?
Back when I was into making selfbows (bows made from a single piece, or at most 2 pieces of wood), I somehow got on the mailing list of a company that sells woodworker porn. I already had a spokeshave, two drawknives, and a set of flat steel scrapers, which is all most selfbowyers use, but it was fun looking through the catalogs, especially since I didn't have any intention of buying.
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I'm pretty close to that point, too.
You personally, or your knives?
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I was appalled by my HR during exploratory trainer efforts as I've ridding the cold, flu, and strep rollercoaster over the last month. The first couple of of rides, when I thought I was getting better, my HR just shot up to, and parked in, the low-170s, which never happens in real life. The RPE wasn't horrible, though my output was significantly lower than RPE would have lead me to believe. Yesterday, my two short rides were back to the realm of normal, though not terribly fit. I'll take that as a win, though.
Real athletes detrain just for the challenge of coming back.
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Real athletes detrain just for the challenge of coming back.
Ha! I don't have any goals for the off-season, but if I can hit the roads in the spring at ~175lbs or so and not feeling horribly unfit, I'll be fine with it.
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